EUIV - Quick Questions / Quick Answers

[Wisehan]

I conquered all provinces of Gharbia, Sharqiya, Central Egypt, Upper Egypt, Cyrenaica, the Libyan Desert and Hejaz. But mission is not completed. I cored all of these provinces and pass a year but nothing changes. Am i missing something?

Edit: Map is changed, Sirt is in now Cyrenaica.Problem is solved

 

[Dominion]

Iirc you need to own the whole region for these missions.

Of course the wiki is crap, as usual. No list of provinces available.

Either way, if I'm correct and you need the whole region you're still missing Makuriah and Sind.

Check your diplo tab to find out where you got claims. The mission gives them for free so you'll see which provinces that still aren't owned by you got them.

 

[tva]

Does anyone know if there is a new event in 1.19 for Scotland to get Orkney and Shetland? I`m noticing they have it after some time (before 1500) but i`m not aware of any war betwen them and Norway.

Bumping since it got lost with no answer. Thanks.

 

[DorianOtten]

Hi,

Is there a way to edit the HRE events that at unification I'm still called Ireland and have Irish advisors, Generals etc? Through marriage and alliances I've become emperor and don't want to go through all the trouble of uniting and then having to become German at the end?

Thanks
DO

 

[Dominion]

Hi,

Is there a way to edit the HRE events that at unification I'm still called Ireland and have Irish advisors, Generals etc? Through marriage and alliances I've become emperor and don't want to go through all the trouble of uniting and then having to become German at the end?

Thanks
DO

If you can't find a mod: Manual integration works for HRE vassals too.

 

[tre3qwerty]

Bumping since it got lost with no answer. Thanks.

Yes, there is: between 1460 and 1475 Norway (if not junior partner of a PU) or Norway's PU senior can get the "A Strategic Marriage" event, giving them the opportunity to sell those islands to Scotland in exchange for a royal marriage and 200 ducats (oddly, Scotland spends 100 ducats if it decides to accept, but Norway/Norway's senior actually get 200). If Norway is a PU junior, it can contest the senior's decision to sell the islands and declare an independence war, but the AI will never choose this option.
If Norway is in a PU, an AI senior has a 90% chance to propose the deal. If AI Norway is independent, it will propose the deal only roughly 8.25% of the times.
If AI Scotland receives the proposal, it will always accept the deal.
If you want to see the event code for yourself, it's located in "Europa Universalis IV\events\flavorNOR.txt". The first event of the chain is "flavor_nor.5"

Hi,

Is there a way to edit the HRE events that at unification I'm still called Ireland and have Irish advisors, Generals etc? Through marriage and alliances I've become emperor and don't want to go through all the trouble of uniting and then having to become German at the end?

Thanks
DO

You could do a small mod that modifies event 9075 (found in "Europa Universalis IV\events\HolyRomanEmpire.txt") by removing this line:

change_tag = HLR

Doing this will make the game perform all of the usual integrations of vassals that happen with the last reform without actually changing your tag.

 

[Heindrich]

I've been watching Arumba/Filthyrobot's "tutorial" series on and off, and in a recent video, Arumba declares "Native Coexistence" to be flat out the best native policy, to the exclusion of ever considering anything else.

Surely this depends on your circumstances. If you are a large country with no serious military threats and plenty of manpower, for example Ming and Great Britain as I have been playing recently, you can easily spare a few regiments in the colonies fighting natives occasionally, and having your Conquistador fight natives as he explores. I have always used Native Repression to maximize my colonial growth, and when colonizing the New World, almost every province has less than 1k natives anyway, so you mostly only need 1 regiment per colony. As your military tech improves, you can slaughter native uprisings without even increasing military maintenance, although at that point I'm rich enough to never need to min/max that slider anyway.

 

[ecrurudesby]

I've been watching Arumba/Filthyrobot's "tutorial" series on and off, and in a recent video, Arumba declares "Native Coexistence" to be flat out the best native policy, to the exclusion of ever considering anything else.

Surely this depends on your circumstances. If you are a large country with no serious military threats and plenty of manpower, for example Ming and Great Britain as I have been playing recently, you can easily spare a few regiments in the colonies fighting natives occasionally, and having your Conquistador fight natives as he explores. I have always used Native Repression to maximize my colonial growth, and when colonizing the New World, almost every province has less than 1k natives anyway, so you mostly only need 1 regiment per colony. As your military tech improves, you can slaughter native uprisings without even increasing military maintenance, although at that point I'm rich enough to never need to min/max that slider anyway.

I agree with you. +20 settler growth is a significant increase in the formative years when you need to grab as much New World land as you can.

 

[Dominion]

Will have to watch the video, but native coexistence is imo the worst of all options.

You can suppress natives with a 1k stack. In some cases you need 2k.

Out of all possible colonizers only Brittany can say "I need that". Everyone else, even Scotland, can perfectly survive with 6 fewer infantries.

No idea how he would argue around that.

 

[Heindrich]

Will have to watch the video, but native coexistence is imo the worst of all options.

You can suppress natives with a 1k stack. In some cases you need 2k.

Out of all possible colonizers only Brittany can say "I need that". Everyone else, even Scotland, can perfectly survive with 6 fewer infantries.

No idea how he would argue around that.

E122, 17:30 -ish

The only occasion where I'd agree with him is if at least 2 of the 3 following conditions were true:

1. You are a small country facing serious military dangers and cannot afford any troops to be sent away from home.
2. You have major economic issues and cannot afford to maintain army maintenance in peace time.
3. The colonies within range have large/fierce native populations and it's the early game, so fighting them will take a significant effort. (Taiwan, Philippines)

 

[Dominion]

He doesn't even give a reason. Just says "The AI cheats ", which has to be his favorite sentence right after "I didn't screw up. It's a bug."

The AI gets an extra diplomat as well. Doesn't mean you have to rush diplomatic ideas as your first idea group no matter which nation you play.

Completely agree with Heindrich on this one. The only nations I could imagine picking this up would be SEA nations pre-1500. That's it. Nothing in Europe except for MAYBE Brittany should ever choose it.

 

[Incompetent]

He doesn't even give a reason. Just says "The AI cheats ", which has to be his favorite sentence right after "I didn't screw up. It's a bug."

Does the AI actually cheat on this, though? It used to cheat, but since El Dorado, my impression was that the AI was simply told to pick Native Coexistence all the time.

As for the actual question of which policy is best, it's complicated. One factor to consider is that you'll probably have to keep maintenance above minimum if you want to garrison your colonies. This can be a significant expense if you're playing a relatively peaceful game. Same goes for Hunt for the Seven Cities: your conquistador's army needs some maintenance in order to survive any hostile natives it encounters, but that's effectively raising the cost of all your armies. (I don't think you need a major economic crisis to turn your army maintenance slider down in peacetime - there are usually lots of things to spend your money on in the early game.)

 

[Dominion]

New question (old one below in quotes):

Assigning territory to the nobility removes LA for its manpower modifier and force limit as well as other modifiers depending on their loyalty.

Why does my tax total increase when I assign a province to the nobility? Seems like a bug to me.

Three quick questions:

- Do land units take damage whenever a regiment dies, similar to naval units?
- If so, which units take damage? Adjacent, deployed or all?
- What kind of damage do they take? Does it work like casualty damage which directly translates into morale damage or is a modifier like the daily tick, which lowers your morale but does not count as damage?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Pompan]

Concerning diplovassalisation.
Is it correct that the richer you are compared to the nation you want to diplovassalise the worser the "economic power compared to (your nation)" modifier becomes?
Eg. I had a nationwide developement of about 2000 and I wanted to diplovassalise a certain nation with about 50 developement.
The power of the modifier in this scenario were -68.
Seems kind of weird to me. Am I missing something?

 

[Heindrich]

Concerning diplovassalisation.
Is it correct that the richer you are compared to the nation you want to diplovassalise the worser the "economic power compared to (your nation)" modifier becomes?
Eg. I had a nationwide developement of about 2000 and I wanted to diplovassalise a certain nation with about 50 developement.
The power of the modifier in this scenario were -68.
Seems kind of weird to me. Am I missing something?

No, the more development you have in relation to the guy you want to vassalize, the smaller that penalty becomes. That said, I don't know the exact maths, but it's very hard to diplo-vassalize anyone with more than 2 or 3 provinces regardless of your size. If I want a vassal, I usually just force it on them via war. The only times that I diplo-vassalize is usually when a country loses a lot of territory in war and is left with only 1 or 2 provinces. You can then diplovassalize easily and use their cores to declare war with reconquest CB, so you can expand into an area without taking much AE.

 

[Pompan]

Thanks!
It seems weird though since IIRC from my experience the modifier seems to become more negative the greater the economic gap is. But that wouldn't make any sene, heh

Btw
If I have two colonial nations as subjects under me can they declare war on each other?

 

[Heindrich]

Thanks!
It seems weird though since IIRC from my experience the modifier seems to become more negative the greater the economic gap is. But that wouldn't make any sene, heh

Btw
If I have two colonial nations as subjects under me can they declare war on each other?

You may have misread the number, or perhaps they developed their provinces inbetween when you checked, or your autonomy increased (perhaps you increased to avoid rebellions post-war), or they decreased their autonomy. I am 99% sure that the comparison is made between autonomy modified development.

And no, your own subjects cannot declare war on each other. They may start their own wars against natives though, but I've never seen them do this without a major military advantage.

 

[Incompetent]

Concerning diplovassalisation.
Is it correct that the richer you are compared to the nation you want to diplovassalise the worser the "economic power compared to (your nation)" modifier becomes?
Eg. I had a nationwide developement of about 2000 and I wanted to diplovassalise a certain nation with about 50 developement.
The power of the modifier in this scenario were -68.
Seems kind of weird to me. Am I missing something?

No, it becomes easier as you gain more development, if the target stays the same. However, your development is weighed up against the *square* of the prospective vassal's development, and I think it only takes into account development from states (which I'd guess is about 900 in your case, if the formula on the wiki checks out). So in practice, if a minor country does even a small amount of development by spending monarch points, it becomes much harder to diplovassalise and it's not easy to compensate for this by blobbing out yourself. Likewise if the target gains provinces, as Heindrich says.

 

[Threshold]

Concerning diplovassalisation.
Is it correct that the richer you are compared to the nation you want to diplovassalise the worser the "economic power compared to (your nation)" modifier becomes?
Eg. I had a nationwide developement of about 2000 and I wanted to diplovassalise a certain nation with about 50 developement.
The power of the modifier in this scenario were -68.
Seems kind of weird to me. Am I missing something?

Note that this value runs from -90 to +30, thus a better way of looking at it is that you currently have 22 out of a possible 120 points.

Also note that the formula on the wiki states your production + tax values (not manpower), divided by the square of the development of the country you're attempting to diplovassalize. This formula isn't actually perfectly accurate (for one, I have noticed in my own testing that increasing your manpower development does affect it), but it is a reasonable first approximation.

In other words, a 50 development country will require that you have about nine times as much production + tax development as if you were attempting to diplovassalize a (fairly typical) 16 or 17 development OPM. So they're usually going to be next to impossible unless you're massive.

Heindrich is correct that the development used in the formula (or at the very least in your part of the equation, which is what really matters) is in fact autonomy-modified development.

 

[Heindrich]

Heindrich is correct that the development used in the formula (or at the very least in your part of the equation, which is what really matters) is in fact autonomy-modified development.

I noticed that one because I played Ming a lot, and there's a bug where I have no Celestial Empire autonomy floor in the first month that I load into the game, so I'd load in, find that I'm able to vassalize one of the Tibetan factions, but if I let the month tick, I cannot diplovassalize cos the 50% floor kicked in.