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Yes, I think it's a universal agreement that Cas is the greatest EU2 miser ever. Austria probably funded Spain more then Spain to Austria, he was cheap with his Danish vassal and when he had less inflation then me and only 150 less in wealth per month in this game, I sent him thousands and thousands to stop his whining ... only to be thanked by a dow and comment that I dont support him enough :rofl: .
,You guys love me
.I admit that I do not like to give a lot of money to ppl, because when I used to do I was always betrayed. So I am a bit more conservative now. This somewhat changed in this EGA when I heavily financed Austria (in other word, I gave more money to Austria than France gave to me) and even this way KJ complained.
K'shar said:
Yeah, I remeber those 3k. You paid 3k to KJ to peace my WE 14 Spain when I fought your war and you peace separately (I know it wasnt your fault but it was what happened) and let me alone against Austria.
jorian said:good, I try sweden
Please PM me when, and what time do you have a session, and what is it in CET time, thanks
Be Welcomed.
IIRC, 14 GMT = 15 CET.
Actually 16 CEST, it is summertime now.Casluerj said:Be Welcomed.
IIRC, 14 GMT = 15 CET.
Casluerj said:
If you think it's wrong why did you ask money from us then? Only to betray us later! U hate that right? Unbeliveable that you wrote this!
Casluerj said:
Austria was heavily financed?
Casluerj said:
So, in fact, you wanna tell me that France practically financed his arch enemy through his so called ally?
Or your funding happened much earlier? KJ - you are incompetent. :rofl: Caslu sent you one fleet worth of fortune and u kept loosing against France which was financing upkeep of both armies it seems.
Casluerj said:
bad, bad KJ
edit; but iirc he complained about lack of financial support? or have I confused something?
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I think Caslu is the first player who I've complained so much about lack of funding . I may have been unsupported adequately in regards to finances in the past, but never on such a scale . But what also makes Cas special is that he doesn't admit to it either .
Throughout the entire game, you have indeed probably sent me above 8kD, Cas. However, 4kD of that was for Bavaria, and 2500D was for getting you Bavaria again, and these both came relatively late in the game, when money was no longer an object for you. Back in the early 1500s, I sent more money to you than you sent to me. If we don't count the money you sent to pay me back, or the money that was used in business transactions, you probably sent me about 3k total for the entire game. That's not an insult, it's just the truth .
That's give or take a few hundred. There's really no way I could've kept track of all those 100D gifts you've sent. It'd be a lot easier to be sure on it if you'd sent maybe 500D at a time once in a while(not talking about business transactions here, you at least paid for those using spam gifts ussually).
I wasn't counting money you've sent so far during this war. Decent funding was part of the deal for those provs though. So far Spain seems to have honored those terms.
But yeah, if funding for Austria in this game is good, then LOL.
. I may have been unsupported adequately in regards to finances in the past, but never on such a scale . But what also makes Cas special is that he doesn't admit to it either . Throughout the entire game, you have indeed probably sent me above 8kD, Cas. However, 4kD of that was for Bavaria, and 2500D was for getting you Bavaria again, and these both came relatively late in the game, when money was no longer an object for you. Back in the early 1500s, I sent more money to you than you sent to me
. If we don't count the money you sent to pay me back, or the money that was used in business transactions, you probably sent me about 3k total for the entire game. That's not an insult, it's just the truth . That's give or take a few hundred. There's really no way I could've kept track of all those 100D gifts you've sent. It'd be a lot easier to be sure on it if you'd sent maybe 500D at a time once in a while(not talking about business transactions here, you at least paid for those using spam gifts ussually).
I wasn't counting money you've sent so far during this war. Decent funding was part of the deal for those provs though. So far Spain seems to have honored those terms
. But yeah, if funding for Austria in this game is good, then LOL
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K'shar said:He doesn't admit recieving funding either
Don't be so harsh K'shar. He admitted treachery at least. I thought he would say it was misunderstanding. One small step at the time is the best way to go.
King John said:I think Caslu is the first player who I've complained so much about lack of funding
Throughout the entire game, you have indeed probably sent me above 8kD, Cas. However, 4kD of that was for Bavaria, and 2500D was for getting you Bavaria again, and these both came relatively late in the game, when money was no longer an object for you. Back in the early 1500s, I sent more money to you than you sent to me
That's give or take a few hundred. There's really no way I could've kept track of all those 100D gifts you've sent. It'd be a lot easier to be sure on it if you'd sent maybe 500D at a time once in a while(not talking about business transactions here, you at least paid for those using spam gifts ussually).
I wasn't counting money you've sent so far during this war. Decent funding was part of the deal for those provs though. So far Spain seems to have honored those terms
But yeah, if funding for Austria in this game is good, then LOL
KJ, only in this war I've sent you more than 5kD, mate plus what I gave to OE to peace you!!!! You simply cant admit... And all the money you sent to me it was paid back with interest. In early game I probably sent 4-5KD to Austria plus helping him two times against OE and 3 times against France plus more 4k to Bavaria. And even this way he complained... Why do you think Spain has so few manus? Look at the other nations I've played, I love manus, but I couldnt even buy some for me! Even this way I sent a good (not large) ammount of money to Austria.
France only gave me 4kD plus few gifts (according to K'shar 8kDin total), this is less than what Spain (poorer than France) has sent to Austria. And K'shar insist telling me that I was heavily financied.
Nabukodonosor said:
With you Nab, I will stop arguing. You are bring things too personal to me and I dont want to lose the friend.
EDIT: Ah KJ, I bought your Governors too.
Casluerj said:
People usually do that when their arguments crumble
Casluerj said:
Nothing personal mate - be sure of that. Though, I'll be more then carefull when dealing with u in the future but that doesn't mean I think something bad about you. It's just that your playing style is so different from mine that we can't cooperate. I won't describe my perception of your playing style now, but I can tell u about mine; I choose allies carefully and then I count on them. With you this is fooly.
jorian said:please someone links the save that I can download it, thanks.
Look at my sig for a link for the stats page and search for the last session.
thanks, now I have to test it with someone if I have the correct ver. and suchCasluerj said:
EDIT: i have the save, it seems Sweden is the last of the 10
Well, as this game is nearly at its end, I just hope it can clam on that 10th place
-I hereby ask for a WP of Austria (would like to get buda/pest/szeged, read my AAR why, but of course not needed, has no other meaning, just couse of RP)
-I hope for better relations with Russia
-I would like to change cores, how many can I claim/'declaim' ?
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Casluerj said:
umm... this must have happened before or after my reign as sultan. I think before, as after, the OE was not a threat to Austria...
Casluerj said:
funny, i always thought it had something to do with some certain bankruptcy events.
Fnuco said:
Last session. OE attacked Austria joining French side and later WPed for gold.
Fnuco said:
After 1621 no more bankrupty events, it is when ppl build manus as Spain... I could build 10 no more. Then some were burned in Portuguese-Spanish war.
Check your PM box.
Your avoiding a convenient fact ... I sent all this money (and its not a claim .. 8k is the bottom figure) over a period of 60 yrs ... not some 200+ like your relationship with Austria. This is a telling fact ...