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Arkangilos

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"Municipalities and counties that levy a sales tax are also authorized to levy use tax in addition to the 4.5 percent state use tax on out-of-state purchases on which Oklahoma sales tax has not been paid. The municipal or county use tax may not exceed an existing local sales tax."
 

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Well yeah, I wasn't saying you were wrong, I was saying it's not "utterly" wrong. I have to pay more for it because my state has a "use" tax where I'm charged sales tax for any purchase that doesn't have a sales tax already on it. So even though it doesn't actually have a presence in OK, I pay sales taxes on it.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this, but like I said, I'm supposed to pay taxes on almost ALL purchases.

Use taxes are the most common method of collecting sales tax on online purchases I think. They're disliked because they require self-assessment, but it's easier than asking random Amazon sellers in Washington to collect taxes for Vermont.

Generally, sales tax is (generally) required to be collected if you have a "physical presence" (or "nexus") in the state (this has a specific definition, but includes warehouses, stores, offices, and sales representatives) and is the gold standard; or if you have so much money (the amount varies) in sales per year to within said state. An example, this is a big picture of places where Amazon collects sales tax:

Sales-Tax-Fairness-Map-May2014.001-001.jpg

It's something a lawyer can answer better but basically for a substantial portion of Americans they will pay $19.99. Looking at the map, it's probably closer to ~20-30% than 50% I said earlier. My personal experience has been that online purchases never charge sales tax, only shipping tax, but this has unfortunately changed as Amazon now has sufficient physical presence to trigger the nexus law in my state.
 

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Use taxes are the most common method of collecting sales tax on online purchases I think. They're disliked because they require self-assessment, but it's easier than asking random Amazon sellers in Washington to collect taxes for Vermont.

Generally, sales tax is (generally) required to be collected if you have a "physical presence" (or "nexus") in the state (this has a specific definition, but includes warehouses, stores, offices, and sales representatives) and is the gold standard; or if you have so much money (the amount varies) in sales per year to within said state. An example, this is a big picture of places where Amazon collects sales tax:

Sales-Tax-Fairness-Map-May2014.001-001.jpg

It's something a lawyer can answer better but basically for a substantial portion of Americans they will pay $19.99. Looking at the map, it's probably closer to ~20-30% than 50% I said earlier. My personal experience has been that online purchases never charge sales tax, only shipping tax, but this has unfortunately changed as Amazon now has sufficient physical presence to trigger the nexus law in my state.
Not exactly suwhat but what we are arguing right now, lol.

As an aside, Oklahoma will be added to that list. Amazon will collect a sales tax from us starting in March.
 

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No sales tax on online purchases here in the state of Georgia unless the company has a presence here. So I pay sales tax through amazon but not steam. Either way its only 5% anyways.
 

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Great. Americans dont even have to pay taxes.
Makes me a bit angry, but then I only need to remember that there actually is a legal way to not pay taxes at all as a german citizen.

Well, in return, you get all the exciting things your government buys with all that VAT money. Whatever that is.
 

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20 Dollar right now are 18,93 Euro. Are you really starting a thread here because you don't want to pay 1,07 Euro more for Utopia than the Americans?
From a german to a german, that's a little picky - it's the cost of a pack of bubblegum.
 

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20 Dollar right now are 18,93 Euro. Are you really starting a thread here because you don't want to pay 1,07 Euro more for Utopia than the Americans?
From a german to a german, that's a little picky - it's the cost of a pack of bubblegum.
Precisely !
The great injustice here is that Americans will be able to play Utopia while chewing gum, when Europeans won't. :D
 

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The brits and their special treatments. As a german I can only hope the Eu will be very harsh on them when brexit comes.

A very spiteful and immature attitude. I do not wish to be part of the EU anymore but I certainly harbor no ill feeling to any other Europeans or nations over it. Your original post quibbling over having to spend a Euro more on the update has nothing to do with Brexit. I for one think you would be better to keep such irrelevant and potentially inflammatory opinions to yourself or take them to a forum dedicated to discussing such issues.
 

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Well, in return, you get all the exciting things your government buys with all that VAT money. Whatever that is.

I read somewhere that all that tax money was going to be spent on Making America Great Again. So, that's good news all round. Isn't it?
 

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Americans have other taxes that plays the same function like the VAT.


According to the European Commission, Italy actually contributes about 80% of what the UK does (after the UK rebate), and receives back nearly double what the UK does in EU expenditure.
Source: http://ec.europa.eu/budget/figures/interactive/index_en.cfm
Some parts of Italy are less developed than the majority of UK, that is why Italy receives more than UK.
 
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Why do so many people here insist on bringing arguments about the petty geopolitical games of the modern era into a forum for a computer game about genocidal wars between space foxes and demon snails?
 
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Huh? Where did that come from and why on Earth should the UK be punished for exercising it's democratic right? Grow up...

Aren't the folks in the EU just lovely? They cheat the USA and the UK by not spending enough money to match the agreed amount in NATO, yet if you democratically choose to not be a part of the EU, they want you as an individual and your country to suffer for it. They're lovely, really, can't see why anyone would leave the EU...
 

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Aren't the folks in the EU just lovely? They cheat the USA and the UK by not spending enough money to match the agreed amount in NATO, yet if you democratically choose to not be a part of the EU, they want you as an individual and your country to suffer for it. They're lovely, really, can't see why anyone would leave the EU...

Last I checked, the "agreed amount" is a helpful guideline. Protection isn't conditional in NATO nor should it be, because that opens a whole can of worms regarding other non-conditional things, which creates mafia statism. Also, Czech Republic, Poland, and most of the rest of the former Warsaw Pact are EU members. Hardly small spenders. The only "cheater" might be Canada for ditching F-35, but the rest of NATO seems onboard with it. Even "the folks in the EU" are gearing up for F-35s, and Canada is more than likely just waiting for the plane to be finished before it sinks in more money.

Anyway the UK only left the EU because of pensioners and their confederates. Much like Russia, the people who have futures looked to getting jobs overseas because the UK's wages are simply inadequate and stagnant.
 
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