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The third edition is finally beginning! We couldnt wait more! And when the Technical draw in the second edition was leading to nowhere, we agreed that was time to start the new one.

Here is the basic information about EGA3 :

Time: Sundays 17 GMT

Session: 5 Hours, but if ALL players agree we can go longer

Scenario : 1453, 0.6

Rehosts: Following January, unless the dropped player is currently in REALLY war, for example, we dont have to rehost immediatly if France dropped and she is at war against Golden Horde. ;)

List of things to be edited for the next session:

- Cores on Lappland, Livland and Estland to Denmark;

- Mtawa (768) from Venice to France;

- 5000d from France to Venice.

Player List:

France - Casluerj - 294204319 - GM
England - Formula51- 335570041
Austria- Joohoo - 298342882
Spain -
Russia -
Ottoman Empire - K'shar - 299082577 - CO-GM, Host and Editor
Venice - Cicero - 292316994
Mughal Empire - Temujin - 4193818
Bradenburg - Nabukodonosor -
Denmark - EarendilHE - 82941754
 
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Guys here are the rules for EGA3 to be aproved for ya. Fell free to criticize, make suggestions and new ideas. As I've already said I decided to "promote" K'shar to CO-GM, as he is the host and the editor to help me in some issues.

- Don't offend players; but you are free to do it Roleplaying with diplomacy, tho;

- Edits always between Sessions and never during them. Cosmetic edits allowed (changing colonies names for more appropriate ones etc);

- Map trading with AI forbidden; Map trading with human only possible after 1600

- Maximum 3 provinces taken by a human in a war, non-europeans provs count as 1/2 and CoTs as 2 provinces. This only takes effect between humans. No rule between humans and AI. After 1650 maximum of 5 provinces can be taken. After 1700, 7 provs and after 1800 no peace restriction;

- Spain and Portugal restricted to their respective ToT areas for colonization, while ToT is in effect;

- If at -3 stab and -85WS, you have to accept next stabhitting offer. This is a vital rule and I ll be pay attention for its accomplishment;

- Cultural Rule: Any nation that control 75% of a culture for 30 years may claim that culture as state culture, but a nation can only claim TWO(2) cultures. So plan it carefully as a culture gained by this way will not be removed in any case; Japanese, Han, Cantonese and Persian can't be claimed, but persian can be claimed by OE or Mughals after 1700s; Also all nations can claim one, and only one, culture as a small state culture, if a culture has 2 or less provs.

- A nation that control a Province that it isnt his core for 60 years and it has a state culture, will get a core on it. This doesnt have limit like culture, ie, you can gain a core as much as you be able to claim it, and the core prov MUST have the same religion of the country, unless the country has Innovativiness >=9; Colonies cant be claimed!!

-We will always play with the latest patch, unless there is a good reason to not do it;

- Using pirates to stop a load or deny a retreat is forbidden;

- A Counter-reform country can't dow Counter-reform countries unless this country has a cassus belli on the other; Also CRC countries will get a -1 stab penalty (edited after the session) if dows a catholic country ( and still suffers the normal penalties);

- Extraordinary peaces are allowed:

1)End Embargo ( must be demanded even with a WP);

2) Stop colonization of a certain area by a nation - This will forbid the defeated nation to colonize that area ( 1 continent per peace, considering that North America, South America and Central America are different continents) during the duration of the peace. +15WS;

3) Trade rights - Permit that certain nation have monopoly under one ofthe defetead nations COTs without threatens by the lost nation. Must be atmax one COT per peace and costs +10WS;

4) Desmilitarization of an area -No troops will be acceptable in that area and the fortifications of the area loses one level; it will be edited after the session. Cost 1/3 per province, ie, After winning war against Spain in 1500 she can demand Rousillon, Navarra and desmilitarization of Aragon, Cantabria and Gerona!!!

5) The durations of these agreements is 20 years;

- Max of 3 human per alliance

- If a human is forced-vassalized he must remain this way for at least 20 years. Unless its liege free him peacefully; and after those 20 years he must have to fight for independence. Despite the fact he can attack the vassalizer allies, he cant attack his vassals.

- AAR and intense diplomacy are highly recomended.. don?t let the game dies during the weekdays.

- The GM will make decisions by himself for small issues. But for polemical issues the CO-GM will also discuss the problem with the GM. If they get a consensus on the matter the problem is solved, but if they don?t agree with each other, the rest of the regular players will vote (The GM and the CO-GM wont vote) and decide, for minimum majority (50% +1). If , even with this, a draw happen, the GM and only him will put a final point on it.

- We are playing with Random Leaders and this matter is under the responsability of K'shar and Temujin.

- Increase the chance of nations to receive conquerors and explorers after 1580.

- Give away cities or try to avoid some event to fire is considered gamey and wont be permitted.

- Move capitols is permitted but the request nation will lose -3 stab points and 300d.
 
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As I said, I might be interested to try out the Mughals, but it'd have to check the scenario. I'll keep checking here.
 

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Having recently played in a crowded game in central europe, I think I'd advise against all 3 of Denmark, BB, and Poland (as well as Sweden, Austria, and Russia which are essential of course). It's a recipe for the players of at least 2 of those countries getting nowhere, and either exiting or committing suicide. At any rate, if there is a Denmark, it should be given some cores in Germany, and the Counts Feud event slept - it's a killer as it stands.

But I'd vote for no Poland and no Denmark - then BB probably stands a chance with an ally here or there.
 

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Good to know all is in order. I'll critic the rules in due time. As for nation selection:

1) OE
2) England
3) Austria

edit: by the way, good job with France in the nappy. You'd find it funny to know that on the march towards nappy in BB, about 2 days before I arrived Suvorov keeled over :rolleyes: . Not that it would have changed much at that point, but we might have had one real fight then :p .
 

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Chas: Good point chas, but lets wait to see if we will get those 3 nations before plan anything.

Temujin: You are welcome. Hehehe Mughals and China.... this sounds very very funny.

K'shar: Yes, I am waiting for you (all of you) to critic and give ideas about how can we improve our rules. And yes it was a funny nappy, but it over when nelson and the english fleet was sunk :D. Also Karl death jsut in the beggining made Austria be useless until end of the game. Suvurov would win nappy at that time but would not kill him ;), but russians hordes are sth to be scared.

BOB: We arent having problems so far. Until now we have ( choosing by preferences)

Me - France
BOB - China or Portugal
Temu - Mughal
Chas - England or ..................
Veil - England or Spain
K'shar - OE

So the only thing is : Veil vs Chas... Who wants england the most?
 

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Well I did request England as my number 1 choice a week or 2 ago in the prior thread so I do believe I have dibs on the nation :p

We already discussed some of the rules in the prior thread if you could pull out some of those discussions and move them over here that would be great and of course I am too lazy to do it myself ;-)
 

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Veil, it isnt a matter of who pick it first but who can lived without England. While You put another options in your "Playable nations", chas didnt choose anything else than England. I would advise you to discuss this on icq.

I know we've already discussed a lot, but all your ideas should remain with you so post it again or do a copy from the EGA2 thread.

Until now we are missing Krasny, Balinus, Med and Cicero to appear here and pick. I hope more would join. Plz guys recruit anyone you can as I'll do the same.
 

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its a pity EGA2 ended before reaching nappy era, i saw many interesting wars coming. :(
but spain was just too uber and so i can understand many players were bored and wanted to start a new edition.

sign me in for EGA3, im looking forward to play with this set of people again.
i havent found something about the scenario, here my preferred nations for different scenarios.

bocaj´s 1453 scen:
- Venice
- England

PE´s 1520 scen:
- Portugal
- Sweden
- England
 

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Cicero said:
its a pity EGA2 ended before reaching nappy era, i saw many interesting wars coming. :(
but spain was just too uber and so i can understand many players were bored and wanted to start a new edition.

sign me in for EGA3, im looking forward to play with this set of people again.
i havent found something about the scenario, here my preferred nations for different scenarios.

bocaj´s 1453 scen:
- Venice
- England

PE´s 1520 scen:
- Portugal
- Sweden
- England

May wars would come but all predictible and 90% of chance of a draw.

Good, then we will have a Venice. Well done.
 

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discussion on rules:

we use the same cultural rule again?
for me it looks a little strange to see a france with cantonese or an england with japanese nation culture last game. some nation get a very big benefit from this culture rule, other dont gain anything of it. so i vote to skip that rule.
what do others think?
 

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Cicero said:
discussion on rules:

we use the same cultural rule again?
for me it looks a little strange to see a france with cantonese or an england with japanese nation culture last game. some nation get a very big benefit from this culture rule, other dont gain anything of it. so i vote to skip that rule.
what do others think?

No, IIRC, the culture rules will change a bit. We will increase the % that a nation would have to claim the culture ( I am open to hear opnions) and finally, Han, Cantonese, Japanese and Persian wont be "clamable".
 

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Hi there, i don't know if i will be able to join as a perm because i want to play in the new throne of heaven game. But i don't know if i will be choosed to play in. Anyway, i can play as a sub until the other game begin (4 weeks maybe) or become a perm if i don't play the other game. Since i can only play 1 game/week, i presume you understand my choice.

So, heres my choice considering the above :

1 - Denmark (Chas voted for no Denmark... we can see what the others want to play)
2 - Portugal
3 - Sweden

As for the rules, i stand behind what i said earlier :

- No ToT
- No player military alliance, but only "diplomatic" alliance. It will allow the creation of sphere of influence)
- Add Random leader.

Good day! :)
 

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i would like to join

country preferences:
1.Poland
2.Denmark
3.Sweden