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What are the advantages of creating states? And is it possible to keep autonomy low in a region after you change it back form a state?
Provinces which are not in a state have a minimum autonomy of 75%
Provinces which are in a state but only have a territorial core have a minimum autonomy of 50%

If a province is part of a state and you turn the area back to a territory, minimum autonomy will revert to 75%, no way to avoid that
 

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Provinces are green if you are able to select the button for increase (or decrease) autonomy, and red if you are still timer-locked on that.

That's what I thought at first too, but there are provinces on the map that aren't highlighted in which I can change autonomy.
 

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Unfortunately, it matters in the scenario I'm contemplating, as it changes me away from a government that I can no longer get back to.
Ah. Now I'm curious what that scenario is :)
 

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Ah. Now I'm curious what that scenario is :)
Custom nation with non-standard government form chosen at start. I was theorycrafting a way to get back to it, but it's so convoluted I think I'll just religion flip and form Hindustan instead. It's not as thematically fitting for what I'm doing, and it's arguably more work, but it gives me all the same claims, which is something that my government flipping shenanigans would not preserve, so it'll do.
That's what I thought at first too, but there are provinces on the map that aren't highlighted in which I can change autonomy.
Either it's a bug that they're not showing up, or the LA tab is supposed to do something way too advanced for us mere mortals to comprehend. :p
 

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I'm playing as Denmark for the first time, and I have just integrated Sweden into my country. I have yet to integrate Norway, because I'm wondering if they will colonize for me if they stay as the lesser partner in the union? And if they do indeed colonize it's better to not integrate them right? The year is 1510.
 

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Yes, they will colonize for you however their colonization speed will be very slow since they're not going to gain any additional colonists except the one from their NIs - subject nations will never pick Exploration Ideas
 

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I'm spending 0.5 ducats a month for "diplomatic expenses" while the game tells me I don't have subsidies, fees, not supporting loyalist or anything else. I have the strong suspicion it's because I used to be paying Poland exactly 0.5 for Harbor Fees for a few months, however I've long since cancelled them. In fact, if I ask for harbor fees again from Poland, my diplomatic expenses stay at 0.5. Looks like it's a bug. :(
 
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What are the factors that determine whether vassal armies attach to your armies in a war? I just can't figure it out. Sometimes allies and vassals cooperate perfectly, other times they just don't do what I want for no apparent reason.

Here is an example:

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Saxony, Brunswick and Galicia-Volhynia are all my vassals. They all have low liberty desire and positive opinion of me and I set all of them on Supportive because their individual armies are too small to be useful, but they do have good generals and their combined army is useful. However they simply will not attach to my armies, such as that 5k stack positioned in Ratibor, which of course has "Friendlies Can Attach" enabled.

A little earlier (I think) the Brunswick army randomly attached to the Galician army, but still refused to attach to mine when I moved my army on their combined stack. Also earlier in the Religious League War, a Saxony army refused to attach to my army even as a massive French stack rolled in and stackwiped them. *sigh* To be fair, on that occasion they may have had disloyal attitude because I enforced vassalization by war, but it's still kinda stupid to suicide-by-France instead of retreating to consolidate with my main army nearby.

The only thing I can think of in the above example is that perhaps they are afraid of the Ottomans? But... if I set them on Siege focus, they do immediately start marching towards the Ottomans... ofc to be stackwiped by much larger Ottoman armies if I let them lol
 

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I'm spending 0.5 ducats a month for "diplomatic expenses" while the game tells me I don't have subsidies, fees, not supporting loyalist or anything else. I have the strong suspicion it's because I used to be paying Poland exactly 0.5 for Harbor Fees for a few months, however I've long since cancelled them. In fact, if I ask for harbor fees again from Poland, my diplomatic expenses stay at 0.5. Looks like it's a bug. :(

That's a bug I already reported last month.

Reloading the save fixes it.
 

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I'm spending 0.5 ducats a month for "diplomatic expenses" while the game tells me I don't have subsidies, fees, not supporting loyalist or anything else. I have the strong suspicion it's because I used to be paying Poland exactly 0.5 for Harbor Fees for a few months, however I've long since cancelled them. In fact, if I ask for harbor fees again from Poland, my diplomatic expenses stay at 0.5. Looks like it's a bug. :(

Like Dominion says, it's a bug. It is also only a visual bug in the income/outcome overview, you don't lose the money actually.
 

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I revoked the privilegia.
Austria has 100% liberty desire due to very high development. It wont be possible to get them <50%.
What happens if I cancel the vassalization?
Will they remain in the HRE or leave and i get claims on their HRE land?

I placed a relative on their throne via subject interaction. I was thinking that perhaps i cancel them as vassal and later try to PU them.
I cant remember the LD modifiers with PUs. Will I run into the same problems if I PU them?
 

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Like Dominion says, it's a bug. It is also only a visual bug in the income/outcome overview, you don't lose the money actually.
Are you sure?

I remember calculating it and I did indeed lose the money.

I revoked the privilegia.
Austria has 100% liberty desire due to very high development. It wont be possible to get them <50%.
What happens if I cancel the vassalization?
Will they remain in the HRE or leave and i get claims on their HRE land?

I placed a relative on their throne via subject interaction. I was thinking that perhaps i cancel them as vassal and later try to PU them.
I cant remember the LD modifiers with PUs. Will I run into the same problems if I PU them?
You run into pretty similar - though diminished - issues, but improving relations + same dynasty + same religion should suffice together with developing their provinces which gives -5% per point.

Controlling the vassal swarm should let you expand fast enough to have them under your belt soon enough.

They can't break free anyways so I generally don't bother.

Paying off their debt will help a lot too.
 

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Are you sure?

I remember calculating it and I did indeed lose the money.


Hmm, I'm like 99% sure I didn't lose money on it, but I looked a bit around a min ago on the forum.

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...6-harbor-fees-diplomatic-expenses-bug.918321/

Looks like the bug is known at paradox, but also on that topic some people say that it really deducts money from the treasury. I'm sure though the problem still exists on 1.19, did you have it on 1.19? then we can make a new report.
 

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Feel free to make a new one and upload the save as well please. The more the merrier.

It was on 1.19 and although I have seen it twice since I reported it in this thread I have not bothered to recalc and just reloaded.

But I do remember calcing it the first time it happened and it was deducted from my total.
 

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They can't break free anyways so I generally don't bother.
Thank you, that's good to know.

It feels like such a waste to have Austria with 150k troops doing nothing.

I am hoping they leave the HRE when i cancel their vassalization so I can break Austria up by force into smaller chunks and then re-add everything to HRE (since a PU wont help).
If they don't leave the HRE I would be hindered due to Ewiger Landfriede. This would screw up everything.
Anyone got an answer to that? Will they stay or leave the HRE if I cancel their vassalization?
 

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Provinces which are not in a state have a minimum autonomy of 75%
Provinces which are in a state but only have a territorial core have a minimum autonomy of 50%

If a province is part of a state and you turn the area back to a territory, minimum autonomy will revert to 75%, no way to avoid that
So as, for example, Ottomans, if I were to conquer and invade all of Europe there would be no way to reduce the autonomy of Europe (excluding the 5 states) below 50% even after 300 years of occupation?

And also, are cores worth it over claims?
 
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So as, for example, Ottomans, if I were to conquer and invade all of Europe there would be no way to reduce the autonomy of Europe (excluding the 5 states) below 50% even after 300 years of occupation?

And also, are cores worth it over claims?

The first question is correct, except that you're completely off base on the "only five states" part. You can get far more states over time through tech and ideas. At tech 31, you get +86 states, for example.

I'm not sure your second question even makes sense. Claims give you a cause for war and lower some initial costs (in terms of taking the land), but they don't have any impact on long term autonomy minimums, not to mention overextension. They don't really serve the same purpose at all.

If you play an entire game without coring anything, you're going to have a rough go of it.
 

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The first question is correct, except that you're completely off base on the "only five states" part. You can get far more states over time through tech and ideas. At tech 31, you get +86 states, for example.
Ah well that makes more sense, I thought it was a strange mechanic.