Europa Universalis 3

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Originally posted by HisMajestyBOB
There are no plans for EUIII. Sorry to bust your bubble.

Paradox is making 2 games using the EUII engine, what they are no one knows, but I personally think one will be a Dark Ages/Crusades like game, since the EU engine will work pretty well with that, with a few tweaks, of course.

Yeah, Crusades ROCKS!!

 

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Originally posted by Sinykal20
Sorry if I got your hopes up. This isn't to say that I've heard something about a new game. Rather I wanted to hear some of the ideas that people might have had for a new one. I personally would like to see a game that includes air combat, WW1 and WW2. I'd love to play a game and have a different outcome to one or both of those wars. Play into the twentieth and 21st centuries. I'd like to see the selling of land and things like that. Anyone have any ideas they feel like sharin', feel free! Maybe someone from Paradox will pick up some of these ideas and stick them in the new game, whenever it's to come out.

No thankyou, future sucks. The period from year 1000 ad to 1800 ad is the fun period. If you want air combat, buy Empire Earth!

 

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Originally posted by Carolus Rex


Well, rumours.

I heard rumours about it(they seemed kinda verified) and posted.

They are asking for advice on what the community wants in SR4.

Yeah, and I've heard rumours about Bin Ladin being a woman . Damn, three posts a row and all with stupid comments. Somebody stop me!

 

[jacob-Lundgren]

i would like up to around 1930 and with some tweaks they could imploment some form of air combat maybe fighters protect provences and escourt. 2 bombers strategic and tactical tactical give you like plus 10 firepower or something and strategic bomb and do something like plunder.

 

[Dark Knight]

Wouldn't the simplest answer for what the two new EU-engine games will cover be the Early Middle Ages (Dark Ages) and the Later Middle Ages? After all, this would cover the period between EU and the upcoming Legion (although it isn't the same type of game).

 

[Vinraith]

Originally posted by Carolus Rex


Well, rumours.

I heard rumours about it(they seemed kinda verified) and posted.

They are asking for advice on what the community wants in SR4.

What exactly IS Svea Rike anyway? I haven't been able to find any info about the game that isn't in Swedish, and I gaher none of them were released in NA?

 

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Once again people have confused what I think is a commercially viable option with what I want.

I think that moving into a different market is a commercially good option for the EU engine. Fantasy or SF are obvious areas. I may or may not buy this

I personally want Dark Ages Universalis. With all the tribes moving around europe and invading one another it seems a good time to play.
That I would definately buy!

 

[STGeorge]

NAHHHHHH

ANCIENT WORLD!!!!!

It'll be awesome!!!!!!!!!

 

[King]

Sci-fi. If Paradox took the same approach they did to European history they could produce a ground breacking game. The genre is crying out for a top quality strategy game and Paradox are definiatly the people to do it. On the other hand a game just focusing on the HRE could have a lot of potiential.

 

[STGeorge]

Please not Sci-fi, fantasy yes..........i just dont think the EU engine would work with Sci-fi!!!!!

my humble opinion

 

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Originally posted by Vinraith


What exactly IS Svea Rike anyway? I haven't been able to find any info about the game that isn't in Swedish, and I gaher none of them were released in NA?

Svea Rike is very fun to play.. if you come from denmark/sweden/norway/poland/russia that will say.

 

[King]

Originally posted by STGeorge
Please not Sci-fi, fantasy yes..........i just dont think the EU engine would work with Sci-fi!!!!!

my humble opinion

i think it would work if they went for a sufficently low level of detail. Keep things at the EU level and it could work.

 

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Originally posted by Clemens August


I can't see much evidence for that. History DOES sell. There are tons of fantasy and scifi games, but few grand strategic scale historical games. And this area happens to be Paradox's strength.

I don't need just another scifi game. I picked up Europa Universalis precisely BECAUSE it's in a historical. I wouldn't have touched it otherwise.

Among the non-historical alternative, honestly only a Middle Earth setting would appeal to me (covering not only the War of the Rings). However, licence issues really put an end to this, since Sierra (the owner of the rights, I believe) will surely not allow Paradox to develop such a game. So please no fantasy or scifi!

I want historical settings. If Paradox insists on doing a non-historical game, then let them do Mutant Chronicles... Hopefully, they'll see that historical games are just far more exciting and rewarding.

Very well spoken! The same has always been in my heart.

 

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I would like to see a game where the focus is on people and politics first, and war and territory second. For an idea of what I mean, the main game screen would show who holds positions of power in the royal court, rather than a map. You might start as a minor noble in 1419; the goal would be to gain money, power and honour for your direct mail line, through marriages, making the right friends, and pleasing (or becoming) the king. Of course fighting wars would play a part, but the goal would be to put the right people on the right thrones.

 

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I sure hope they cover another period of history in the next game and not do a EU III - I am sick of this game!!! I have been playing it constantly for a year now and I just can't stop! Please no EU III - I can't take it.

 

[King]

Originally posted by Pishtaco
I would like to see a game where the focus is on people and politics first, and war and territory second. For an idea of what I mean, the main game screen would show who holds positions of power in the royal court, rather than a map. You might start as a minor noble in 1419; the goal would be to gain money, power and honour for your direct mail line, through marriages, making the right friends, and pleasing (or becoming) the king. Of course fighting wars would play a part, but the goal would be to put the right people on the right thrones.

Are you thinking opf a sorta EU RPG? Could have potiential, the other is a multi user RPG set in the EU world sort of like the RPG forum but with a more solid basis for the rules and where you play a noble rather than the KIng. It is an idea, but would it sell???? I am sure that is Paradox's first thought when it comes to a game idea.

 

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Originally posted by King


Are you thinking opf a sorta EU RPG? Could have potiential, the other is a multi user RPG set in the EU world sort of like the RPG forum but with a more solid basis for the rules and where you play a noble rather than the KIng. It is an idea, but would it sell???? I am sure that is Paradox's first thought when it comes to a game idea.

I'm not sure what you mean by an RPG. It's just that in EU history is about which state owns which province; I would be interested in seeing a game in which history is about the relationships between people. It needn't be any less abstracted than EU, just in a different way.

 

[King]

Originally posted by Pishtaco


I'm not sure what you mean by an RPG. It's just that in EU history is about which state owns which province; I would be interested in seeing a game in which history is about the relationships between people. It needn't be any less abstracted than EU, just in a different way.

Ok I see, but considering the weakness of the EU AI, could the AI be up to the job. The kind of interaction that we would need to simulate to make a game of this type interesting and replayable would require a lot of choices for the AI. Could it be up to the job??

 

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Originally posted by King


Ok I see, but considering the weakness of the EU AI, could the AI be up to the job. The kind of interaction that we would need to simulate to make a game of this type interesting and replayable would require a lot of choices for the AI. Could it be up to the job??

The AI in EU is weak, but capable of getting the job done, just about. Probably you can either make the game realistic and program a sizzlingly hot AI, or make it abstract and formalized so that you can get along with an AI that does enough maths to find the optimal behaviour. The second choice can still give a good game if you can keep the flavour of what the game is about, despite the abstraction.

 

[King]

Originally posted by Pishtaco


The AI in EU is weak, but capable of getting the job done, just about. Probably you can either make the game realistic and program a sizzlingly hot AI, or make it abstract and formalized so that you can get along with an AI that does enough maths to find the optimal behaviour. The second choice can still give a good game if you can keep the flavour of what the game is about, despite the abstraction.

I think for the type of game you are proposing the AI would need to be sizzlingly hot. To get a reasonably realistic interation between the player and other families in the court would require a damn good AI. If not I think the game would not be as good as EU. The AI needs to consider not just what you are doing know but whta you have done in the past. EU simulates this using Bad Boy, but to be able simulate family fueds you would need a much more complicated model.