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The tooltip in game telling you that you need tech 31 is wrong. You cannot manually switch to this government and you will get it if you lose to the rebels spawned by the disaster. Your admin tech level is irrelevant.
So i got constutional republic :(((((((( i mean that !

Edit: Viva I got RR! :)
 

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In my Brandenburg game, I got a CtA from my ally, Sweden, in an offensive war against Denmark, for the promise of territory. I absolutely intended to answer the call, but wanted to hide my trade fleet first, activate a few forts etc... So I kept the pop up onscreen and waited for just one monthly tick and hit accept... Nothing happened. I didn't join the war, I also didn't lose my alliance with Sweden, or suffer any relations malus for refusing a call (I thought I misclicked at first).

What happened? Was it a bug? Did Sweden realize that they didn't need my help afterall and thus didn't want to give me any land in the peace deal? In any case I attacked Denmark myself in a separate war, with no malus to relations with Sweden.
 

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In my Brandenburg game, I got a CtA from my ally, Sweden, in an offensive war against Denmark, for the promise of territory. I absolutely intended to answer the call, but wanted to hide my trade fleet first, activate a few forts etc... So I kept the pop up onscreen and waited for just one monthly tick and hit accept... Nothing happened. I didn't join the war, I also didn't lose my alliance with Sweden, or suffer any relations malus for refusing a call (I thought I misclicked at first).

What happened? Was it a bug? Did Sweden realize that they didn't need my help afterall and thus didn't want to give me any land in the peace deal? In any case I attacked Denmark myself in a separate war, with no malus to relations with Sweden.
Can confirm only one case where I did the exact same thing (leave it open, accept, no reaction, DoW myself).
There's a thread in the bug section about it already.
 

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In my Brandenburg game, I got a CtA from my ally, Sweden, in an offensive war against Denmark, for the promise of territory. I absolutely intended to answer the call, but wanted to hide my trade fleet first, activate a few forts etc... So I kept the pop up onscreen and waited for just one monthly tick and hit accept... Nothing happened. I didn't join the war, I also didn't lose my alliance with Sweden, or suffer any relations malus for refusing a call (I thought I misclicked at first).

What happened? Was it a bug? Did Sweden realize that they didn't need my help afterall and thus didn't want to give me any land in the peace deal? In any case I attacked Denmark myself in a separate war, with no malus to relations with Sweden.

Who else was in the war (on both sides) by the time you clicked to accept and were you in any other active wars at this time?
 

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Who else was in the war (on both sides) by the time you clicked to accept and were you in any other active wars at this time?

I was in a minor internal HRE war. I used "Enforce Peace" on Luneburg, who was trying to conquer Verden, he rejected, which brought me into the war.
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Ongoing War:

Attackers:
  • Luneburg (leader)
  • Anhalt
  • Brunswick
Defenders:
  • Verden (leader)
  • Oldenburg
  • Bremen
  • Brandenburg (me)
Incidentally I joined this war because Bremen and Verden were transferring trade power to me.

__________________________________________________________

The Swedish War:


Attackers:
  • Sweden (leader)
  • Scotland
Defenders:
  • Denmark (leader)
  • Norway (PU subject)
  • Oldenburg (ally of Denmark)
  • Livonian Order
___________________________________________________________

My War:


Attackers:
  • Brandenburg (leader)
  • France (it was overkill... yeah, but might as well use the favors)
Defenders:
  • Denmark (leader)
  • Norway
  • Livonian Order
  • Oldenburg (after I peace out the first war)
_________________________________________________________________________


I highlighted Oldenburg because if I had to guess, he is the reason Sweden's CtA might have bugged out. When I declared my own war on Denmark immediately after the Swedish CtA didn't work, Oldenburg remained as my ally in the first war, but as soon as that first war ended, his troops immediately became hostile to me as he joined Denmark in the second war.
 

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I was in a minor internal HRE war. I used "Enforce Peace" on Luneburg, who was trying to conquer Verden, he rejected, which brought me into the war.
________________________________________________________
Ongoing War:

Attackers:
  • Luneburg (leader)
  • Anhalt
  • Brunswick
Defenders:
  • Verden (leader)
  • Oldenburg
  • Bremen
  • Brandenburg (me)
Incidentally I joined this war because Bremen and Verden were transferring trade power to me.

__________________________________________________________

The Swedish War:


Attackers:
  • Sweden (leader)
  • Scotland
Defenders:
  • Denmark (leader)
  • Norway (PU subject)
  • Oldenburg (ally of Denmark)
  • Livonian Order
___________________________________________________________

My War:


Attackers:
  • Brandenburg (leader)
  • France (it was overkill... yeah, but might as well use the favors)
Defenders:
  • Denmark (leader)
  • Norway
  • Livonian Order
  • Oldenburg (after I peace out the first war)
_________________________________________________________________________


I highlighted Oldenburg because if I had to guess, he is the reason Sweden's CtA might have bugged out. When I declared my own war on Denmark immediately after the Swedish CtA didn't work, Oldenburg remained as my ally in the first war, but as soon as that first war ended, his troops immediately became hostile to me as he joined Denmark in the second war.

Your guess is right. On day one when Sweden called you into the war you were eligible to be called because they were only declaring on Denmark. However, you would not have been able to accept that call even if you had tried to do it straight away because you would have been fighting alongside Oldenburg in one war and against them in another and that is not allowed. As an ally of Denmark, they would have joined Sweden's war immediately and so this would have stopped you from joining.

It is because you became ineligible for the CtA that you do not lose the alliance or suffer any penalties. Once you peaced out of the war against Luneberg it would have been possible for Sweden to call you again as long as their war had only been going for less than two and a half years.
 
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I haven't messed around with PUs before except forcing one over France as England via a mission... So I want to understand that I understand the situation correctly here:

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The English Tudor Queen just died without an heir and a member of my dynasty has succeeded to the English throne. Before she died this tooltip said that there would be a Succession War between France and me, but no such war occurred.

As you can see, I can click the Claim Throne button. Will this immediately put me at war against England (and France?), and give me PU over England if I win?
 

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I haven't messed around with PUs before except forcing one over France as England via a mission... So I want to understand that I understand the situation correctly here:

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The English Tudor Queen just died without an heir and a member of my dynasty has succeeded to the English throne. Before she died this tooltip said that there would be a Succession War between France and me, but no such war occurred.

As you can see, I can click the Claim Throne button. Will this immediately put me at war against England (and France?), and give me PU over England if I win?

The best guide to the PU mechanic on this forum is this one.

To answer your specific question, no, clicking that button will not put you at war. What it will do is make a succession war more likely but if, AND ONLY IF, the current English monarch does not get an heir. As their ruler is of your dynasty then it will also give you a CB against them to force a PU. That CB will only last until they get an heir so you would have to declare the war before that happens.
 

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I haven't messed around with PUs before except forcing one over France as England via a mission... So I want to understand that I understand the situation correctly here:

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The English Tudor Queen just died without an heir and a member of my dynasty has succeeded to the English throne. Before she died this tooltip said that there would be a Succession War between France and me, but no such war occurred.

As you can see, I can click the Claim Throne button. Will this immediately put me at war against England (and France?), and give me PU over England if I win?

Claiming Throne gives you a Claim on Throne CB that allows you to force a personal union if you can get 84% war score. The CB lasts until one of the following:

-the current queen dies heirless, in which case you get the personal union and France gets the option (but not an obligation) to contest;
-the queen gets an heir with Average or Strong Claim

If you use the CB, you will not necessarily be at war with France. You'll be at war with England and anyone else they drag in through normal means (alliances, DotF, etc.)
 
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I've seen people complain about how AI doesn't know how to manage War Exhaustion and never buys it down with Diplo... This isn't a consistent rule right?

I waged a long Condottiere war specifically to exhaust my next invasion target (Poland), his allies (Livonians) and his enemies (Muscovy + Allies) who I also didn't want to win too decisively.

Towards the end of the war Poland had 10+ WE and the Livionians were on 15. One or two months after the war, which Poland and Livonian Order lost, they had 0 and 3 WE, respectively. Poland suprisingly only had 270 ducats of debt too. (Compared to 1200+ for Musocvy, who won).

I hope it's a case of AI being smart and actually buying down WE with Diplo, instead of random cheating that would have made my efforts entirely pointless.
 

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Losing a war reduces WE depending on WS taken.
 

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Losing a war reduces WE depending on WS taken.

Can you elaborate on that? I don't know what you mean.

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ps: Poland was actually the aggressor in the war.

pps: It's quite cool how big Polotsk is getting, I've never seen them form before, I had to google it to find out who they are. lol
 

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Can you elaborate on that? I don't know what you mean.


ps: Poland was actually the aggressor in the war.

pps: It's quite cool how big Polotsk is getting, I've never seen them form before, I had to google it to find out who they are. lol

A 100 war score peace deal will remove 20 war exhaustion from everyone on the losing side. A white peace will leave war exhaustion unaffected. It is a straight line scale in between so a 50 war score peace deal will remove 10 war exhaustion.

In your case, they gave up a lot of territory so the peace deal was probably quite high in war score cost and this would have removed most (if not all) of their war exhaustion. They are unlikely to have used dip points to reduce it in your scenario.
 
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