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Hajji Giray I said:
Why is the country TilApia but the adjective is always TilIpian? Everyone writes that and it confuses me :wacko:

The adjective is actually TilApian, what you're seeing is a tilypo by people in too big a horry to chuck their ficts.

Those responsible have been sacked.
 

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von Streusser said:
;)

That's a fairly generous allocation for all other departments there. We'll have to look at slashing that during the next legislative session we feel like holding. :D
I'm really wondering about the Tilapian economy. They fight a rebellion on New Bengal, they buy new ships and planes and they weren't the richest part of old Eutopia. Are they heavily sponsored by the Spanish?
 

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I'm really wondering about the Tilapian economy. They fight a rebellion on New Bengal, they buy new ships and planes and they weren't the richest part of old Eutopia. Are they heavily sponsored by the Spanish?
Follow the money! Is that where the missing $10 billion from the Eutopia 2 defense budget went? Or are the art works fakes and the queen doesn't know it, or is in on the scam and is doing it to make things appear better than they are? That is why I posted the tongue-in-cheek OOC comment about their budget. One might note that if GMs runs things, they usually go well, but if a PC does there are all sorts of roadblocks and problems, but if one did one would be back in trouble with the GMs, so I won't. ;)
 

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HJ Tulp said:
I'm really wondering about the Tilapian economy. They fight a rebellion on New Bengal, they buy new ships and planes and they weren't the richest part of old Eutopia. Are they heavily sponsored by the Spanish?

There is some sponsoring from the Spanish, particularly on the military hardware. The F-100s aren't the cheapest things in the world, though a couple dozen F-4 Phantoms *are*. 1960's relics, really, go for under 10 million. The art comes from the royal collection, not the Tilapian economy. The royals have been collecting art for generation upon generation, very little expense in recent times. In fact, the 2 frigates are Tilapia's only major expenditure in over a term - with a little subsidy, it's fully possible. Also, if you space out payments over several terms, it comes to something like $200 million per term for the ships, which is under $100 million per year, even with interest. Not a problem.

The military conflict is expensive, but certainly not beyond the pale, considering the scale. So, as far as really expensive stuff goes, they have 2 ships in the last...what, 4 or 5 terms? Eutopia has bought a *lot* more, and has ZERO international buddies. ;)

As for ub's comment - a few responses leap to mind: 1) what good is a foil if it's stumbling around mired in its own incompetence? 2) the GMs never take actions that, frankly, mystify ourselves...I can't say the same for all our players ;). Mostly though, I think it goes to game balance. If we're going to have a focus on our little island, we need competent foils. Eutopia could always rise to the challenge, if she's feeling up to it, rather than venting in the OOC.

EDIT: That's also assuming that you consider an armed insurrection to be "going well"!! I hardly consider that the result of masterful domestic policy...
 
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Hajji Giray I said:
salisbury_cat_evil.jpg

That cat looks suspiciously like mine...Hmmmm...
 

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unclebryan said:
Follow the money! Is that where the missing $10 billion from the Eutopia 2 defense budget went? Or are the art works fakes and the queen doesn't know it, or is in on the scam and is doing it to make things appear better than they are? That is why I posted the tongue-in-cheek OOC comment about their budget. One might note that if GMs runs things, they usually go well, but if a PC does there are all sorts of roadblocks and problems, but if one did one would be back in trouble with the GMs, so I won't. ;)

Well, if you prefer, we could always take out all the roadblocks and problems, thus transforming Eutopia into a happy-shiny hand-holding country where nothing ever goes wrong and everyone loves every public figure. Statues of Loic could be raised in the streets, the UK would hand over Bermuda, Tilapia and St. Esprit would volunteer to re-unify, and everything would be, in a word, hunky-dory.

But that would be so boring I'd put my own head through the monitor.

The essence of any RPG is conflict, both from within and without. Otherwise no one would play, and the game quickly be discontinued.
 

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I agree fully with von Streusser's statements above, and would just add the following - if anyone has a problem with the way the game is being run, bring it up with the GM team. OCC is not the place for it.
 

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My comment that provoked vS and Voshkod reactions was intended to be self-nullifying, hence the "I won't" and the smilie. As such, I was not requesting a response, but I don't object to the exercise of free speech to address it. vS's first point was humorous and effective, so I enjoyed reading that, as one might enjoy reading OOC banter. However, given our past misunderstandings I would have better if I had resisted the temptation, and not posted the last sentence of my comment. I did not intend it to be a criticism of the GMs or something that would take any of their time, beyond the reading of it. Therefore, I apologize for taking them away from their normal activities.
 

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JP: You might want to formally announce when voting will end on the Leary-Lundgren Amendment. As of know, unless I missed it, you have no end to the voting process posted.

It looks like the L-L Amendment will pass. MRP backbenchers favor it. The PoL and ELP have all voted for it and endorsed it in caucus with no objections. We just need the mods to confirm how those crazy backbenchers are voting.

EDIT: Oh, I think my office should be made Private. Could one of the mods move me over to the Private subforum?
 

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I see that VS's Internet connection has cut out, I've been having the same problems as well over the past weeks. Hope it sorts itself out.
 

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I blame it on Hurricane Wilma. She's wreaking havoc on Ohio and Great Britain. ;)

On another note, the first issue of the Paradox Tribune is out, and I encourage you all to read it in my absence. Most importantly, get everyone you know who isn't in the game already to read page 10. :cool:

EDIT: I particularly want you all to notice how Blade! managed to mess up the name of the Eutopia game WHILE THE RIGHT NAME WAS RIGHT NEXT TO IT ON THE PAGE!
 
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Well if the LL budget get's passed instead of the Sykes budget I don't think the coalition will exist for much longer...
 

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von Streusser said:
EDIT: I particularly want you all to notice how Blade! managed to mess up the name of the Eutopia game WHILE THE RIGHT NAME WAS RIGHT NEXT TO IT ON THE PAGE! Send him a PM about it, every one of you.

And he calls himself the Inventor of the Game? :mad:

I'll give him a piece of my mind.
 

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What are you talking about?

It looks right to me.
 

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I belive it is Eutopia insead of EUtopia?
 

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Blade!: Eutopia 4: The Balance of Power
Everyone else in the world: Eutopia 4: The Politics of Power

It's right there on the page, counsellor.

Back to class now.
 

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HJ Tulp said:
Well if the LL budget get's passed instead of the Sykes budget I don't think the coalition will exist for much longer...
you were told hold down the defense increase, you choose to focus too much on that :p
 

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Heeheehee!

Coalitions don't last long in Eutopia. :D
 

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jacob-Lundgren said:
you were told hold down the defense increase, you choose to focus too much on that :p
Compromises.....the Sykes amendement is reasonable.