Europa Universalis IV: Developer diary 28 - A Kinderegg! Three in one!

Europa Universalis IV: Developer diary 28 - A Kinderegg! Three in one!

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Welcome to the 28th development diary for Europa Universalis IV and today we’ve got lots of variety for you - three different subjects. We look at two smaller European countries, each quite different from the other, and then we look into what’s changed with one of the most important events in the game - the Reformation.

Scotland
Scotland has an outsized importance in history considering its meager geography and wealth because of its location. After breaking free from English rule in the 14th century, Scotland was a constant thorn in the side of her larger southern neighbor, and, until the kingdoms were united again under the Stuart dynasty, the Scots were an essential ally for any continental power that wanted to threaten the English. Even after union, Scottish rebels and dissenters could be counted on to counter the throne in London.

Scotland starts the game in an enviable position, actually. England is deeply immersed in a costly and bloody war in France, and so long as England is occupied on the continent, Scotland has opportunities for expansion in Ireland, the Orkneys or even northern England. Her hilly terrain is friendly to cheap infantry armies, so a defensive footing isn’t a bad idea if the English or Norwegians get aggressive.

Scotland is narrow, as well, so a large army can stand in the bottleneck and preserve some territory. On the downside, it’s all coastline so it will need some way to protect its shores. Do you cozy up to the Royal Navy of England or try to build your own?

Scotland has a few historical events, including ones connected to the Auld Alliance with France (a reliable partner), and about John Knox, the great Presbyterian reformer.

National Ideas
Scotland starts with +1 leader shock, and +5% to morale recovery on armies. (which is rather awesome, as default is 15%) as traits.
  1. Break the Black Douglas: -1 Revolt Risk: A prominent noble clan of Scotland, the Douglases used their record during the battle for independence to challenge the power of the Scottish throne. When their power became inconvenient, seizures and murders settled the issue in favour of the king.
  2. Modernised Royal Scots Navy: -10% Ship Cost.: The Royal Scots Navy underwent a great expansion in the 15th century under the guidance of Kings James III and James IV. Scottish ships harassed Tudor trade lanes throughout their reigns.
  3. Reined in Clans: +20% Manpower: Limiting the power of the Scottish clans to act as alternate authorities to the royal house allowed the king greater freedom of movement in caling up men.
  4. Comets?: -10% stability cost: There is no reason to fear these heavenly objects.
  5. Royal Revenue: +10% Tax Income: Decline in the lands and assets available to the throne led to new and more regular taxation through the 17th century.
  6. Basilikon Doron: +1 Legitimacy: This 'Royal Gift' from James VI to his sons was a guidebook on how to be a good king. Unlike Machiavelli’s more cynical 'The Prince', the 'Doron' emphasized Christian virtues and choosing capable advisors.
  7. Act of Revocation: -20% cheaper cores.: To further centralize royal power, the kings of Scotland occasionally has to reclaim lands that had been parceled out to nobles while the crown was in the hands of weak regents.
When Scotland gets all their ideas, they get 25% cheaper land maintenance.

With these ideas, Scotland is a flexible country. Early on, it relies on strong leaders and morale, enhanced by extra manpower. If they survive long enough, Scotland will have the wealth and stable monarchy that may allow expanding in Britain.




The Hansa
Ah, the Hansa. The country that isn’t really. To speak of the Hansa as a nation is a fudge in the game, since it was actually a very powerful trading league. But the close relationship between some of the northern German cities in the league at this time justifies giving them their due as more than single cities united in alliance.

Founded in the 13th century, the Hansa dominated Baltic and North Sea trade for centuries. Based in Lubeck, it eventually had ports of call as far east as Livonia and far west as England. Though the cities were all independent and free, they acted as a commercial cooperative whose collective power of negotiation made them a political and military power as well. Eventually, their ports in foreign lands were squeezed out by local competition and new regulations. For you to avoid that fate, you’ll need to understand the trade map.

The Hansa starts with the cities of Lübeck, Bremen & Hamburg – three major German ports, As a merchant republic, they get one extra merchant to assign. Lübeck is the name of their home trade node, and it contains most of northern Germany and southwestern Scandinavia.

But the real power lies in the traffic that passes through. There are trade links through Lübeck coming from Wien, Frankfurt, Baltic Sea and the North Sea. Trade only leaves Lübeck through Antwerp. This means that a Hanseatic Player can control the trade in Eastern Europe if you so desire, by just dominating all nodes that feed into your home port. Or, if you’re ambitious enough, you can attempt to take part of the North American trade by steering it through the North Sea and into Lübeck.


There are a few historical events for the Hansa, many focused around their most famous traders.

National Ideas
The Hansa starts with +15% on trade range and +10% Trade Steering, making them better able to control the Baltic trade with their ships.
  1. End of Victual Brothers: +10% Trade Power.: The Victual Brothers were notorious Baltic pirates of the early 1400s. Them and their descendants hassled trade ships and raided port towns until they were finally destroyed.
  2. Strong League Obligations: +1 Merchant: The Hansa was more powerful when it could convince its member cities to act in union.
  3. Hanseatic Shipbuilding: -20% cheaper light ships.: The light ships of the Hansa will be essential for protecting whatever trade lanes you manage to dominate.
  4. Reformed Hansetag: -10% Stability Cost.: The Hansetag was a League parliament of city representatives that met irregularly in Lubeck. Its decisions were not binding.
  5. Hanseatic Levy System: +20% Manpower Recovery Speed.: Free cities full of capable young men, and all the gold you need to keep them fed.
  6. Regularised Contribution: +20% Provincial Trade Power: Once expectations are in place for member cities, it is easier to plan the trade routes and commitments of each member.
  7. The Hansa Bank: -1 Interest.: Though the Hanseatic League never established a banking system to compete with those in Bruges or Amsterdam, the capital was certainly there. And imagine if they had…

When fully powered up, the Hansa gets +10% trade efficiency.

This means that the Hansa are an extremely trade oriented nation – probably the most trade heavy of any state in EU4. They should be able to control the Baltic trade easily – if these three small cities can survive.

The Reformation
The Reformation is one of the central events in European history, and, necessarily, in Europa Universalis IV. Through the years of the series, we’ve changed how Protestanism appeared and when. In the first two EU games, it stuck pretty much to its historical place. In EU3 the Reformation was dynamic, and therefore more interesting, but it was also rather hidden. You never knew when an uppity monk would start nailing things to church doors, and you couldn’t do much to stop it.

In EU4, we have made the process more visible to the player, and actually made possible to direct the course of Catholicism and faith within your own country.

The Catholic faith has a concept called Reform Desire, which is shown on the religious screen.* Whenever Catholic countries opt for short-term gains at the expense of the legitimacy of the church in various events and decisions, the Reform Desire slowly rises. This reflects growing disenchantment with Rome and with duplicitous monarchs that claim to be following the word of God.

Protestantism, then, has a chance to appear whenever the Reform Desire is high enough.*Eventually someone is going to push the people too far and the church will be split. So how do you avoid this plague of Protestants from banging on your doors, then? Well, there are several viable ways to keep your country on the Road to Rome.*If youa are the Defender of the Faith, your provinces are less likely to convert. If you join the Counter Reformation (which occurs about 20 years after the Reformation) or picking the Religious Ideas group, you also have fewer things to worry about. And, of course, having cardinals in the curia assures your people that His Holiness knows when they are sleeping and knows when they’re awake.

As with many of the changes to our core systems, the idea is to give players chances to engage with history and become caught in waves of change, but never to leave them with the feeling that there was nothing they could do. If you aren’t worried about your religious unity or a slow and steady alienation from your Catholic neighbors, you can let the Protestants spread. But if you are France and want to keep the religious wars calm or playing a Spain that already has millions of Aztecs to convert, you should have ways of stemming – if not stopping – a Protestant takeover.

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How many more developer diaries will we get?

The changes to reformation sound good.
 

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A Scottish Dev diary?! This has made my week. Love thae fact that smaller European nations are getting so much flavour, this is excellent news. Cannot wait to get my hands on this game!
 

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True, Paradox, the goal (ideal!!) should be to have a unique flavor for each and every nation in EU4! I know it's difficult and it would probably be a hog to balance, but why stop to the major ones? Every nation that has passed from this earth deserves its unique flavor and chance to change the world in our alternate game reality!

Question: what does the man-with-a-pitchfork icon do in that Scottish screenshot? I guess it raises the levies, right?
 
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Another neat dev diary, loved the comets touch.


Also I will be disappointed if there are no jokes about Kindereggs being banned in the US.
 

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What a contrast between the most trade oriented nation and one who has no trade national idea.


Comets?: -10% stability cost: There is no reason to fear these heavenly objects.
Of course one should quote this self derision. Finally a way to fight against this broadly loved event !

And I feared some meager dev diaries when talking about second or third rank countries, but if you put 2 or 3 together, this is a good reading.

About the screenshot :



I can't figure the use of each button.
1 2 3 : Split, detach siege and embark. Same as EU3 I think.
4 5 : no idea.
6 : attach to and follow an allied army ?
7 :merge ? But with only one army selected, it is not likely.
8 9 : no idea
10 : hunt rebel.
11 12 : no idea
13 : delete army
14 : no idea. I thought it was a "select leader" button, but a leader would be more naturrally selected by clicking his name.
15 : deselect, nothing new.

The other figures are quite familiar (moral, strenght, number, name). If someone has some answer to my questions, I would be grateful, because for me a good game has first of all a great interface.
 

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Just a bit odd that the Hansa/Lübeck seems like it could stop direct trade between the North Sea powers (Netherlands/England) and the baltics, but I suppose in-game it could work out that those will try to crush the Hansa and if they succeed, trade will just flow quite freely.

I suppose the Scottish tradition does sound rather powerful if they somehow grow large and mighty, which human players will undoubtedly succeed at at some point.
 

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This more dynamic and active reformation - counter reformation system looks very interesting to me.
 

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The Reformation mechanics seem wonderful. I tip my hat at you, Paradox.

EDIT: Also, Grindipo, 4 probably is the button to create a new army.
 

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I can't figure the use of each button.


1 2 3 : Split, detach siege and embark. Same as EU3 I think.
4 5 : no idea.
6 : attach to and follow an allied army ?
7 :merge ? But with only one army selected, it is not likely.
8 9 : no idea
10 : hunt rebel.
11 12 : no idea
13 : delete army
14 : no idea. I thought it was a "select leader" button, but a leader would be more naturrally selected by clicking his name.
15 : deselect, nothing new.

The other figures are quite familiar (moral, strenght, number, name). If someone has some answer to my questions, I would be grateful, because for me a good game has first of all a great interface.
4 could be split army in half, this looks similar to the button used for the in MotE. No idea for 5

I agree that 10 looks like hunt rebel, which implies that 8 and 9 are some kind of automate function or stance. The layour does look very clean though.
 

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The national ideas look a bit generic to me (after a dozen of DDs for national-specific idea groups), except this one:
4. Comets?: -10% stability cost: There is no reason to fear these heavenly objects.
Does that mean Scotland is immune from "Comet sighted" after picking up this idea?


While Reformation looks promising, the details are not clear enough the judge. Will this Reform Desire become inactive after a certain date? Will it wane over time like prestige, be static like legitimacy, or even gradually intensify? Can being Defender of Faith, embracing Counter-Reformation, having the Religious idea group or a share of cardinals reduce Reform Desire, or they merely reduce the effect of high Reform Desire? I can't tell from the DD, and I hope for an answer.
 

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Does culture still play some role n the Reformation? Or will the Reform Desire start higher in some places? There was a reason the Reformation was more powerfull in the "North" than in the "South".
 

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The Hansa looks great. Huge trade power but not alot of naval muscle to defend it beyond cheaper light ships. It could be challenging and rewarding.

A bit of self-promotion; people who didn't see the live stream yesterday or who want bullet points of the new info it revealed should have a look at this thread, where I posted bullet points of all the useful new stream info, which was several dev diaries worth. There's also a link to watch it if you have a couple hours to spare.
 

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I can't figure the use of each button.
1 2 3 : Split, detach siege and embark. Same as EU3 I think.
4 5 : no idea.
6 : attach to and follow an allied army ?
7 :merge ? But with only one army selected, it is not likely.
8 9 : no idea
10 : hunt rebel.
11 12 : no idea
13 : delete army
14 : no idea. I thought it was a "select leader" button, but a leader would be more naturrally selected by clicking his name.
15 : deselect, nothing new.
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Just a guess:
4 - switch between armies?
5 - upgrade units?
7 - merge (more likely) or make armies appear in given province at similar time
8 - move army faster in expense of bigger attrition/morale/discipline loss?
9 - pillage (burn)?
 

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But the real power lies in the traffic that passes through. There are trade links through Lübeck coming from Wien, Frankfurt, Baltic Sea and the North Sea. Trade only leaves Lübeck through Antwerp. This means that a Hanseatic Player can control the trade in Eastern Europe if you so desire, by just dominating all nodes that feed into your home port. Or, if you’re ambitious enough, you can attempt to take part of the North American trade by steering it through the North Sea and into Lübeck.
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I still don't quite get all this trade steering stuff, trade nodes and direction of trade. Can anyone please explain this to me on this Lubeck example? I mean, how can you attempt to take part of the NA trade by steering it through the north sea into Lubeck? Does that mean that if you put merchants into trade nodes that lie on the way of this NA trade route, capture some adjacent territory and have fleets there, trade from, for example English NA colonies will steer into Lubeck instead of into London or what?
 

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4 could be split army in half, this looks similar to the button used for the in MotE. No idea for 5

I agree that 10 looks like hunt rebel, which implies that 8 and 9 are some kind of automate function or stance. The layour does look very clean though.
Then the foot (8) could be some sort of "marche forcée" (not sure of the english translation), but in 1444 the tech level would be to low to allow it... An EU4 strategic redeployment !

Edit : thanks to Alerias in this post, it is a Forced March feature. It is triggered when all offensive ideas has been researched.
FULL OFFENSIVE UNLOCK BONUS: Can issue Forced March orders: Unit moves 20% faster but slowly consumes MIL POWER. No attrition impact.
The national ideas look a bit generic to me (after a dozen of DDs for national-specific idea groups)
After a while, all NI look the same, it is impossible to create new modifiers. You have % stability cost, number of merchants/diplomats, trade efficiency, manpower, several costs, and so on. But the number of modifier is limited (I guess around 50), therefore all NI groups look like the same.
 
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Does culture still play some role n the Reformation? Or will the Reform Desire start higher in some places? There was a reason the Reformation was more powerfull in the "North" than in the "South".
Scotland has a few historical events, including ones connected to the Auld Alliance with France (a reliable partner), and about John Knox, the great Presbyterian reformer.
This will likely increase Scottish chances of going Protestant and I remember Spain having some pro-Catholic events/ideas as well.
In other words, seems the national events and ideas will increase/decrease the chances of some nations reforming.
 

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Does culture still play some role n the Reformation? Or will the Reform Desire start higher in some places? There was a reason the Reformation was more powerfull in the "North" than in the "South".
Reform desire is common for the entire church.

Yeah, culture affects its creation and spread..