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Seen said:
You will notice that its pretty crowded there as well ....

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Not to mention Portugese intrest which are also spains intrest, so be carefull again filthy protestant scum that you are...One Crown, One Kingdom!

Reformed and Catholic beliefs are the religions liked by the spanish, strickt and very busness like :)

Protestants are also accepted, if they do not harras Catholics or Reformed. :)

But the AngloSaxon Devils who marry 6 women, and murder them at will shall not be tolerated !
 

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The King also wishes to state that any attack on Venitian OR Dutch North America, is an attack on the King of Spain!
 

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Hive said:
England would love to negotiate, but already fear that it would be a lost cause due to previous statements from the Venetian foreign department.

And it's silly that people are just letting the Iberians colonize half the world themselves like this, and thus virtually decide all colonial matters...

Oh yes Hive, "I" colonize half of the world like that, I just let The dutch and the Venitians take parts of "my" claimed terretory.

All "you" are doing is complaining some took some of NA, wich you obviously wanted for yourself. ;)
 

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Adam Breit said:
All "you" are doing is complaining some took some of NA, wich you obviously wanted for yourself. ;)

I took some of SA, you and Portugal complained. How is that any different?

Well let me tell you one significant difference: I do not claim land elsewhere, while Portugal claim a lot of land in both SA and Asia, as well as ALL of Africa.. :eek:
 

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Adam Breit said:
The King also wishes to state that any attack on Venitian OR Dutch North America, is an attack on the King of Spain!

Oh I won't attack them, I still aim to solve this diplomatically.

If I catch them online on icq, that is... JTU, could you please accept my request to add you to my contact list?
 

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Hive said:
I took some of SA, you and Portugal complained. How is that any different?

Well let me tell you one significant difference: I do not claim land elsewhere, while Portugal claim a lot of land in both SA and Asia, as well as ALL of Africa.. :eek:

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Adam Breit said:
sry

kayport

kaput

Something tells me that this is not a proper way to talk between rulers and king. Kaput? Those are actually the words of the king of Spain?
 

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arcorelli said:
Something tells me that this is not a proper way to talk between rulers and king. Kaput? Those are actually the words of the king of Spain?

taim

you

rrrrrrr

:(
 

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Hive said:
I took some of SA, you and Portugal complained. How is that any different?

Well let me tell you one significant difference: I do not claim land elsewhere, while Portugal claim a lot of land in both SA and Asia, as well as ALL of Africa.. :eek:
Well, i dont know what OUR beloved king is saying (one crown blabla), but my guess is, porto is spain, so spain will even defend porto's claims EVEN more than NL and venice ones.

Speaking as mere advisor for the king, Porto hasnt claimed ALL of africa, wowm not even close!!! Porto has all the territorry it wants there, as putted earlier! So colonise away evil heretic!

Claimed Asia yes, got it? No...Darn 40 min (yes im still pissed) AI lost me my ONLY explorer for proper use for the next !80! YEARS!!! :mad: So, Porto is seriously Disadvanteged

England, even with its poor health explorers, can see more :(
 

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Adam Breit said:
Sure, The evil that

1:Allows

-Venice to have a COT in South america and 8 colonies. :)
-Neth(COT hopefully) And port(COT) to have colonies in the papal claimed land.

2:Gives

-Netherlands and Venice and Austria money, for no benifit of mine. :)
-Austria and Venice Land, without asking anything in return.

The English king wanted NA all for himself, we simply "encouraged" some to take some of NA themselves.

As we encouraged Venice to take land in South america aswell :).

1) Venice have 8 colonies in all of huge SA while Spain is actually the largest nation in NA allso and keep saying how England is the one trying to take it all for himself :eek:.

We all know what happened to english colonies in SA the moment Spain decided they no more are wellcome to share it with them as they dont need to share nothing its only others who are requested to do it ;).

Add the Portugals modest plan of owning allmoust all far east and its COT:s to this yes arent the iberians generous they offer only poor areas of conflict to others forcing them to come their slaves.

And best part is when ever they decide now we no more need them they can simply take away what the have so generously given. As they make sure they never offer enought to anybody so they could actually come real colonial power they just offer crumps that should make everybody see how virtuous and generous they are while they take every fat and rich part for themself.

The only argument Iberians have is they allow others to take the poor parts when in truth they just want nation they can use for their pleasure as puppets and make them blind to the truth of greedy iberians.

2) I think the translation would be buys hearts of other nations with spanish wealth to make them spanish puppets ;).

Give land actually returned Austrian land to Austria and gives Italian land previously french to Venice that Spain originally planned to give Venice by calling Venice in war against France to get it. When let see who took Italian land from Venice earlier might this be desperate attempt to bribe Venice forget past.


Maybe Spain shows some real genorisity and gives 1/2 caribean away as we all know how mutch Spain hates monopoliced areas :D.

And stops supportting Portugals plan to monopolice all far east COT:s as thats obviously against spanish princible of monopolicing areas too ;).
 
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Ahem, conventions of conscience force me to counter some of these Spanish claims:

"2:Gives

-Netherlands and Venice and Austria money, for no benifit of mine."

Venice has never recieved any money from the Spanish government, though it's possible that a gift could go unnoticed, and, if so, The Doge politely asks the King to provide him with the ledger for his viewing satisfaction.

"-Austria and Venice Land, without asking anything in return."

...Only to, at other times, press unbacked claims over Venetian lands and use threats, bullying, and extortion to that end.
 

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Seen said:
Claimed Asia yes, got it? No...Darn 40 min (yes im still pissed) AI lost me my ONLY explorer for proper use for the next !80! YEARS!!! :mad: So, Porto is seriously Disadvanteged

Actually Portugal only claimed Asia after France had allready made colony there after being told years ago to go somewhere else after France colonizing south africa.

And everytime Portugal talks with France you talk like its my fault you were ai and dont have maps of all east. Well to Portugal knowledge its in no bloody way my fault Portugal was ai and France was able to explore indonesia :mad:.

You allso every time we alk tell how you could have coloniced it all well then why didnt you colonice even Jakarta as higher priority when there was even Portugals conqistador standing there years. As when France coloniced Jakarta Portugal had no more been ai for some time you know as you whined to France long before that for colonizing south africa and ordered to go else where.
 
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BlkbrryTheGreat said:
How about a screenshot of Europe for those of us on the sideline?

ScreenSave76.jpg


And no, I dont got anything better to do :D
 

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Just Too Uber said:
Ahem, conventions of conscience force me to counter some of these Spanish claims:

"2:Gives

-Netherlands and Venice and Austria money, for no benifit of mine."

Venice has never recieved any money from the Spanish government, though it's possible that a gift could go unnoticed, and, if so, The Doge politely asks the King to provide him with the ledger for his viewing satisfaction.

"-Austria and Venice Land, without asking anything in return."

...Only to, at other times, press unbacked claims over Venetian lands and use threats, bullying, and extortion to that end.

I did give you money, tough I never always tell ppl, because I'm getting crazy about all the PM "on-offs". :wacko:

(I HAVE a NEW keyboard :D )

And, I only want corsica and papal states as vassals, not that uber evil aye ?.
 

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Rezag said:
1) Venice have 8 colonies in all of huge SA while Spain is actually the largest nation in NA allso and keep saying how England is the one trying to take it all for himself :eek:.

We all know what happened to english colonies in SA the moment Spain decided they no more are wellcome to share it with them as they dont need to share nothing its only others who are requested to do it ;).

Add the Portugals modest plan of owning allmoust all far east and its COT:s to this yes arent the iberians generous they offer only poor areas of conflict to others forcing them to come their slaves.

And best part is when ever they decide now we no more need them they can simply take away what the have so generously given. As they make sure they never offer enought to anybody so they could actually come real colonial power they just offer crumps that should make everybody see how virtuous and generous they are while they take every fat and rich part for themself.

The only argument Iberians have is they allow others to take the poor parts when in truth they just want nation they can use for their pleasure as puppets and make them blind to the truth of greedy iberians.

2) I think the translation would be buys hearts of other nations with spanish wealth to make them spanish puppets ;).

Give land actually returned Austrian land to Austria and gives Italian land previously french to Venice that Spain originally planned to give Venice by calling Venice in war against France to get it. When let see who took Italian land from Venice earlier might this be desperate attempt to bribe Venice forget past.


Maybe Spain shows some real genorisity and gives 1/2 caribean away as we all know how mutch Spain hates monopoliced areas :D.

And stops supportting Portugals plan to monopolice all far east COT:s as thats obviously against spanish princible of monopolicing areas too ;).

1: South america HAS way poorer and WAY less provinces then NA, AFAIK.
2: Portugal's claims and diplomacy is not the spanish diplomacy.
3: Venician land, and french and spanish lands were agreed upon with the Venitian Doge, I would help him to get french Italy, and I have.
4: The carrabean is much more vunourable then an NA wich would be all English.