EUIV - Quick Questions / Quick Answers

[Heindrich]

For provinces that border multiple sea zones, how can I tell which sea the provincial port is in? For example, do ships from Crimea exit into the Sea of Azov or the Gulf of Odessa?

Every coastal province has a little dock sprite to indicate which sea zone it's in.

i.e. Crimea dock is in Gulf of Odessa, if you wish to blockade it, ur ships need to be there rather than Sea of Azov,

 

[mostballerwizard]

Oh, awesome, thanks!

TOTALLY NOT RELATED QUESTION RELATED TO SUBJUGATION

So when I conquer territory, I get rebels. When I kill all the rebels, they stop rebelling for ten years. If I conquer more territory from the same nation in those ten years, am I increasing the size of future rebel stacks, or will I spawn two medium sized revolts spaced a few years apart?

 

[Dominion]

Regarding conquering territory: If the rebel type is separatists the size mainly depends on total development demanded by said separatists.

So say you conquer 12 dev with a base 4 and kill them off you got rid of 16k for 10 years.

Now you conquer similar provinces, take 8 dev and get a 12k stack rising.

If it pops before the 10 year cd ran out you get the 12k stack and another 16 rising after that.
If it doesn't pop, both stacks will combine and give you a single 24k stack.

Usually separatist rebels only pop once though since increasing autonomy lowers revolt chance sufficiently enough for separatism not increasing local unrest above 0 after their first revolt.

 

[atwix]

So, I want to have a vasall and I would like to feed Tunis to it. But I can only make Tlemcen a protectorate. Would the following work:

I take all/most Provinces of Tlemcen in the peace deal, but i dont core them. Then I release Tlemcen (or maybe Algiers) AS A VASALL and feed them all the other provinces.
Possible?

algiers would be possible if their cores have SAME institutions PRESENT then you.

aka, if you accepted rennaissance and its not present in africa, you cannot release any vassal. But if Tlemcen didn't embrace rennaissance yet, but its spreading from Morocco into Algiers coastal provinces, you CAN release Algiers as soon as the provinces with algiers cores have rennaissance present on it. Not entirely sure how this goes, but I think only the historical capital of Algiers needs it.

advice: take any province of algiers if it has your embraced institutions, then you can release them.

 

[superscunk]

My first game as Poland and I didn't pay attention to the requirements to form Commonwealth.
Lithuania has 44 provinces and now i read they need to have less than 41.

Any idea what I could do?

 

[londoner247]

My first game as Poland and I didn't pay attention to the requirements to form Commonwealth.
Lithuania has 44 provinces and now i read they need to have less than 41.

Any idea what I could do?

Find an OPM to go to war with, get a 100% war score and then they will have to accept any peace deal you offer. You can offer tribute (as if you had lost the war) and use that option to release a nation out of Lithuania that will get their province count back below the threshold. If possible, pick a nation that will be completely surrounded by you afterwards so that nobody else can conquer them before your truce is over.

 

[superscunk]

Thank you for that idea!
I tried, but for some reason the peace screen only offers one releasable nation for Lithuania, which is two province Galicia-Volhynia.
So i returned provinces instead.

 

[superscunk]

Now I'm Commonwealth. I still got the Elective Monarchy going on.
My ally Austria calls me into their war against Ottomans. No problem.

While we both wage war I gain a PU with Bohemia (Emperor). Now I'm the Emperor.
Austria declares a succession war over Bohemia. Is that correct that I'm fighting both with and against Austria at the same time?
I'm confused...

Edit: sorry, my bad. Austria is not at war with Ottomans anymore, instead someone else took over leadership.

 

[Lordkaiser]

Algiers was my protectorate (very very annoying that they all the time cancel the protectorate-status without you getting notification).
So, they were my protectorate on and off. Now they embraced Renaissance and I allied them. I want to offer vasallization now.
But economic base bullshit is a problem.
I have this formula from the wiki, hope it will show, when I post it, But its too complicated. I have no idea how much more base tax or production I would need so that my target accepts.
REALLY a good suggestion for paradox: Show the player how much more tax and/or production is needed so that the target accepts!

So, Algiers has 4 provinces with 40 development. And they tell me Economic base compared -71. How much have I to develop or annex, so that they will agree?

 

[grommile]

That LaTeX output is completely illegible against the default forum skin. Try getting a white-background one instead of a transparent one.

 

[Threshold]

I have this formula from the wiki, hope it will show, when I post it, But its too complicated.

Unfortunately, the wiki's formula isn't even completely accurate, as it claims that manpower of your provinces does not affect anything, when you can demonstrate otherwise simply by developing manpower in an owned province. However, it still gives us enough information to solve. The key is that your -71 modifier is on a -90 to +30 scale, so it's actually a 19 out of a possible 120. Which means you only need to answer the following questions:

1) What is your autonomy-modified development? (Technology tab, Institutions, hover over the bar and it'll say xxx.xx after local autonomy.)
2) What is the total sum of the modifiers to acceptance for vassalization, right now? (If you don't have +20 from military strength, do that and then come back.)

3) Take the negative value from step 2), make it positive, and then add 1. This is how much higher you need the modifier to be to have a result of 1 (acceptance).
4) Divide the result of step 3) by 19. This is, as a percentage, how much more autonomy-modified development you need.
5) Multiply the result of step 4) by the result of step 1). This is exactly how much additional autonomy-modified development you need.
6) Conquer and lower autonomy until you reach the result of step 1) plus step 5).

 

[Lordkaiser]

Algiers was my protectorate (very very annoying that they all the time cancel the protectorate-status without you getting notification).
So, they were my protectorate on and off. Now they embraced Renaissance and I allied them. I want to offer vasallization now.
But economic base bullshit is a problem.
I have this formula from the wiki, hope it will show, when I post it, But its too complicated. I have no idea how much more base tax or production I would need so that my target accepts.
REALLY a good suggestion for paradox: Show the player how much more tax and/or production is needed so that the target accepts!

So, Algiers has 4 provinces with 40 development. And they tell me Economic base compared -71. How much have I to develop or annex, so that they will agree?

That LaTeX output is completely illegible against the default forum skin. Try getting a white-background one instead of a transparent one.

Here's the readable one:

Unfortunately, the wiki's formula isn't even completely accurate, as it claims that manpower of your provinces does not affect anything, when you can demonstrate otherwise simply by developing manpower in an owned province. However, it still gives us enough information to solve. The key is that your -71 modifier is on a -90 to +30 scale, so it's actually a 19 out of a possible 120. Which means you only need to answer the following questions:

1) What is your autonomy-modified development? (Technology tab, Institutions, hover over the bar and it'll say xxx.xx after local autonomy.)
2) What is the total sum of the modifiers to acceptance for vassalization, right now? (If you don't have +20 from military strength, do that and then come back.)

3) Take the negative value from step 2), make it positive, and then add 1. This is how much higher you need the modifier to be to have a result of 1 (acceptance).
4) Divide the result of step 3) by 19. This is, as a percentage, how much more autonomy-modified development you need.
5) Multiply the result of step 4) by the result of step 1). This is exactly how much additional autonomy-modified development you need.
6) Conquer and lower autonomy until you reach the result of step 1) plus step 5).

Wow, thats complicated. I didnt understand anything after step 1, but in a few hours i have time and will go through that with the game open. Thank you, I will ask more later, im pretty sure.

 

[Threshold]

Wow, thats complicated. I didnt understand anything after step 1, but in a few hours i have time and will go through that with the game open. Thank you, I will ask more later, im pretty sure.

I'll give a completely hypothetical example:
1) 314 autonomy modified development. I like Pi.
2) -45. With -71 from economic base, +20 from troop strength, and some other positive modifiers, that's not unreasonable. Could even be better than that, -30 maybe?
3) 45 + 1 = 46.
4) 46 / 19 = 2.42, meaning you need 242% more autonomy-modified development than you have.
5) 2.42 * 314 = 760 additional autonomy-modified development.
6) Total autonomy modified-development necessary is 314+760=1074.

 

[Vetgirig]

Algiers was my protectorate (very very annoying that they all the time cancel the protectorate-status without you getting notification).

Protectorates is broken in this patch. They will be removed in next patch.

So don't take protectorates. Just conquer the land instead.

 

[Dominion]

Protectorates is broken in this patch. They will be removed in next patch.

So don't take protectorates. Just conquer the land instead.

Funny enough, you should take them because they're broken.

Take their provinces, wait until they break off, take them again immediately, take more provinces. The negative modifier disappears whenever they break it.

 

[Yxklyx]

Funny enough, you should take them because they're broken.

Take their provinces, wait until they break off, take them again immediately, take more provinces. The negative modifier disappears whenever they break it.

Not all Protectorates break away. If they have the Mayan religion for instance they will never be able to fully reform and embrace any institution if they are under 20 provinces. If playing as Mayan you can force convert other pagans in war.

 

[Halit69]

If i turn into Germany with Prussia, will i still get the Prussian discipline achievement?

 

[Bouchart]

If i turn into Germany with Prussia, will i still get the Prussian discipline achievement?

No, you have to be Prussia.

 

[Threshold]

If i turn into Germany with Prussia, will i still get the Prussian discipline achievement?

You'll have to have enough discipline before you switch in order to get the achievement, as your tag has to be Prussia at the time.
But there's nothing preventing you from switching after you get the achievement.

 

[Lordkaiser]

I'll give a completely hypothetical example:
1) 314 autonomy modified development. I like Pi.
2) -45. With -71 from economic base, +20 from troop strength, and some other positive modifiers, that's not unreasonable. Could even be better than that, -30 maybe?
3) 45 + 1 = 46.
4) 46 / 19 = 2.42, meaning you need 242% more autonomy-modified development than you have.
5) 2.42 * 314 = 760 additional autonomy-modified development.
6) Total autonomy modified-development necessary is 314+760=1074.

Can this really be?
I have 236,44 development after autonomy in that tab. And if I do your calculations I get 684,49. Can it really be that I have to grow to the double or triple of my size?
Why? They only have 4 provinces with all together 40 development. Why does my country have grow SO much?

And why is step 4 dividing through 19? why 19?

And what exactly does Development AFTER autonomy mean? Is it how much development I will have when all autonomy has gone away in the future or is it All my development without taking into account those parts that have autonomy?
Or in other words - does it help me when I make territories into states, because it can lower the autonomy in some places?