Europe Unleashed: The Return of the Slarg

[Johan]

I'll admit that the idea of the Swedish/Polish alliance was to create a limited war in the north.
But Austria and Brandenburg scared the hell out of me.. Sure I could beat BRA 1v1, but HAB *shiver*.

We spent 20 years trying to talk France or the Ottomans into a war versus Austria & Russia, but failed to get a commitment.

 

[Johan]

Brandenburg hereby announces that the rich province of Memel will be given for free to Poland, as a thanks for their support in these times of trouble. Prussia will remain in Brandenburgian hands.

Signed.

 

[ForzaA]

The Three Eastern Powers and Spain[/b]

• The Ottoman Empire
• Russia
• Sweden
• Spain

Sweden is not THAT far east :wacko:


as to TA, I have no enemies

 

[ForzaA]

And some remarkable stats based on the Russian stat thingie

Fortifications
SWE	2,97
BRA	2,59
HOL	2,03
HAB	1,87
FRA	1,82
POL	1,77
PER	1,75
MOG	1,68
TUR	1,57
POR	1,52
ENG	1,49
RUS	1,26
SPA	0,98

Apparently, the % in the russian stats for forts are based off fortified provinces, this is from ALL provinces, thus levels <1 are possible
Still, we can conclude that:

• Spanish possessions are underfortified.
• The Dutch increased fortifications the most.
• Sweden and Brandenburg are still well ahead.

Manufactories
SWE	0,48
BRA	0,36
HOL	0,33
TUR	0,24
RUS	0,23
FRA	0,20
ENG	0,18
HAB	0,18
POL	0,17
MOG	0,16
POR	0,11
SPA	0,07
PER	0,04

some observations:

• Brandenburg has built manufactories in over a third of their provinces in one session.
• Sweden and Brandenburg are leading here, aswell, albeit with a smaller margin.

 

[ForzaA]

How does the fort stats compare to the end of the last session (the last one isnt quite the same as this one).

I'll see if I can get you some comparative stats

EDIT: here it is

SWE	2,967741935	2,516129032
BRA	2,590909091	1,952380952
HOL	2,025		0,970588235
HAB	1,870967742	1,698113208
FRA	1,821428571	1,358974359
POL	1,766666667	1,380952381
PER	1,75		0
MOG	1,684210526	0
TUR	1,571428571	1,523809524
POR	1,515151515	0,924242424
ENG	1,487179487	1,396825397
RUS	1,256410256	1,246376812
SPA	0,980952381	0,959183673

second table is previous session according to the new method. No data were avaliable for Persia or the Mughals.

 

[ForzaA]

Ottoman Alliance - 6194
(Ottomans, Turkey)

:rofl:

have posted the comparison of forts...

 

[ForzaA]

Guys, enough with all these stats... :wacko:

"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"

 

[ForzaA]

However, needing to get it myself will put me even farther behind the rest of Europe in land, naval and trade tech.

you're not telling me the mughals are supposed to be able to be on par, or at max 1 CRT behind Europe, are you?

 

[Johan]

I refuse to accept to edit in a large non-european nation to be richer than nations like Poland and Brandenburg.

 

[ForzaA]

Why do some people believe that nations like Persia, Mughals and China are actually supposed to be on par with Europe in tech and power?

Dane!
I already said that

 

[ForzaA]

and another new patch

(this time, it's in the general discussions again)

 

[ForzaA]

"sick man of Europe" ring a bell?

 

[Johan]

[*]Poland

We had a trade agreement?

Since Poland obviously does not have any trade to mention, we will just embargo anyone putting merchants in Danzig, as we believe that trade will only bring anti-polish ideas into our great country.

 

[ForzaA]

We had a trade agreement?

Since Poland obviously does not have any trade to mention, we will just embargo anyone putting merchants in Danzig, as we believe that trade will only bring anti-polish ideas into our great country.

Since you are the one who programmed it all, what happens to the "grain support" (ie. the extra support limit for "grain traded") from an embargoed nation, in regards to the controlling embargoer getting TE*embargoed country's trade

 

[ForzaA]

The greatest victory was making the Swedish CRT fleet flee to a harbour.

hate to burst your bubble, but I didn't have a naval CRT advantage at that time anymore

.. still odd how it goes from you losing 20 vs me 4 per "roll" to me losing like 90 in the blink of an eye...

War with Russia was fun, but quite useless (both lost a LOT of troops, and in the end the borders were where they started)... could've ended quite differently if those 200 men in Moscow had given up a day earlier...

 

[Johan]

Poland was hurt bad from the wars. The first war in late 17th century was not too bad, but the second bled our manpower dry...

It was a great fun war though, with Russian attacks all along the border taking cities, then desperate Polish attacks retaking them, while Sweden attacked Russia in the north..
It was a stalemate but a fluid one.

 

[ForzaA]

Holy crap Sweden is hyperteching

not this session....


2/3 to 3/4 of my casualties were suffered this session (is that bad or good? )

income dropped
inflation went up

lost my edge in LT

 

[ForzaA]

heh well it was the first player wars for Sweden finally it got taste of using its money for something else than teching and Sweden has still lost less troops for battle than the dwarf of MP Holland .

not in the session though....

And, as I said, did anyone even NOTICE the Swedish victories (except Russia, that is )

 

[ForzaA]

Bah! You lost what 400k this session to combat and a similar number to attrition? Even Prussia lost more than that! As for Austrian, French and Ottoman loses, the numbers hardly bear thinking about!

I was constantly out of MP during war, and only for very short times out of war at the max, so I guess sweden is underpowered in terms of MP

 

[Johan]

not in the session though....

And, as I said, did anyone even NOTICE the Swedish victories (except Russia, that is )

I did