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Josephus I said:
Something is unclear. It says the president can veto any bill, right? Is the GA election of a speaker/VP considered a Bill? Can the president veto that?

The selection of a Speaker (just like the production of floor rules) is an internal GA matter, over which the executive has no oversight.

Or at least, that's what the High Court would probably say, if you asked them. ;)
 

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Since Per. Cain , is now president , and he never named a deputy speaker , who will handle matters in the GA now. Seems we have a problem on our hands.

Sykes, just like last time we did this. He was never replaced as Deputy Speaker, so he retains the position.
 

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Guys, I'll be very limited on the internet for atleast the week as my comp totally broke down. Sorry :eek:o
 

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Folks, if you haven't already, please read this post.

Thank you.
 

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The_Hawk said:
Folks, if you haven't already, please read this post.

Thank you.


Finally make it to the office of the President :(

It was a fun ride everyone. For those who have been here since the start I have enjoyed the many years of fun you have provided. For everyone new, thanks for keeping it alive as long as you have.

Sigh, I guess my time online will be less now. It has been a ride.
 

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It's gone. :(

Ah, well. I'll have to save as much as I can of Gonzov's memory.
 

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Estonianzulu said:
Finally make it to the office of the President :(

Well, today was the last day of the term anyway, so even if it hadn't been time to close up shop... ;)
 

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Well, it was fun for me when I had the chance to put the effort in. The bottom line: the game was good fun and I thank the GMs for their effort. I'm only sad school kept me from doing more.
 

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Before this disappears, cananyone tell me how this all started, how all the mods came up with and implemented the idea? Perhaps if we salvage at least that much, we could one day resurrect the game on another forum?
 

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it can be resurrected, as I beleive that one of the other RPGS on this forum died and then was brought back to life again and is still running.
 

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"So long and thanks for all the fish."

Erc says" "Aw shame ... was going to come back too."

I was thinking of making a "movie" using the TheMoviesGame using the story line of Cornelius Dank, etc.

Is there a convenient thread in the OT forum I should follow, or one for Eutopia reminiscing?

What was Paradox's motivation for supporting this, if there is any beyond keeping its forum participants involved?

I kind of thought that you would have some catcysmic event instead of just flipping a switch, such as:
  1. Chinese nuke us for putting a duty on their goods
  2. Eutopia submerges like Atlantis, due to an earthquake
  3. US wants the oil and invades
  4. Loic returns and wins election as last elected President

Since we are shutting down, can you provide a link to the super secret GM discussion threads, so we can see what went on behind the scenes?

Thanks particularly to all who were active as players and GMs! vS, good luck with the last year of law school. J-L send me your resume in September and I will get you an interview with a big four firm.

Woody retires undefeated as Eutopian Chess Champion!
 
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Real shame to see such a wonderful country submerged beneath the waves--and now I feel guilty for being one of the not-players in recent months (and because I was seriously thinking of coming back in a few weeks).

*P.G. Talbott's health had been suffering for many years, beginning with his depression soon after his depression in Term IX (not with that assassination attempt, as he will always maintain), that barroom brawl with Gonzov that left him walking with a cane for a long while, and a subsequent mild stroke that affected his good leg, leaving him in a wheelchair.

Talbott, now faced with the specter of mortality, felt he should leave behind a better legacy of himself than one failed Presidency--and planned a return to politics. However, just three weeks before he was to return, Talbott suffered a massive stroke and died.

He was severely pissed that he died before John O'Floinn.

Talbott was disappointed, he had said to interviewers in his final years, with the image that the public now has of him--but

"They are not the arbiter of my actions. History will judge what I have done. History, in the end, will know that I saved this country. They may judge the means however they will, but they cannot deny the fact.

History Will Judge. History Will Redeem Me.

Talbott, 64, divided his estate between his son and the family of the executed fisherman. His extensive papers were given over to the care of his son, with explicit orders that they be released after John O'Floinn and Jon Glasser had passed.

It was released, eventually, that Talbott had been working for the CIA for 24 years--but the final item, the one that Talbott wanted released more than any other, the one that would redeem him--was redacted indefinitely.
*
 

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Erc, I'm not even going to get into how funny that was. :D

Anyway, I was looking at the OT forum, thinking we would, by some natural, logical extension, all wind up there in some kind of former Eutopians club. However, they seem to be, for one reason or another, cracking down on formation of cliques. Of course, what with Blade! being essentially the godfather of Eutopia, that may or may not apply to us. In any case, for the moment, in case Eutopia should disappear before we can get our bearings, let me introduce to you, The Eutopian Expatriate Club.
 
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Answers to a variety of statements:

Aussieboy: your version of the Oceanus incident was, in fact, about 65% incorrect. But a good try, nonetheless. ;) The submarine came late, and the Tilapians did not open fire or capture the crew, though it was supposed to look like that happened. New Bengali insurgents actually killed the Tilapians and captured the crew. There are countless more secrets I know that I'd hate to die with, including some of heagarty's old riddles...anything someone wants to know?

Cestius, this shouldn't have been so unexpected. I've been saying for half the term that if we don't get activity up, things would shut down. Activity didn't go up.

ub: if you really want, Hawk and I had a good cataclysm event, but it may involve a robot invasion. And a volcano. :D I don't know why Paradox ever supported these, beyond the same reasons they support the OT Forum...to keep it organized somewhere. There were also some important people involved in the genesis of this project, like Havard I believe. As for the super-secret mod discussion threads...I'm afraid I could link you, but you wouldn't be able to see it. That requires Admin approval, and I'm probably about to lose my keys anyway, since this is going down. ;)
 

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Erc, would that last item be The WET Papers?
 

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von Streusser said:
Erc, would that last item be The WET Papers?

What papers? *whistles innocently* ;) :p