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Prinz Wilhelm said:
Damn.. all that work for nothing.. :(

you can keep it maybe for some other mod ^^
 

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nitrox88 said:
you can keep it maybe for some other mod.

I don't know any mod that want's to use flags from the 1600's..

Anyway, seems like I have no business left in this thread.
 

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Prinz Wilhelm said:
I don't know any mod that want's to use flags from the 1600's..

Anyway, seems like I have no business left in this thread.


Wilhelm, perhaps the flags made by you could be utilized for making
counters somehow. Or for making national topbars which would be
nice too. There is still a lot of business in this thread.
 
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You know those topbars in addition to the skins.

The first set of topbars would be:

1. England
2. Spain
3. France
4. Genoa
5. Venice
6. Papal States
7. Portugal
8. Austria
9. Netherlands
10. Ottoman Empire
11. Scotland
12. Generic (neutral; for Rest of the World)

The big size flags would be really good for that purpose, I suppose.
 

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i think its i a little disorganised ...

why dont you make in the 1st topic some info about what you are doing and who is doing what and what has to be done ?
 

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Wilhelm, here are some samples of the topbars.

Vanilla Armageddon England

topbarzq6.png


Vanilla Armageddon France

topbardz5.png


Vanilla Armageddon Poland

topbarxq2.png


Vanilla Armageddon Spain

topbarbq2.png


All the topbars have the standard size - 1024 X 68 pixel.
BMP extension.

As you can see they all contain national flags.
 

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Jamie550 said:
Is there anything I could do? (I can't do graphics)


Probably there is. How about making tech teams for the
nations enumerated in the posts ## 10 and 344 of this thread ?
 

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nitrox88 said:
i hope this is good enough :)

some navy leaders:

Simon Lambrechtsz Mau AKA HOLLANDSE LEEUW
Robert Blake
Maarten Tromp
Witte de With
Jan Evertsen

Navy Leaders England:
- Robert Blake
Service Year: 1649-1658

Navy Leaders Holland:
- Maarten Harpertszoon Tromp
Service Year: 1621-1653 (Killed by a sharpshooter)
- Witte Corneliszoon de With
Service Year: 1620-1658 (Died in the Battle of the Sound)
- Johan Evertsen the Elder
Service Year: ????-1617 (Killed in Battle)
- Johan Evertsen the Younger
Service Year: 1651-1678
Cornelis Evertsen the Elder
Service Year: 1652-1666 (Killed in Battle)


Maybe a little bit late service years :(
Stored pictures anyway ;)
 

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nitrox88 said:
i think its i a little disorganised ...

Before starting to make something just ask me about it please.
That will definitely help us to avoid possible confusion and
unnecessary double-work. Everything will be fine.
 

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Personally, I think those are much better than the shields.
yeah, me too. those flags are awesome.
 

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Hannibal Barca2 said:
Navy Leaders England:
- Robert Blake
Service Year: 1649-1658

Navy Leaders Holland:
- Maarten Harpertszoon Tromp
Service Year: 1621-1653 (Killed by a sharpshooter)
- Witte Corneliszoon de With
Service Year: 1620-1658 (Died in the Battle of the Sound)
- Johan Evertsen the Elder
Service Year: ????-1617 (Killed in Battle)
- Johan Evertsen the Younger
Service Year: 1651-1678
Cornelis Evertsen the Elder
Service Year: 1652-1666 (Killed in Battle)


Maybe a little bit late service years :(
Stored pictures anyway ;)

Yes, these guys look a little bit too 'young' unless we
expand the timeframe into the next century.
 

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Perhaps use the random leader, minister & tech team generator and use nation specif names and surnames to fill up the lists, because, it must surely be hard to find enough leaders etc for this... Kings, queens as well as rulers should of course be historical and as time passes on, more and more historical should be added, but to start with at least... Just my five bucks
 

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This list of events makes it possible for you too choose Grand Viziers (Head of Government) at historical dates :) The candidats you can choose are historically chosen ;)

Code:
#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 1 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000001
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 28 month = april year = 1580 }
 
        action_a = {
                ai_chance = 25
                name = "Sokollu Mehmed"
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12097 }
        }
        action_b = {
                ai_chance = 25
                name = "Semiz Ahmed"
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12098 }        }
        action_c = {
                ai_chance = 25
                name = "Lala Kara Mustafa"
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12099 }        }
        action_d = {
                ai_chance = 25
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 2 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000002
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 7 month = august year = 1580 }
 
        action_a = {
                ai_chance = 25
                name = "Semiz Ahmed"
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12098 }
        }
        action_b = {
                ai_chance = 25
                name = "Lala Kara Mustafa"
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12099 }        }
        action_c = {
                ai_chance = 25
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }        }
        action_d = {
                ai_chance = 25
                name = "Kanijeli Siyavus"
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12101 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 3 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000003
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 24 month = december year = 1582 }
 
        action_a = {
                ai_chance = 25
                name = "Lala Kara Mustafa"
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12099 }
        }
        action_b = {
                ai_chance = 25
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }        }
        action_c = {
                ai_chance = 25
                name = "Kanijeli Siyavus"
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12101 }        }
        action_d = {
                ai_chance = 25
                name = "Özdemiroglu Osman"
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12102 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 4 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000004
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 28 month = july year = 1584 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Kanijeli Sijavus"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12101 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Özdemiroglu Osman"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12102 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Hadim Meshi"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12103 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 5 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000005
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 1 month = november year = 1585 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Kanijeli Siyavus"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12101 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Özdemiroglu Osman"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12102 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Hadim Mesih"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12103 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 6 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000006
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 14 month = april year = 1586 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Özdemiroglu Osman"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12102 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Hadim Mesih"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12103 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Kanijeli Siyavus"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12101 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 7 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000007
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 14 month = april year = 1589 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Hadim Mesih"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12103 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Kanijeli Siyavus"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12101 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Serdar Ferhad"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12104 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 8 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000008
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 1 month = august year = 1591 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Kanijeli Siyavus"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12101 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Serdar Ferhad"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12104 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Lala Mehmed"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12105 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 9 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000009
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 4 month = april year = 1592 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Serdar Ferhad"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12104 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Kanijeli Siyavus"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12101 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Lala Mehmed"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12105 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 10 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000010
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 28 month = january year = 1593 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Serdar Ferhad"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12104 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Kanijeli Siyavus"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12101 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Lala Mehmed"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12105 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 11 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000011
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 16 month = february year = 1595 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Kanijeli Siyavus"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12101 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Serdar Ferhad"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12104 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Lala Mehmed"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12105 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 12 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000012
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 7 month = july year = 1595 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Serdar Ferhad"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12104 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Lala Mehmed"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12105 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Damat Ibrahim"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12106 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 13 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000013
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 19 month = november year = 1595 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Serdar Ferhad"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12104 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Lala Mehmed"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12105 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Damat Ibrahim"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12106 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 14 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000014
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 1 month = december year = 1595 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Lala Mehmed"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12105 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Damat Ibrahim"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12106 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Cigalazade Yusuf Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12107 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 15 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000015
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 4 month = april year = 1596 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Lala Mehmed"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12105 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Damat Ibrahim"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12106 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Cigalazade Yusuf Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12107 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 16 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000016
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 27 month = october year = 1596 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Koca Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12100 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Damat Ibrahim"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12106 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Cigalazade Yusuf Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12107 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Hadim Hasan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12108 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 17 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000017
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 5 month = december year = 1596 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Damat Ibrahim"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12106 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Cigalazade Yusuf Sinan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12107 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Hadim Hasan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12108 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Cerra Mehmed"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12109 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 18 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000018
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 3 month = november year = 1597 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Cigalazade Yusuf"'
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12107 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Damat Ibrahim"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12106 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Hadim Hasan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12108 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Cerra Mehmed"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12109 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 19 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000019
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 9 month = april year = 1598 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Damat Ibrahim"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12106 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Hadim Hasan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12108 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Cerrah Mehmed"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12109 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Yemisci Hasan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12110 }        }

}

#############################################
###### Grand Vizier 20 # 
#############################################
event = {
        id = 5000020
        random = no
        country = TUR
        trigger = {

        }
 
        name = "Grand Vizier"
        desc = "Every once a while, a new Grand Vizier had to be elected."
        style = 0
        picture = "otto_grand_vizier"
 
        date = { day = 6 month = january year = 1599 }
 
        action_a = {
                name = "Hadim Hasan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12108 }
        }
        action_b = {
                name = "Cerrah Mehmed"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12109 }        }
        action_c = {
                name = "Damat Ibrahim"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12106 }        }
        action_d = {
                name = "Yemisci Hasan"
                ai_chance = 25
                command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12110 }        }

}

This should then be the ottoam Head of Governments list in the 1580-1600 scenario.

Code:
12096	Head of Government	Mustafa Ismet
12097	Head of Government	Sokullu Mehmed Pasha
12098	Head of Government	Semis Ahmed Pasha
12099	Head of Government	Lala Kara Mustafa Pasha
12100	Head of Government	Koca Sinan Pasha
12101	Head of Government	Kanijeli Siyavus Pasha
12102	Head of Government	Özdemirohlu Osman Pasha
12103	Head of Government	Hadim Mesih Pasha
12104	Head of Government	Serdar Ferhad
12105	Head of Government	Lala Mehmed Pasha
12106	Head of Government	Damat Ibrahim Pasha
12107	Head of Government	Cigalazade Yusuf Sinan Pasha
12108	Head of Government	Hadim Hasan Pasha
12109	Head of Government	Cerrah Mehmed Pasha

As for Head of State, that is simply Mehmed III ;)
 
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I like the events, Hannibal.

Do you have event pictures for them yet ?

Let's just start numbering them from 5000000
instead of 300001.
 

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Speaking about pictures for Ministers, we can afford specific
ones for every Head of State and Head of Government. Other
ministers have to have generic pictures.

1. Set of generic pictures for Western European nations.
2. Set of generic pictures for Eastern European nations.
3. Set of generic pictures for Muslem nations.
4. Set of generic pictures for the nations in the Far East.
5. Set of generic pictures for American Indians.
6. Set of generic pictures for African Kingdoms.

Let's say a portrait of a catholic priest can be the picture
for Head of Church for all Western European nations. A
portrait of an orthodox priest can be generic for Head of
Church for Eastern European nations. A portrait of the famous
Spanish admiral Alvaro de Bazan can be generic for Chief of
the Navy for all Western Europeans and so on.
 

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This is how our new Genoese flag looks like.

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Terminator said:
Speaking about pictures for Ministers, we can afford specific
ones for every Head of State and Head of Government. Other
ministers have to have generic pictures.

1. Set of generic pictures for Western European nations.
2. Set of generic pictures for Eastern European nations.
3. Set of generic pictures for Muslem nations.
4. Set of generic pictures for the nations in the Far East.
5. Set of generic pictures for American Indians.
6. Set of generic pictures for African Kingdoms.

Let's say a portrait of a catholic priest can be the picture
for Head of Church for all Western European nations. A
portrait of an orthodox priest can be generic for Head of
Church for Eastern European nations. A portrait of the famous
Spanish admiral Alvaro de Bazan can be generic for Chief of
the Navy for all Western Europeans and so on.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/bbb6ad/

:D
 

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New Research Buttons.

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The background under them has to be changed too.