Europe's Golden Age 4 ... (EGA4 Finally!!!)

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Comparing, comparing, hmmmm results are surprising!!! You gained less cities from Sweden than Caslu

I will give you the second chance to count it - but please, use it when you will already finish elementary school ( just teasing )

Again and again it proves that you are noob and that I'm altruistic disguised general. Why didn't you help Caslu to build more than 30 cities in any one of the previous sessions??

Nab, aka "Second Macchhiavelli", allying his former opressors to gain more power, suddenly talking about altruism - did I miss something particulary important ? ( also teasing... )

Why don't you build some if you are so inovative?? Or Russia took too much provinces from you and you have no money for them?

At least my money works for my own purposes :rofl: ( well...yeah..teasing )

Blood of my soldiers was wasted in previous war against Austria which was defeated after my engaging on eastern front and only because Russia couldn't prevent our victory anymore.

Well, the truth is that you've gained the smallest part of the cake, also supporting your natural enemy ( Prussia ) seems strange to me but I'm sure that you had/still have some strategic vision about it. ( I'm deadly serious here ... )

Sry Faello, I'll try to stop my thinking for your pleasure.

Oh, come on - be a good boy ( getting horny..err...teasing )

LOL!!! I have no personal feelings towards Caslu. When we talk in ICQ he is trying to help me and I present my opinion about his game to him. If anything it is friendship because we have nothing to compete about because he is Caslu and I'm nobody but when we are inside game I'm in opposite camp because of actions Russia have made earlier in the history. Cas and me have discussed it and decided our vendetta will last only for the duration of this game, same as my vendetta against Joohoo lasted only during EGA3 - now we are inseparable pool adicts hehe... I need no CB against Caslu - when Tem told me that he is going into war that was it - it would be the same with everybody.

Maybe I've expressed myself badly - I meant that you're adjusting your international policy, still considering fact of this so called treats - imo it should expired long time ago because it's clear politics.

LOL again!!! Mr. country yes you sold your freedom for survival and now you are alive, weak and scared of dissobeying Russia. As William Wallace was quoted to say: "we all die, but not all of us live actually" (adapt - please if someone knows the actual phrase post it - it will be in my signature)

Freeeeeeeeeeeeedoooooooom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, let me underline the word ALIVE, and Yordlama's Sweden is nothing than a memory now - at least his words are still alive for me - "You're no match for me"- considering the next few sessions after this statement, I can say only one thing - VERY BIG LOL :rofl:

But you've a point here - I never said that I want to win this game - there are to many more advanced players than me, also I got country, which I ( saying sincerely ) never played ( I always took Sweden instead of Denmark - I started playing Denmark in SP after beginning of this session ), don't mention the fact that before this game I was almost 100 % multiplayer n00b

Yeah, Braveheart is nice movie, but it's time to grow up kiddo

I agree! But I don't agree that this is his only mistake!

Well, I generalized a little bit

I don't need excuse Faello. Neither I appologised to anyone iirc. I honoured alliance and was just explaining why Russia lost support of France. If it is hillarious to you you can only imagine how it is hillarious to me

Impossible - you should be already dead because of instant laugh

I am slightly insulted,

Maybe you people should have a look what has gone wrong in this game, look through this thread and the AAR one and have a look at the amount of arguments and rants that have occured. Also you may want to notice the number of people who have quitted this game due to ingame reasons. It does not make for good reading .

That's exacly what I wanted to say - too much bad vibrations ( uhhh...what a strange english word ) - we should chill out, maybe organize some Vienna Congress in AAR thread - it would be nice.

 

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Shouldnt it be "Caslien?"

 

[Joohoo]

Shouldnt it be "Caslien?"

I wrote that first but Caslucifer is so much funnier :rofl:

 

[unmerged(5161)]

You should have gotten a picture of the K'shar from Dungeons and Dragons 3rd edition. Isnt that the origin of that moniker?

Then put that next to a grim reaper.

 

[Joohoo]

You should have gotten a picture of the K'shar from Dungeons and Dragons 3rd edition. Isnt that the origin of that moniker?

Then put that next to a grim reaper.

Dunno, never heard of K'shar elsewhere.

You should make your own picture

 

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LOL!!! Well this observation deserves reply

I will give you the second chance to count it - but please, use it when you will already finish elementary school ( just teasing )

Hehe sry for my incompetence - I have never bothered with the school so I can't count - my mistake, you are much bigger than Caslu and with that one province (6-5) you sealed his fate. My bad o

Nab, aka "Second Macchhiavelli", allying his former opressors to gain more power, suddenly talking about altruism - did I miss something particulary important? ( also teasing... )

Yes!!!! My teasing and Bern in my hands .

At least my money works for my own purposes ( well...yeah..teasing )

That is why you have so much of it lol

Well, the truth is that you've gained the smallest part of the cake, also supporting your natural enemy ( Prussia ) seems strange to me but I'm sure that you had/still have some strategic vision about it. ( I'm deadly serious here ... )

And whom I should support in your opinion?? Russia?? I did that and regreted it very much. (deadly serious)

Oh, come on - be a good boy ( getting horny..err...teasing )

Control yourself

Maybe I've expressed myself badly - I meant that you're adjusting your international policy, still considering fact of this so called treats - imo it should expired long time ago because it's clear politics.

It didn't expire long ago - previous session Russia funded Austria and prevented my victory. Do you read this forum???

Yeah, let me underline the word ALIVE, and Yordlama's Sweden is nothing than a memory now - at least his words are still alive for me - "You're no match for me"- considering the next few sessions after this statement, I can say only one thing - VERY BIG LOL

Yes you are alive slave and he is dead warrior lol

But you've a point here - I never said that I want to win this game - there are to many more advanced players than me, also I got country, which I ( saying sincerely ) never played ( I always took Sweden instead of Denmark - I started playing Denmark in SP after beginning of this session ), don't mention the fact that before this game I was almost 100 % multiplayer n00b

You did good. I was in almost same position here although I have been playing some MP's long ago in LAN but that was only similar game to this - no rivers, no straits, loansharking etc...

Yeah, Braveheart is nice movie, but it's time to grow up kiddo

When I grow up I'll be slave like you

Impossible - you should be already dead because of instant laugh

Yes, you are killing me

 

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You should have gotten a picture of the K'shar from Dungeons and Dragons 3rd edition. Isnt that the origin of that moniker?

Then put that next to a grim reaper.

Ksharans [Quadrant of Origin: Alpha] The Ksharans are a telepathic felinoid species from the planet Kshar. They are totally covered in fur of the shades common to the Big Cats found on Earth (there is, however, no set pattern). Compared to the three emerging offshoot species, The Ksharans are the most cat-like. Ksharans are born with psionics but at a very low level. Their ability increases as they mature; maturity comes in 15 years, a time of choices takes place between the age of 15 and 17, and their lifespan is approximately 180 yerars. Ksharans marry in threes, one male and two females. They are bonded psionicly and biochemically at the time of choices at which time females who wish to join the taan make that choice (no adult Ksharan is ever unbonded and in the event of an untimely death a new bondmate is selected) - these bondings are for life. The Taan facilitate bondings and act as healers. The Taan are always female. The Taan are sometimes linked to an individual marital group. Usually these people are the leaders of the clans as well as well placed members. This linking facilitates transition, which has several effects (the primary effect has been to cause the taan-linked bond group to live 600 years, the estamated lifespan of the taan). Upon the death of the bond-group¡¦s taan they have the option of selecting another taan. The primary benefit of this bonding ritual is the fact that Kshaar has not had a war in 2500 years. The Tanisian Alliance is a colonial association that was started in the year 2150. Currently the Alliance has 105 colonies and outposts and is home to quite a number of species. It maintains its own fleet of starships that are on par with the technology used by Starfleet. The Alliance is a full member of the Federation (although they are located in a somewhat remote area of the Federation with many of their colonies, including Tanis 5, the Alliance capital world)


p.s. already posted earlier

 

[unmerged(19903)]

Hehe sry for my incompetence - I have never bothered with the school so I can't count - my mistake, you are much bigger than Caslu and with that one province (6-5) you sealed his fate. My bad

Yeah, that's the positive mind set - keep going

Yes!!!! My teasing and Bern in my hands.

Oh mighty France, how you have fallen to be happy from one insignificant prov...

That is why you have so much of it lol

Well, Danish crown isn't so rich like the french one, so maybe french treasury will help our country in the same way as it helped England or Prussia

And whom I should support in your opinion?? Russia?? I did that and regreted it very much. (deadly serious)

Bah, we'll see how you will sing when England will put knife on your throat:

"Who you
gonna call? GHOSTBUSTERS!" - I would prefer Russia instead of them

Control yourself

Sure, no problemo ( ...sinking nails in the arms of chair...)

It didn't expire long ago - previous session Russia funded Austria and prevented my victory. Do you read this forum???

And England funded you - so what's the big deal ?

Yes you are alive slave and he is dead warrior lol

Bah, he was classical example of "Mr. Smarty Pants syndrome" - you calling me a slave ? Considering your last actions, I would say that you didn't pay attention to your own actions

When I grow up I'll be slave like you

Hmm, I would've swear that I've seen english collar on your neck

Yes, you are killing me

I always liked to crack somebody up

These were only jokes ofc - I like discussion with you - a lot of good "hits beyond the belt" with a lot of laugh

You did good. I was in almost same position here although I have been playing some MP's long ago in LAN but that was only similar game to this - no rivers, no straits, loansharking etc...

Thanks - but your performance was even better - you've made great diplomatic job - nice colonial possesions, much more durable considering possible naval conflict, than my outstrechted, quite rich, altough difficult to defend colonies and bases.

 

[K'shar]

Hmmmm, hey people calm down please. I don't want nobody to leave the game so please K'shar stop suggesting that to Caslu. Spain and Venice were played badly and they are noobs for your class and this game. Small wonder I have survived because I knew almost nothing. (I didn't even know abbrevatios when I landed in EGA3 and I had no idea about paradox plaza, not to mention straits, rivers and so on) Also Caslu in this moment you are returning ball and trying to force K'shar nerves to the edge so he would resign. All of this is not correct and has nothing to do with your countries. if you think our war was incorrect you should see what people did in Thirst of Glory to me (and I was new perm). Literaly everybody attacked me in rappid succesion and if I was ok in the start of the session I was sick in the end although, thanks to King John, I have returned most of the lost territory. Nothing even remotely similar happened to you and please guys don't take all of this personally. We can and we should do war with words but not to the point of insults. If you want to seed new conflict in western alliance this is the most undiplomatic way to do this so please stick to the game and leave personal feuds for ICQ or other forums.

Hmm. nerves to the edge not quite but close. However, I will resign as I didn't know this had become so personal to Cas that he jumped on the editing save bandwagon. I do wonder who all these people are that accuse me of this but whatever. Lesson learned never be a good player and the host. I also wonder what it is that affronts you so personally Cas? Why is this game really so hard to take in stride? Do you feel betrayed since our conversation on ICQ? Do you feel mislead? If you remember I told you in that I would consider, a more neutral stance towards Russia but I signed on to nothing and said my commitment to NL/Prussia remains dominant. Anyways, this is all speculation now, i'll try and find a new perm.

BTW, as for my statements on the Diplo forum, Tem would understand. I play this game to have fun not just to win win win. I was discussing have a rivalry with him on icq lastnight just so that the game can get a little kick in its' static ass.

 

[unmerged(19903)]

Hmm. nerves to the edge not quite but close. However, I will resign as I didn't know this had become so personal to Cas that he jumped on the editing save bandwagon. I do wonder who all these people are that accuse me of this but whatever. Lesson learned never be a good player and the host. I also wonder what it is that affronts you so personally Cas? Why is this game really so hard to take in stride? Do you feel betrayed since our conversation on ICQ? Do you feel mislead? If you remember I told you in that I would consider, a more neutral stance towards Russia but I signed on to nothing and said my commitment to NL/Prussia remains dominant. Anyways, this is all speculation now, i'll try and find a new perm.

BTW, as for my statements on the Diplo forum, Tem would understand. I play this game to have fun not just to win win win. I was discussing have a rivalry with him on icq lastnight just so that the game can get a little kick in its' static ass.

Not again - guys, come on - no one leaves the game

Temperature of discussion will surely fall and soon we will again scheme against each other with the smile on our bewicked faces ( at least, I hope so )

Cas - chill out - K'shar - chill out ( altough I will not resign from my propaganda against demonic british empire )

 

[K'shar]

I wont leave, I've never done that and I wont do, especially since I am the GM. But I am not the only one who think "low" of you, some ppl already said to me that you modify the savefile (you know who I am talking about) and I, particulary, already saw this once (That you admit later). I didnt believe (or couldnt see) since I thought you are a friend and honest, but your past actions towards me (not towards Russia) show me your very true face.

Who else thinks so low of me Cas? And yes, Nab thought so but I can explain in detail again and again what happened. Furthermore I think Nab has withdrawn that accusation in light of my explanations. It was a misunderstanding of game mechanics.

Past actions against you? What on earth is gnawing at you? I am so lost that you find this all of a sudden over one session so personal ... here I publicate your ICQ conversation with me, if that is the cause ... we shall see what the public decide.

Date and Time: 07/16/2005 08:41 AM
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And BTW, I want to discuss a more friendly relations between Russia-UK

Bah... tomorrow after EGA
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lol, you know I was willing to , just before you started spreading rumours of how the world is rdy to gang me with you at their head:-D. That went down badly hehe.
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I was just scaring you
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I want to keep status quo in Europe and since you are the richest might be your policy too
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so circustances changes, similar ideologies means friends
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or at least pseudo-friends
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since cas-K' cant never be friends
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well ... it backfired from my persective, sometimes your diplomatic aims baffle me. When I am finally cooling towards you, you took it as the time to throw my neutrality to the wind.

Anyways, i'm tentativily open to this Russian opening.
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we'll of course have to see how matters develop. Our relations with the NL, and Prussia take precedence for the moment though.
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do what you want... I am just saying that at least now we are closer in ideology than the others since we dont want to anything change in Europe, right?
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well ... "anything" is a wide plain ;-)
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this mean that France attacking Austria means financial support to Austria and vice-versa
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I'll be watching situation with carefully, as I said a british or german attack on any nation wouldnt be seen with good eyes as you wouldnt like a Russian attack now
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as I said, in response to this offering I will cool the propoganda department some. But your evil Autocracy is still on the blacklist tsar , also your true aims here need to be devulged. Time will tell.

heheheheeheheh a Russian attack would 'have' actually made my day
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so we are in some king of Cold War that can bring us to friendly relationship in long-term since our geopolitical means that
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of course ... Russia-UK rarely conflict over solid geopolitical matters ... more a matter of BOP and alliances that drag us in.

And bad history of course.
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so your not free anytime later today?
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So I'll leave the question up for us to think well ... so we can redefine our foreing policies and create new plan of mutual cooperation, not in each one protection, but in protection of status quo in Europe
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When I arrive from the party I'll icq you
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I am going to lunch now... cya
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yes. perhaps

later
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pity marlborough wanted a trip to Moscow.

I think this matter is routed in something much deeper, as I said to Joo: "a certain rivalry has apparently hijacked this game" and due to the aims of another ruined it for myself. Why is it so hard to lose? Well other games have fallen apart for less.

However, the situation is simple. When you feel that your "in-game" hands are tied due to another players expected reactions on the forum, the matter has gone to far.

 

[Joohoo]

Who else thinks so low of me Cas? And yes, Nab thought so but I can explain in detail again and again what happened. Furthermore I think Nab has withdrawn that accusation in light of my explanations. It was a misunderstanding of game mechanics.

Past actions against you? What on earth is gnawing at you? I am so lost that you find this all of a sudden over one session so personal ... here I publicate your ICQ conversation with me, if that is the cause ... we shall see what the public decide.



I think this matter is routed in something much deeper, as I said to Joo: "a certain rivalry has apparently hijacked this game" and due to the aims of another ruined it for myself. Why is it so hard to lose? Well other games have fallen apart for less.

However, the situation is simple. When you feel that your "in-game" hands are tied due to another players expected reactions on the forum, the matter has gone to far.

I saw the rivalry in EGA3 too so it is not something new. Though i don't know how you were acting in 1 and 2.
In EGA4 it just crossed the line.

 

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LOL!!!

These were only jokes ofc - I like discussion with you - a lot of good "hits beyond the belt" with a lot of laugh
Thanks - but your performance was even better - you've made great diplomatic job - nice colonial possesions, much more durable considering possible naval conflict, than my outstrechted, quite rich, altough difficult to defend colonies and bases.

I did some of those by intuition like grouping of the possible empire. My biggest mistake was neglecting trade because I haven't viewed trade as something important, more a thing of prestiege, as it was in past when you could have trade agreements with everybody without penalty. My investments and domestic policy were complete failure and this France will always lag on the trio fantasticus. Interesting thing is policy between those three countries and how every other player have to choose between clans formed by influence of those states. It has many similarities with modern day policy and those of recent past. Fight for prestige is almost unbeliveable and, as have wrote earlier in the forum, inconsistencies in short term can lead to greater instability in the long term. Everybody thought that I'm speaking nonsense to cover my warfare in Austria, but we are now in unstable system with world war looming every few years. One little part of these inconsitencies (sry maybe spelling is wrong in many places) happened between Russia and France, from both side perhaps, but it resulted in deep opposition of any one of those two countries to another. We battle with ideas and armies but when game is over feud will not exist anymore and we are competitive friends all over again. I belive that this people understands that this is not personal but between empires. Concerning playing France I should have read the Ryo's Economical guide first. There is clearly stated that domestic policy and economy in the general should be tried in SP before you try to apply it to MP. Not only have I not tried it in SP, I didn't even bother to have any domestic policy until I saw what is going on in Germany. At some point of those observations I thought I'm dreaming, and a nightmare it was. In those times Russia and England were way out of line and I was surrounded by problems. My trustworthy ally was inflating, and not only in size, to quote him, and I was not inflating but seriously lagging in income and technology. Thanks to Tem's patience and brilliant mind of Ryo, who wrote those wonderfull guides, I have stabilised decline and maintained influence of the country. As lesser power here, France has to choose a clan and try to partcipate in process of forming western politics. My diplo relations are defined with position, my relative power to any other empire and a complex pattern od international relations (conflict between Russia and western block of England and BB, conflict between OE and Austria and my own conflict against Austria (which is constantly refusing to die) whom I'm battling for the entire time spent in EGA4). So my moves are not influenced by people but by circumstances and formed hostilities throughout the continent.

 

[unmerged(41172)]

I saw the rivalry in EGA3 too so it is not something new. Though i don't know how you were acting in 1 and 2.
In EGA4 it just crossed the line.

Yes people cool down .

Interesting conversation btw... one diamond of foreign policy using all conecting points and interests....

*hostile relations off*

...and yes it is about time for withdrawal of all accusations and for starting playing...

*back to hostile mode towards eastern coalition*

 

[Casluerj]

I saw the rivalry in EGA3 too so it is not something new. Though i don't know how you were acting in 1 and 2.
In EGA4 it just crossed the line.

It was this way in EGA1, I was Austria K'shar was France... so you can imagine (the game end soon we didnt finished it because of lack of ppl and interest)

In EGA2 (the best of EGAs) was memmorial. I was a Super-England and K'shar was a Super-Spain and we fought (At least against each other allies, but almost never against ourselves) all the time.

In EGA3 you already know, once again, even being France and K'shar OE, natural allies, we keep fighting each other (poor Joohoo, he is paying back all I've done with him ... but where is K'shars payback? )

But in all games we fought honestly against each other, always. I remember that in EGA2, when I couldnt play one session he actually postponed an attack on me since I wouldnt be here. Now it is just too different. In the first gangbang, when I was having connection problems, I was subbed and even this way the gang took place. In the other week my Russian was completely conquested and with high RR so no reason to continue fighting (and also I had to eat with my parents) so I had to peace without doing anything in that gang.

In the second gang, I wasnt expecting nothing since I was being as more pacifist as I could to make the world see that England was the only one who was expanding. And I really felt bad and my ally wasnt here... K'shar knew that I was AFK (or at least I thought he wouldnt doubt since I thought we were friends) and event his way gang took place. And dont come to me and say that it was planned before, since plans can change with circuntances.

You know what was lost in this EGA? Ethic. Honor. How many NAPs broken?? How many gangbangs?

You guys like to say that I destroied Sweden. When I fight Sweden it was: Denmark and Russia vs Austria, BB and Sweden. 2v3. If Swden got his ass kicked was because Rus-Den fought better, but we were honorable. Do you know what is a war against Persia, OE, England, Prussia and France? And later another one against OE, Prussia, England, NL and France? Really i dont call this fair, this is dirty. If you or K'shar doesnt agree, sorry, but for me this is dirty.

If we'll have a EGA5 I'll put a gang rule on it, who wants to play it play or doesnt, bye bye.

 

[Casluerj]

Hmm. nerves to the edge not quite but close. However, I will resign as I didn't know this had become so personal to Cas that he jumped on the editing save bandwagon. I do wonder who all these people are that accuse me of this but whatever. Lesson learned never be a good player and the host. I also wonder what it is that affronts you so personally Cas? Why is this game really so hard to take in stride? Do you feel betrayed since our conversation on ICQ? Do you feel mislead? If you remember I told you in that I would consider, a more neutral stance towards Russia but I signed on to nothing and said my commitment to NL/Prussia remains dominant. Anyways, this is all speculation now, i'll try and find a new perm.

BTW, as for my statements on the Diplo forum, Tem would understand. I play this game to have fun not just to win win win. I was discussing have a rivalry with him on icq lastnight just so that the game can get a little kick in its' static ass.

I felt betraied not about your policies, not ingame... I am disapointed with you with the way you drove it. A gang... A gang when my ally wasnt here... A gang when I said to you that I would be usually AFK.

You never did that before, you never were so dishonorable before... I played with you for more than one year, God Damnit!! Not only EGAs but 1v1 in HOI or EU2 and I've never seen the EGA4's K'shar... This is the one who I cant trust.. this is the one who I am disapointed with... but this isnt my old friend... This isnt my partner of game since EGA1, this isnt the great player that I played with (because great players also have to show great actions).

I wouldnt like that you leave. EGA without K'shar isnt EGA, I just would like to ask that you reconsider you past actios and think if the old K'shar would participate in a gang? if yes, you change and we are lost , if no this is just a small discussion (normal in a relationship with more than one year every week)

 

[Joohoo]

It was this way in EGA1, I was Austria K'shar was France... so you can imagine (the game end soon we didnt finished it because of lack of ppl and interest)

Sounds like good times.

In EGA2 (the best of EGAs) was memmorial. I was a Super-England and K'shar was a Super-Spain and we fought (At least against each other allies, but almost never against ourselves) all the time.

Supersweet.

In EGA3 you already know, once again, even being France and K'shar OE, natural allies, we keep fighting each other (poor Joohoo, he is paying back all I've done with him ... but where is K'shars payback? )

Starting to get personal again? Low. You think I want payback? Be serious Cas. This is no vendetta, then I wouldn't have taken Port would I? Why I changed is another story. As Austria It was pretty disturbing to be between you and K'shar. BOTH, because you act like dog and cat. I wanted to quit but didn't because I didn't want to quit bad or how I thought. I didn't want to kill the game.

You know what was lost in this EGA? Ethic. Honor. How many NAPs broken?? How many gangbangs?

I have never broken this many NAPs as in EGA4. Don't know why, could be because the game was boring.

You guys like to say that I destroied Sweden. When I fight Sweden it was: Denmark and Russia vs Austria, BB and Sweden. 2v3. If Swden got his ass kicked was because Rus-Den fought better, but we were honorable. Do you know what is a war against Persia, OE, England, Prussia and France? And later another one against OE, Prussia, England, NL and France? Really i dont call this fair, this is dirty. If you or K'shar doesnt agree, sorry, but for me this is dirty.

So to be honorful you annex another player? That is not my style Cas, and I never thought that about you either.

If we'll have a EGA5 I'll put a gang rule on it, who wants to play it play or doesnt, bye bye.

This will be my last EGA.

 

[Casluerj]

Sounds like good times.

Supersweet.

Starting to get personal again? Low. You think I want payback? Be serious Cas. This is no vendetta, then I wouldn't have taken Port would I? Why I changed is another story. As Austria It was pretty disturbing to be between you and K'shar. BOTH, because you act like dog and cat. I wanted to quit but didn't because I didn't want to quit bad or how I thought. I didn't want to kill the game.

I have never broken this many NAPs as in EGA4. Don't know why, could be because the game was boring.

So to be honorful you annex another player? That is not my style Cas, and I never thought that about you either.

This will be my last EGA.

About what you called Personal, what I said was a joke, sorry if you didnt understand my sence of humor.

A game being bore doesnt make you the right to not be ethic. Just make the game even more bore.

Once again I'll repeat: Ear left Poland, we didnt have any player and during 3 session it has more than 5 different players that were ruining Poland (not the players but this instability). I though it would be better for the game, rather than everytime have to look for a player for Poland, annexed it. But, to respect game balanced I shared Poland with all. Give 9 fucking lands to Austria, BB and OE. I could took everything to me, couldnt I? But wasnt my intention.

Too bad this is the last EGA you'll play... hope play another game with you someday since you are very very funny *remember Joo's paints* ...

 

[Joohoo]

About what you called Personal, what I said was a joke, sorry if you didnt understand my sence of humor.

A game being bore doesnt make you the right to not be ethic. Just make the game even more bore.

Once again I'll repeat: Ear left Poland, we didnt have any player and during 3 session it has more than 5 different players that were ruining Poland (not the players but this instability). I though it would be better for the game, rather than everytime have to look for a player for Poland, annexed it. But, to respect game balanced I shared Poland with all. Give 9 fucking lands to Austria, BB and OE. I could took everything to me, couldnt I? But wasnt my intention.

Too bad this is the last EGA you'll play... hope play another game with you someday since you are very very funny *remember Joo's paints* ...

Bad timing to joke. I was quite pissed at the moment plus that rolleyes smiley look arrogant in my face.
I am sorry.
Not ethic but spice the game a little and I was not thinking of you. I was thinking when I attacked Venice.

Yeah maybe we will meet in another game but I will probably not be playing so much EU2 in the future. But you never know. See you on Sunday.
Hopefully with K'shar.

Now don't disturb me, I am watching Van Helsing.

 

[K'shar]

I felt betraied not about your policies, not ingame... I am disapointed with you with the way you drove it. A gang... A gang when my ally wasnt here... A gang when I said to you that I would be usually AFK.

You never did that before, you never were so dishonorable before... I played with you for more than one year, God Damnit!! Not only EGAs but 1v1 in HOI or EU2 and I've never seen the EGA4's K'shar... This is the one who I cant trust.. this is the one who I am disapointed with... but this isnt my old friend... This isnt my partner of game since EGA1, this isnt the great player that I played with (because great players also have to show great actions).

I wouldnt like that you leave. EGA without K'shar isnt EGA, I just would like to ask that you reconsider you past actios and think if the old K'shar would participate in a gang? if yes, you change and we are lost , if no this is just a small discussion (normal in a relationship with more than one year every week)

How little you understand me Cas. You think that I personally arranged these gangs against Russia? Really? I'll tell you a secret, every war I have been involved against Russia I had intended as a 2v1 with Prussia or at the most a 3v2 with France/Prussia. The fact of the matter is, soon as everyone learned of German-English intentions they came flocking to our colours.

Ask around, in the first coalition war I felt grave regret that so many nations seriously wanted to beat on Russia, the large coalition was never my idea and I only went along due to my bilateral agreement with my ally. Again in the last war, I proposed it the end of last session (wanting to use Marlborough), long before I knew that Faello would be absent or you would be sick. My initial intention was that it would be Prussia-Britain vs. Russia-Denmark but yet again other nations became involved ... not my intention but the ultimate result of other nations relationships and your badboy image. However, I cannot simply agree and motivate my allies for war (mainly Tem here) and then just withdraw because the amount of nations involved is gonna hurt your feelings and you'll inevitably pin the blame on myself. No, I agreed on a course of action with Prussia and I will fulfill it, again though I envisioned a more limited conflict ... but situations change (and the unexpected makes Eu2 enjoyable for myself).

Britain is not like EGA2 Spain or 3 OE, in those situations I could act with releative impunity and rarely had a large network of relations to consider ... as OE my main concern was with the Mughals, but again our alliance was very informal. As Spain I was a single nation alliance, with 3x the next nations' income, high MP and great strategic positioning. I could plan and drop wars at my leisure, not so unilaterally can I act with Britain (though I am reaching that point now). I have no care just to beat you, nor the intent to anihilate your nation, I already told Tem that the East is looking so damn-even now he cannot really expect any real British aide in the future (unless things turn grim). I roleplayed my opposition to Russia in line with my need to keep Prussia strong (a powerful British ally on the continent that won't threaten my interests). This has been the course of things, I always caution against wars that will totally destroy nation states. I wanted to help rebuild Venice, I have funded Spain, I have looked on with approval at the Ottoman Expansion and I championed the cause of Poland. I did all this not only because it was the British thing to do, but because I play EU2 with a very strict code of ethics. Circumstances change, people do not.

I feel though that as my policies have lead me into conflict with your Russia and your Russia has lost much because of this, you pin your frustrations on the evil schemings of K'sharator. To be perfectly honest, you haven't been able to break out of the British cordon around you but I don't play with personal vendetta's in mind ... however your accusations imply otherwise about you. You have misjudged me, and seeing as none of this will have a real impact on you. I feel matters will go more smoothly without me.