EUIV - Quick Questions / Quick Answers

[akngn]

So, I feel too lazy to test and hope that someone already knows the answer.

Do I gain same amount of mandate from single tributary with X development compared to Y amount of tributary with total X development?

 

[PhoenixG]

So, I feel too lazy to test and hope that someone already knows the answer.

Do I gain same amount of mandate from single tributary with X development compared to Y amount of tributary with total X development?

In my current Qing game Russia with 761 dev gives +0.1 mandate, while 12 smaller tributary with a total of 742 gives +0.08 mandate.

It's close so I would say that statement is correct.

 

[CountKino]

Just started a game as Oirat, went and got Feudalism, so now I have 210 dev and Mongolia has 115.

Am I correct in thinking the Unguarded Nomadic Frontier will be ticking for Ming with the new changes in 1.29?

 

[akngn]

Yes, but you don't need unguarded frontier with Oirat. Go beat the army which Ming Emperor leads. It will give you 20% morale and 25% siege ability during your current monarch's reign. Then siege Beijing. This will trigger and event that plunges Ming's mandate and automatically sieges 1/3 of Ming. It is literally trivial to beat them with Oirat now.

 

[CountKino]

Yes, but you don't need unguarded frontier with Oirat. Go beat the army which Ming Emperor leads. It will give you 20% morale and 25% siege ability during your current monarch's reign. Then siege Beijing. This will trigger and event that plunges Ming's mandate and automatically sieges 1/3 of Ming. It is literally trivial to beat them with Oirat now.

Cheers. I didn't realise the effects of that event were so severe. Do Ming always lead an army with their Emperor now?

 

[akngn]

I am not sure. Emperor surely leads an army at the start of the game, but I don't know what happens later. Just have an army with full combat width and engage them. Don't bother with feudalism because you can embrace it from the land and money you get from Ming. Be sure to demand Beijing so they could never recover. Not controling Beijing will give them a permanent mandate hit now.

 

[Hiram_Maxim]

Yes, but you don't need unguarded frontier with Oirat. Go beat the army which Ming Emperor leads. It will give you 20% morale and 25% siege ability during your current monarch's reign. Then siege Beijing. This will trigger and event that plunges Ming's mandate and automatically sieges 1/3 of Ming. It is literally trivial to beat them with Oirat now.

What is the trick for making this strategy work? In 1444 Oirat has a meager force limit of 23 regiments. Although steppe troops have an advantage in flat terrain and Oirat's starting ruler is an outstanding general this only gets you so far--he can beat a Ming army of equal size but Ming stacks from the neighbouring provinces come over and beat me. I find myself getting overwhelmed when declaring war asap, right after recruiting more cavalry from the tribes estate. I was able to snipe the Ming emperor in battle and siege down Beijing, but the end result was only +4 warscore because Ming had carpet sieged me and Mongolia's provinces.

 

[akngn]

A cavalry heavy army with full combat width is enough. Retreat your army a little bit and engage lone Ming stacks on flat terrain. After you get that absurd combat buff from engaging Emperor. Beat its stacks a bit more for war score from battles and then siege Beijing. You will be able to make an almost 100% piece deal. Then Ming just dies.

 

[PhoenixG]

What is the trick for making this strategy work? In 1444 Oirat has a meager force limit of 23 regiments. Although steppe troops have an advantage in flat terrain and Oirat's starting ruler is an outstanding general this only gets you so far--he can beat a Ming army of equal size but Ming stacks from the neighbouring provinces come over and beat me. I find myself getting overwhelmed when declaring war asap, right after recruiting more cavalry from the tribes estate. I was able to snipe the Ming emperor in battle and siege down Beijing, but the end result was only +4 warscore because Ming had carpet sieged me and Mongolia's provinces.

23 is enough to beat Ming. The thing is you need to win the battle before he can reinforce. If you think you can't beat it on time don't fight that battle. Look at the timing when a multi stack leaves and aim for the slowest stack. Always before you fight consolidate your units. 2units at half strength fight worse than 1 unit at full strength.

 

[KevinGM]

How can i get rid of this ?

Here is the code :

(I've already try with a calc_true_if, the same thing appear)

 

[No-Flag]

About the Brittish Mission Tree: Do you have to make 3 electors a vazal? Or will it skip that mission if you destroy the HRE?

 

[grotaclas]

About the Brittish Mission Tree: Do you have to make 3 electors a vazal? Or will it skip that mission if you destroy the HRE?

You can also pass this mission if you dismantle the HRE.

 

[No-Flag]

Dismantle, that's the word I was looking for.
Thanks for the answer.

 

[Ayoub13Berrahel]

Is there a way for me to change the versions in the mod folder from 1.28 to 1.29, I can't seem to find the mod folder and mod makers still have issues with the current patch so everyèthing is broken right now

 

[enkidu136]

Question: IIrc as a member of the HRE I wasn't allowed to force vassalize Free Cities of the HRE, e. g. Lubeck. Are there any prerequisites for vassalizing Free Cities of the HRE? Like not being a member of the HRE or such?

thx in advance

 

[evandy]

The Enlightenment appeared in Milan. Constantinople has a university (as does Skopje for that matter), and they are getting:
+0.08 - Has a University and is not on the same continent as Enlightenment Origin

Shouldn't they get
+0.41 Have University and is on the same continent as Enlightenment Origin

Or should this read SUB-Continent, and the tooltip is just bad? (In which case I will take this over to the bug forums).

Running 1.28.3 by the way; finishing up a game before moving to 1.29

 

[grotaclas]

The Enlightenment appeared in Milan. Constantinople has a university (as does Skopje for that matter), and they are getting:
+0.08 - Has a University and is not on the same continent as Enlightenment Origin

Shouldn't they get
+0.41 Have University and is on the same continent as Enlightenment Origin

It depends where the capital of the province owner is. If the owner of Constantinople and Skopje has their capital in Europe the provinces would get +0.41. If the owners capital is on another continent, they get +0.08

 

[grotaclas]

Question: IIrc as a member of the HRE I wasn't allowed to force vassalize Free Cities of the HRE, e. g. Lubeck. Are there any prerequisites for vassalizing Free Cities of the HRE? Like not being a member of the HRE or such?

Non-members can't force vassalize Free Cities either. I don't know if there is any way around that restriction. But Lübeck is not a Free city at the start of the game and they are very unlikely to become one, because they are a merchant republic.

 

[evandy]

Non-members can't force vassalize Free Cities either. I don't know if there is any way around that restriction. But Lübeck is not a Free city at the start of the game and they are very unlikely to become one, because they are a merchant republic.

Ahh. Thought it meant the province was on the same continent, not the capital of the province's owner.

 

[enkidu136]

Non-members can't force vassalize Free Cities either. I don't know if there is any way around that restriction. But Lübeck is not a Free city at the start of the game and they are very unlikely to become one, because they are a merchant republic.

Thx, good to know. So they somehowe have to annex a second province, ive rarely seen that happen, if at all.