Seen said:
I have stated that I support a small monetary compensation to both France and Neth, yes. France is happy with such a compensation, Neth is not. As I see it, you then peace me and France and fight Neth. Why is that unfair?
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I have stated that I support a small monetary compensation to both France and Neth, yes. France is happy with such a compensation, Neth is not. As I see it, you then peace me and France and fight Neth. Why is that unfair?
Hive said:
I agree with the others that Fredrik should GM. If he dont want to, i'll do it, rather that then postpone the session.
i can be GM next session if needed. I sure don't want to postpone it.
You got yourself a sub Hivester?
You got yourself a sub Hivester?
Fredrik82 said:
You will be the sub GM then.
And yes, FAL will sub - which I stated several days ago... and he even posted in this thread more than once since then. Gee you are slow...
Seen said:
Now if I after you said you quit accept Portugals last offer leave my ally alone or walk over him wont that be even wors than what would have happened to Portugal. Wouldnt it mean that because of Adam quitting and you threathening and quitting Holland is left completely alone to Portugal gangbang it and take its colonies when all it did was answer France alliance call to fight realy expencive war.
Wouldnt this give Byakhiam more than good reasons to say I quit because....
There just is point of no return for everything.
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I dont see your logic at all....Rezag said:
But for the record, i didnt/dont want any dutch colonys....
Seen said:
So basically, your whole reason for quitting is a bunch of guesses and premonitions with no actual logic behind them?
Gimme a break.
Ok, to you, notJTUapperently, READ ALL OF THE ABOVE.Just Too Uber said:So basically, your whole reason for quitting is a bunch of guesses and premonitions with no actual logic behind them?
Gimme a break.
This is taking out of the context in the extreem! this was responding to hive in a assumption i didnt see as realistic, which is it wasnt! Cant people just see things as they are and stop looking at it to fit their own story/view!?
I actually were somewhat close to utter the Q-word during last session as I had enough of being pounded for fun, but instead of quitting I decided that I will win this war, no matter the cost. And by winning I don't mean like getting 1 TP or 100 ducats, but something that will really hurt Porto.
So why would I want to hurt Porto?
Well, firstly, I got dowed twice by Porto last session, lost three very good provs to Sweden, not to mention that he only attacked my colonies in both wars and simply disregarded anything of my allies. So I feel that I'm being picked on during those wars.
Secondly, Porto let me down when we were allied, forcing me to cede most of my NA to England. "But Spain threatened" is so lousy excuse, because it wasn't like Breit would really have warred you.
Thirdly, I have noted that whenever one wins a war, there will be a rematch and one's enemy wants many times what you took in the first place. This always happens. Even Hive did so. So why the damn I should not do so?
If Seen wants to quit, he may. We will be needing new Porto and I doubt it's gonna be a fun position, because I will not lower my demands even if player changes. Any kind of lenitence is good only if you are many times stronger than your opponent or if you want to become friends with your current enemy. Otherwise it will just ruin your game.
So why would I want to hurt Porto?
Well, firstly, I got dowed twice by Porto last session, lost three very good provs to Sweden, not to mention that he only attacked my colonies in both wars and simply disregarded anything of my allies. So I feel that I'm being picked on during those wars.
Secondly, Porto let me down when we were allied, forcing me to cede most of my NA to England. "But Spain threatened" is so lousy excuse, because it wasn't like Breit would really have warred you.
Thirdly, I have noted that whenever one wins a war, there will be a rematch and one's enemy wants many times what you took in the first place. This always happens. Even Hive did so. So why the damn I should not do so?
If Seen wants to quit, he may. We will be needing new Porto and I doubt it's gonna be a fun position, because I will not lower my demands even if player changes. Any kind of lenitence is good only if you are many times stronger than your opponent or if you want to become friends with your current enemy. Otherwise it will just ruin your game.
Seen said:
It wouldnt be in no way political peace but peace of intimidation because of quitting. Maybe this is better way to but it.
France will teach Portugal the hard lesson of being stubborn too long time and so walking past easy peace.
Byakhiam said:
Me taking those provinces from you had little to do with you taking 1 TP from me. I would have tried to take those provinces from you at some point regardless.
World Conqueror said:
No. If I had found a new perm, I would have posted it. Don't you think?
World Conqueror said:post Nr 1000
i got warned for posts like that..
As for you quitters, you are behaving like children please remember this is just a game it doesn't really matter if your country gets owned by someone else. so if you want to be an OE vassal just pm me.
azid said:
A swede from Örebro! (just like me)....first one ive seen on forum besides me....