Is it the absolute price tag of 20 or the value for money that you're referring to? If the latter, what could we have added to make you happy?
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The AI is so much better now. In an easy ru through as France, Provence allies with England early and their tactics are now much stronger. Or I'm drunk
Great! I just updated the game, I play it and "call to arms" doesn't work any more. I call my allies to a war I declare but no one joins and it just says "active call to arms in progress" or something so I can't call them any more. Bug? Anyone has a solution?
I cant determine the value for money before i have played it so yes, its the total sum,, which doesnt even include music or other art.
I am willing to believe you add a lot in this dlc. However, I dont believe it is so much it justifies the price tag of 50% of the base game, especially if you look at how many dlc there already has been. And even more if you look at the steam reviews for Mare nostrum. Number 1 complaint? it was too expensive for what it is. And now the new dlc is even more expensive, while the previous dlc hasnt even been on a decent sale. That doesnt make it look like you listen to the audience. Except maybe the youtube audience who happily buy every dlc that releases and goes crazy about it
I happy support developpers who I think do a great job. But this price policy of €15-20 every three months is pushing people to the grey market for a product that, again according to the steam reviews, diminishes in quality (90% rating for EU4, 49% for Cossacks, 48% for mare nostrum). When friends ask me they should get CK2 or EU4, I can not justify it anymore
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I regret to say that but I did not buy the Mare Nostrum DLCs and I won't buy this new batch of DLCs. I bought many, many DLCs for EU4 (and CKII, as a matter of fact). Some DLCs I thought were good or very good, some of them were "meh", as for the others I simply regret buying them. Speaking of major ones (expansions), I only regret buying "The Cossacks", but I now feel that even if I highly appreciate Paradox Interactive's work most of the time, the DLC policy is something to complain about. Many, many DLCs, high prices, and sometimes little content. You pay for an incredible game at a reasonable price, and, of course, you get interested in the DLCs. Then you buy DLCs, and you realize that, compared to the price of the base game, their price is sometimes unreasonably high if you think about the content they offer. Not to mention the fact that they break the EU4 content into dozens of (sometimes very little) pieces, like the "national monuments" DLC or the "look, nice costumes for the Indian guys" DLC.
The base game was so much FUN that sometimes I wonder, "why did I have to buy so many DLCs ?". I guess I did it because I loved (and still love) the game, and I wanted to support Paradox's work. Now I'm just perplexed.
And I know you are going to talk about the patches. Well, thanks for the patches, even if, as a matter of fact, some patches clearly changed the game experience without the players being asked if they would like that. But you have to wonder, with so many patches and DLCs... even if it's great that the game is alive and updated...is all of this coherent ?
P.S : sorry for my bad English, and sorry if I have a bitter tone.
The base game was so much FUN that sometimes I wonder, "why did I have to buy so many DLCs ?". I guess I did it because I loved (and still love) the game, and I wanted to support Paradox's work. Now I'm just perplexed.
And I know you are going to talk about the patches. Well, thanks for the patches, even if, as a matter of fact, some patches clearly changed the game experience without the players being asked if they would like that. But you have to wonder, with so many patches and DLCs... even if it's great that the game is alive and updated...is all of this coherent ?
P.S : sorry for my bad English, and sorry if I have a bitter tone.
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Three attempts at an Idea Guy game, three crashes to desktop before 1455
Hoping for a quick hotfix because I really want to play and explore all the fun new stuff!
Tribute:
Finally, after Mare Nostrum bullshit, Paradox released something nice. Orthodox bonuses were really bad and it's good that you removed tax penalty. Queens, leader traits, there is not much I can say, Rights of Man totally re-created the game and it's amazing. There are bugs but they will be fixed with a quick-patch as always.
Criticism:
I know that your policy is "Make something easier, and make something harder" but it does not work all the time, aggressive expansion was already really high, and you made it even higher. Annexing Byzantium as Ottomans creates a major coalition risk, I've taken 5 underdeveloped provinces from Tunis as Aragon, and aggressive expansion was crazy. Old calculation was not really good, but much better than that.
Decreased Development in Eastern Europe, that's ridicilous. I actually expected you to increase development in Eastern Europe, yes Eastern European countries re not much developed countries today but there wasn't a major difference between Western and Eastern Europe those days. Soyo (Kongo) is 11 development, and former capital of Kyivan Rus' empire, where the best academy of the enlightenment age in Eastern Europe located, golden apple of Russian Tsardom is 10 development. That's ri-di-ci-lous. Most of Eastern European countries were on the verge of economic collapse because of underdevelopment, and you decreased development points.
If we ignore those 2 major problems, (we shouldn't) th patch and the DLC is totally perfect.
Thank you.
Finally, after Mare Nostrum bullshit, Paradox released something nice. Orthodox bonuses were really bad and it's good that you removed tax penalty. Queens, leader traits, there is not much I can say, Rights of Man totally re-created the game and it's amazing. There are bugs but they will be fixed with a quick-patch as always.
Criticism:
I know that your policy is "Make something easier, and make something harder" but it does not work all the time, aggressive expansion was already really high, and you made it even higher. Annexing Byzantium as Ottomans creates a major coalition risk, I've taken 5 underdeveloped provinces from Tunis as Aragon, and aggressive expansion was crazy. Old calculation was not really good, but much better than that.
Decreased Development in Eastern Europe, that's ridicilous. I actually expected you to increase development in Eastern Europe, yes Eastern European countries re not much developed countries today but there wasn't a major difference between Western and Eastern Europe those days. Soyo (Kongo) is 11 development, and former capital of Kyivan Rus' empire, where the best academy of the enlightenment age in Eastern Europe located, golden apple of Russian Tsardom is 10 development. That's ri-di-ci-lous. Most of Eastern European countries were on the verge of economic collapse because of underdevelopment, and you decreased development points.
If we ignore those 2 major problems, (we shouldn't) th patch and the DLC is totally perfect.
Thank you.
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Europa Universalis IV a Game so sensational, now has a new version, I can not wait to play
Managed to get Rights of Man Collection and Songs of Regency DLC for £16.50 from GMG.
They have nice discounts for the DLC and I was able to add another 5% off with a promo code "VIP5", just letting you all know if you're finding the base price on Steam and Paradox Store too expensive. Keep in mind if you're buying it this way, Paradox get a lesser share from the purchase.
They have nice discounts for the DLC and I was able to add another 5% off with a promo code "VIP5", just letting you all know if you're finding the base price on Steam and Paradox Store too expensive. Keep in mind if you're buying it this way, Paradox get a lesser share from the purchase.
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Thank you for your true effort Paradox. Your work will be remembered in history due to its greatness, godspeed.
To be honest prices doesn't mean very much to me thanks to steam discounts, I can wait for christmas . But some people, including me, can't afford to spent 20 € on single dlc. Some of them will wait, some will download it illegally. Also, those content packs seems to be a bit overpriced like for a few unit models. Don't get my wrong, I'm so hyped for this expansion, but i think it's unreasonable to buy it right now. When You were releasing The Cossacks i was so hyped i bought it a week later despite i was broke . But please, don't turn to be another EA (still far from them).
. But some people, including me, can't afford to spent 20 € on single dlc. Some of them will wait, some will download it illegally. Also, those content packs seems to be a bit overpriced like for a few unit models. Don't get my wrong, I'm so hyped for this expansion, but i think it's unreasonable to buy it right now. When You were releasing The Cossacks i was so hyped i bought it a week later despite i was broke . But please, don't turn to be another EA (still far from them).- 4
Really? Bigger than the one that came with Art of War (1.8 I think)? I have to disagree, that patch overhauled rebels/revolt risk, trade, College of Cardinals, and the Reformation. That's 4 major systems overhauled. And on top of that, the patch added a massive amount of new provinces and tags. This patch may be large, but I don't think it's the biggest
Really? Bigger than the one that came with Art of War (1.8 I think)? I have to disagree, that patch overhauled rebels/revolt risk, trade, College of Cardinals, and the Reformation. That's 4 major systems overhauled. And on top of that, the patch added a massive amount of new provinces and tags. This patch may be large, but I don't think it's the biggest
>May be
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Just got it, plus all the previous content packs that I didn't already have (many of which were 66% off on Steam).
Going to start an Ottomans game to try out new features, then on to a couple of serious runs with Ethiopia and Prussia. May also do a long desired "This is Sparta!" custom nation run.
Many thanks, PDS. I'm sorted for the next half year at least.
Going to start an Ottomans game to try out new features, then on to a couple of serious runs with Ethiopia and Prussia. May also do a long desired "This is Sparta!" custom nation run.
Many thanks, PDS. I'm sorted for the next half year at least.
Dear PI,
After experimenting with the new mechanics for a few hours now.. I gotta say;
Congratulations on your best DLC! Removing tech groups and adding institutions was a step in the right direction!
Please keep up with this quality in your future releases. Now excuse me.. I'm diving back to the game!
After experimenting with the new mechanics for a few hours now.. I gotta say;
Congratulations on your best DLC! Removing tech groups and adding institutions was a step in the right direction!
Please keep up with this quality in your future releases. Now excuse me.. I'm diving back to the game!
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Much excitement . Looking forward to giving this a good run (am playing a game of CK2 and converting it into EU4 to give that a crack as well).
. Looking forward to giving this a good run (am playing a game of CK2 and converting it into EU4 to give that a crack as well).- 1
I have a very strange and irritating difference since the update/patch/DLC:
when I enter combat with an army that has weakened regiments the weakest ones will get deployed in the center of the army while the strongest are at the flank or even behind if I have too many troops.
I'm pretty sure it was the other way around before the update and it also makes no sense at all for a commander to deploy the weakest troops in the area that will need to hold the longest and will get the most beating. The only way around would be to not engage with weak regiments and sort them all out before going into a battle - but this seems really excessive to me and sometimes impossible. (for example when your army is getting caught by anothe one and you don't have the chance to leave some of your troops behind.)
when I enter combat with an army that has weakened regiments the weakest ones will get deployed in the center of the army while the strongest are at the flank or even behind if I have too many troops.
I'm pretty sure it was the other way around before the update and it also makes no sense at all for a commander to deploy the weakest troops in the area that will need to hold the longest and will get the most beating. The only way around would be to not engage with weak regiments and sort them all out before going into a battle - but this seems really excessive to me and sometimes impossible. (for example when your army is getting caught by anothe one and you don't have the chance to leave some of your troops behind.)
