Europa Universalis IV: Developer diary 30 - Four more countries and even more..

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Welcome to the 30th development diary of Europa Universalis IV. Today we take a look at four rather different countries in the middle east.

All of them are what we call tier3 nations, which means they have a unique set of ideas, and about a dozen historical events.

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The Mamelukes
This state controls Egypt and Syria at the start of the game, but was historically conquered by the Ottomans in the 16th century. They are Sunni and has an Iqta government. The Mamelukes sit on the main tradenodes directing trade from India and China to Europe.

They start with +25% Trade Steering, and +10% Cavalry Power.
  1. Red Sea Trade: +5% Trade Power & +10% Trade Range.
  2. Monument to Greatness: +1 Yearly Prestige
  3. Purchase of Mamelukes: +20% Manpower Recovery.
  4. Army Reform: +5% Discipline
  5. Reformed Fellah System: +20% Production Efficiency
  6. Reformed Succession: -20% Stability Costs
  7. Monopoly Ports: +10% Trade Efficiency
When fully powered up, The Mamelukes get +25% Trade Income, turning them into a country with a big trade focus together with a strong military.

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Persia
The state of Persia was formed in the early 16th century. Persia is a Shiite Theocracy in the game.

Persia starts with +10% Vassal Income, and an extra 5% in Army Morale Recovery.
  1. The Qizibash: +15% Manpower.
  2. Persian Rug Production: +10% Production Efficiency
  3. The Ghulams: +10% Discipline
  4. Improved Silk Road: +10% Trade Steering
  5. Encouraged Art: +1 Yearly Prestige & +5% Production Efficiency
  6. Promotion of Irrigation: +10% Manpower Recovery
  7. Increased Crown Lands: +10% Tax Income.
When they have all their ideas, Persia gets a 10% decrease of Cavalry Cost.

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The Timurids
In 1444 Timur Lenk is long dead, but the remnants of his empire still controls the persian heartland. They are a Sunni Steppe Horde. They share their ideagroup with the Mughal Empire which they can form when they have taken control of northern India.

They start with 25% cheaper cores, and a significant +10% monthly morale recovery of armies.
  1. Timurid Architecture: 2% lower Prestige Decay
  2. Mantle of the Great Khan: +20% Cavalry Power
  3. Unleash the Tiger: -3 Max War Exhaustion
  4. Elephant Warfare: -25% Land Attrition
  5. Tolerate Idol Worshippers: +2 Tolerance for Heathens
  6. Salaries Officials: -20% Stability Cost
  7. Largest Mosque in the World: +1 Yearly Prestige
When they get all ideas, they get a +5% to discipline.


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Oman
Oman is the Portugal of the Muslim world. Positioned at the edge, and able to control the trade from India. They are a shiite despotic monarchy in 1444.

Oman starts with +0.5 to Naval Morale, and a -50% to Naval Maintenance.
  1. Local Merchant Preference: +33% Trade Steering
  2. Secured Timber Supplies: 10% Faster Ship Building
  3. Association with Unbelivers: +2% Tolerance of Heathern
  4. Port Security Improvements: +10% Trade Income.
  5. End of Shipbuilding Guilds: 20% cheaper Light Ships.
  6. Skilled Captains: +2 Naval Manuever.
  7. Expansion of Trade Contacts: +1 Merchant
When they have all their ideas, they get 33% Blockade Efficiency, making Oman into a formidable Naval and Trade power.


Religions and Governments

Sunni
  • +1 Tolerance to Own
  • +100% Chance of new Heir
Shiite
  • +0.25 Land Morale
  • +100% Chance of new Heir
Steppe Horde
  • +100% Manpower
  • +100% Land Force Limit
  • -50% Relations Change
Iqta
  • +33% Vassal Income
  • +100% Chance of new Heir
Theocracy
  • Tolerance to Own +2
  • Tolerance to Heretic -2
  • +0.1 Papal Influence (if catholic)
Despotic Monarchy
Can switch to other monarchies freely.
  • 10% Cheaper Core Creation
  • 10% Cheaper Unjustified Demands


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Wow, randomly check for a new update, and one was posted 5 minutes ago!

This one is a lot less wordy, all there really is, is a bunch of statistics.

EDIT: Typos?

There are also other
... Other what?

The Mamlukes where conquered by the Ottomans, not the Mamlukes...

+2% Tolerance of Heathern
Heathern? Extra r in there. Also, I don't think tolerance is normally a percentage.
 
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Nice. We already had seen all the MAM ideas but the others are new.

Oman seems like an interesting state to play now. I dont think Ive ever played Oman in Eu3.

Liking the religious bonuses. Hordes' are especially fitting.

Anndddd now I can go to bed :D
 

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Can you form Egypt?

And it is Qızılbahşı.

Well, the Mamluks already do kind of control, and are based in Egypt... Though, quite a few people have been suggesting that in such cases, the nation should display the dynasty name, and when it becomes a Republic, it uses the name of the nation, so if the Mamluks had a republican revolution, it could display as 'Egypt.'
 

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How are the Persians spawned, if you start in 1444? Will we get to see them in every game, and will they be an actual threat, to an Ottoman player?

Likely due to the cores inside the Timurid provinces. In EU3, when the Timurids break apart (They tend to be much less stable, when compared to the Golden Horde,) Persia tends to form due to the nationalist rebels.
 

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What's the difference between +2 and +2% tolerance of the heathens (TIMMEH's v Oman's ideas?)
 

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Likely due to the cores inside the Timurid provinces. In EU3, when the Timurids break apart (They tend to be much less stable, when compared to the Golden Horde,) Persia tends to form due to the nationalist rebels.

Ya but this is 1444, completely different situation, especially as the Timurds are in full retreat. How do the Persians spawn; and how often are we going to see them?
 

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Paradox, what do you mean by Iqta? AFAIK Iqta (اقطاع) is just the Arabic word for Feudalism. Why have a different term / gameplay element? And if so, why don't other Muslim monarchies have it?
 

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Oman sounds really intresting
 

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Until this DD, I wasn't thinking about playing as Oman. "Portugal of the Muslim World" looks really interesting. And it will be really fun when fighting aganist Portugal at Red Sea and India.
 

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Does +100% chance of new heir mean you are guaranteed an heir?
 

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The Mamelukes look to have truly awesome trade ideas... I bet lots of people will be supporting attempts to wipe them out, if only to make their life easier.

Of course the comparison with Burgundy/Netherlands may be unfair... but they get more trade steering and trade income than either, and get both!