Europe Ruined 2

[Chaingun]

Good session today... I'm reeeeally sorry for my connection
Hopefully, only hopefully, we'll have the walls painted at Wed, and get the phone cable guys here the day after, but nothing is certain yet

Anyway. Here goes todays edits

1. Tenochtitlan to Portugal
2. Zimbabwe from Portugal

Henry will confirm

So you're both willing to take 1 stab hit? (Remember you only get 1 free province swap per session.)

 

[unmerged(9404)]

Are we gonaa have a Netherlands in this game?

I'm for it, it usually adds some spice to the game

 

[unmerged(30948)]

Screenshot of Europe in 1533

As usual, before the end, I made the screenshot to look after the session.

 

[Van Engel]

So you're both willing to take 1 stab hit? (Remember you only get 1 free province swap per session.)

Didn't realize we would have to take a stabhit. o I'll need to talk to flamey again then.

About the AAR I'll try and get some kinda post up for the session when I wasn't here, it will most likely be game notes though.

 

[unmerged(21697)]

Sorry for leaving, but the total disorder made me impatient. In the first 2 hours we made like 5 years

 

[unmerged(17489)]

So you're both willing to take 1 stab hit? (Remember you only get 1 free province swap per session.)

I thought it was per country?

 

[unmerged(11216)]

What, France got beaten?!

 

[unmerged(17489)]

What, France got beaten?!

he dowed me when I invaded Mexico with Hernan Cortez. I got all of Mexico and he got Sardinia and Rouss

 

[unmerged(11216)]

he dowed me when I invaded Mexico with Hernan Cortez. I got all of Mexico and he got Sardinia and Rouss

Talk about rip off, I would had raped Spain for that, I meen Sardinia and Roussilon for Mexico? Bah.

 

[Chaingun]

I thought it was per country?

"Also, this rule is applied to each of the participants in the province transaction."

This means you cannot say that Portugal isn't involved is Spain decides to transfer one province to Portugal etc.

 

[unmerged(17489)]

Talk about rip off, I would had raped Spain for that, I meen Sardinia and Roussilon for Mexico? Bah.

there is a province rule

 

[unmerged(17489)]

"Also, this rule is applied to each of the participants in the province transaction."

This means you cannot say that Portugal isn't involved is Spain decides to transfer one province to Portugal etc.

I thought that meant that Portugal could swap one province, and Spain could do one since it applies once for each country in the transaction???
Otherwise, it's quite ridicolous, say I pay France to give Austria a province, then I, nor France or Austria (or any other country involved) do any other deals until next rehost?

 

[unmerged(11216)]

there is a province rule

Easy, demand 3 provinces+vassaliation+insane ammount of cash. Loosing Mexico cant really be repayed.

 

[Lord Ederon]

Easy, demand 3 provinces+vassaliation+insane ammount of cash. Loosing Mexico cant really be repayed.

Live and let live. That's prolly strategy of Ironfoundersson.

 

[unmerged(17489)]

Easy, demand 3 provinces+vassaliation+insane ammount of cash. Loosing Mexico cant really be repayed.

I wouldnt accept that
I could easily hold my colonial empire and a core, and France was at -3 stab, so France would go down in ruins. England was about to dow when the sub left and went AI.
About that is it possible I can get my 200 back?

 

[unmerged(11216)]

I wouldnt accept that
I could easily hold my colonial empire and a core, and France was at -3 stab, so France would go down in ruins. England was about to dow when the sub left and went AI.
About that is it possible I can get my 200 back?

Im just saying what I would do

 

[unmerged(17489)]

Im just saying what I would do

and I'm sayíng what I would do if you did what you would do
I think GM would have to enforce a peace deal, not far from the one me and ironf agreed upon now

 

[unmerged(11216)]

and I'm sayíng what I would do if you did what you would do
I think GM would have to enforce a peace deal, not far from the one me and ironf agreed upon now

I wouldnt had got -3 stab in the first place

 

[Chaingun]

The reason to why that rule is the way it is (though I apparently must edit it to make it more clear ), is to limit the total amount of province swaps in the game. In some games it has been quite common to have the colonial countries constantly exchange big numbers of colonies. If I would interpret the rule as you did, it would effectively mean a doubling in the possible province transfers. Eg. in sense that you can trade 2x the provinces at the same cost by saying Country A gives these provinces to B, and country B give some other provinces to A. It should be interpreted as the total amount of all provinces transferred between two countries and the counts are the placed on each country.

A rather complex example to finalize the true interpretation of this rule:

Spain gives 3 provinces to France.
France gives one province to Austria.

Spain's count: 3
France's count: 3 + 1 = 4 (losing a province still counts as a transfer)
Austria's count: 1

This means Spain loses 1 stab, France 2 stab and Austria none.

 

[Lord Ederon]

Are we gonaa have a Netherlands in this game?

I'm for it, it usually adds some spice to the game

What would Austria have from releasing Netherlands? They won't remain vassalized for long, everybody would encourage them to break vassalization and support them in eventual fight with Austria...