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Are you guys still going to sit there and act like the Egyptian depictions of Nubians did not vary? Or deny the overlap of even images from Kushite Upper Nubia with Egyptian art conventions?

Mary Lefkowitz, who has made a career off of being an Anti-Afro Centrist(and was involved in a hugely public snafu regarding another white author, Martin Bernal and some Afrocentrist scholars), said it best:

"The Nubian tribute-bearers are painted in two skin tones, black and dark brown. These tones do not necessarily represent actual skin tones in real life but may serve to distinguish each tribute-bearer from the next in a row in which the figures overlap. Alternatively, the brown-skinned people may be of Nubian origin, and the black-skinned ones may be farther south 9Trigger 1978, 33). The shading of skin tones in Egyptian tomb paintings, which varies considerably, may not be a certain criterion for distinguishing race. Specific symbols of ethnic identity can also vary. Identifying race in Egyptian representational art, again, is difficult to do- probably because race (as opposed to ethnic affiliation, that is, Egyptians versus all non-Egyptians) was not a criterion for differentiation used by the ancient Egyptians...
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Ps. Just because my position on the indigenous African origin of the AE (and that they fell within the range of variation for indigenous African people) is shared by black supremacists and Afrocentrist doesn't make me one, nor does it make the position I have invalid. That's like saying white Americans who want more gun freedoms are white supremacists because some white supremacist groups believe that and so the argument is invalid. That's a ridiculous failure of logic.

Are you going to ignore that Egypt was a dominant cultural factor in the region that lent its art and religious beliefs to the Canaanites, and that there is a great deal of evidence pointing to the Egyptians introducing such things to the Nubians? How the Nubian mythology, for example, has very clearly distinct Egyptian loans which stick out massively from native Nubian deities?

You are also trying to use a few fallacies:

Association fallacy: I never called you an Afrocentrist, I had used the term "Black Egyptian Hypothesis" once. Also, modern Blacks use hair products, so do Egyptians, ergo Egyptians = Black?

Post hoc ergo propter hoc: Citing Egyptian influences on Nubia as proof that Nubians are Egyptians, which, as an argument, is like saying the modern English people have no genetic continuity with the Celts. The Nubians did not share a great deal of similarity with Egyptians artistically until the Kushite period, as you mentioned. The only problem is that the Kushite period was preceded by Egyptian invasions and conquest, which would be like me using the picture of the mixed-race Egyptian in my original post as proof that Egyptians were originally Italians, whereas I instead recognized the character in the figure to be mixed-race and thus paler than he should be, and ensured that it was known that it was a Roman-styled depiction, not an Egyptian one. This is basically arguing that a high-population empire, one of the most powerful of its time, fiercely nationalistic, and incredibly wealthy, was influenced by a group of tribes to its South, ones that it conquered, rather than the Egyptians influencing them.

Straw Man fallacy: Nowhere in my argument did I say that the Egyptians were white. I said, very clearly, "Red/brown" and compared them to modern Arabs. There's more than just two races. This could also be considered Ad Hominem. You're also ignoring that I also brought up the fact that Egyptians use wigs and such. Are you seriously trying to say because Black Americans use them today, Egyptians were Black?

Hair irons weren't invented until the 19th century. You know who else uses hair products? Just about everyone who cares what their hair looks like. Hair care is not a race-specific invention. The Greeks, Hebrews, Assyrians, and Vikings all put in a large load of caring for their hair, and many of their descendants still do today.

Ignoratio Elenchi: You present me with evidence that Nubians vary in color in Egyptian art. Okay, now apply it. This does not defeat the argument I have made, which goes far beyond Egyptian art and extends into multiple independent scientific analyses doing their damnedest to figure out what ancient Egyptians looked like, and coming to the conclusion that they most likely looked like modern Egyptians.

You also quoted an Afrocentrist as a main point, which sorta goes against the idea of unbiased judgement and you NOT being an Afrocentrist. While I will go with the benefit of the doubt and say that you are, indeed, not an Afrocentrist and you just thought it a suitable quote, it is still an unreliable source Ethnocentrism is NOT a viable source of information. If you would not trust a Eurocentrist, you should not trust an Afrocentrist.

So, how about that how th Egyptian language is Afro-Asiatic (the group Arabic, Hebrew, and Berber are in), rather than Nilo-Saharan (the group Nubians are in) or Niger-Congo (the group Bantus, Congolese, and West Africans are in), or even Khoishan (the once dominant people of South Africa pushed into a smaller area by Bantu migrations)? All of the major Black African linguistic groups do not match with Egyptian linguistically. Also, comparing "cultural practices" of Afro-Americans (hair care, quotes because that's not particularly cultural, but to my understanding it was framed to be such) and Egyptians does not have any correlation, as most Afro-Americans descend from West Africa in the Ghana and Angola regions, which are entirely distinct culturally, linguistically, and genetically from Egyptians both past and present.


When you are going against near-global scientific result, consensus, and the official stance of the Egyptian government that Egyptians were brown back then, then you better provide some very compelling evidence that they were not so as to defeat the worldwide scientific and anthropological stance.

Of course, you didn't quote me to begin with, so you might've just missed me, in which case this is intended to be my response to your response to my response, not necessarily to the other gentleman involved in this debate.
 
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Somalian horsemen:


Vintage photograph of Somalian "wrestlers":


Ethiopian Coptic Christian with Sistrum:



Ethiopian Coptic Christians with Sistrums:

Somalis and Ethiopians aren't exactly Egyptians, if you haven't noticed. "Copt" is a difficult term, because it's both a multiethnic religion and an ethnicity.

Here are ethnic Copts, the Christians of Egypt who use a medieval form of the Egyptian language for church use and, for some, in everyday life:

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And, as you sourced them, Fellah:
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An Upper-Egyptian Fellah:
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Whose red/brown skin matches Egyptian art fairly well, funny enough.

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Now, I will admit the Ethiopians and Somalis look different. They are, indeed, Black and Afro-Asiatic. However, facial structure reminiscent of other Afro-Asiatic peoples remains, and in Ethiopia there's a fairly clear difference:

Amhara (Afro-Asiatic, ancestry from Yemen):
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And Haile Selassie, a famous Amhara:
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Tigray (Afro-Asiatic, related to Amhara):
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And now, the Nilo-Saharan Gwama people of Ethiopia:
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And now Nubians:

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Lastly, Somalis:

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The Ethiopian and Somali Afro-Asiatic peoples most certainly are Black, albeit with characteristic features. However, this overall is a long way away from our topic: Egyptians. I have simply provided pictures for reference, rather than vague descriptions like "Ethiopian Copt" which could by any number of the various ethnicities.

However, they're a very useful comparison for lining up the Copts and Fellah with, who have a fairly Arabian skin tone all things considered.

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Karlingid, I will respond to you after work. You've constructed a few strawmen of your own and also seem strangely fixated on the hair point when I used that to state that the long hair in art wasnt necessarily what their hair looked like, not that it made them black (how do you define black btw)?

Also what person i quoted was an afrocentrist? Point them out and I will remove the citation but I am genuinely curious
 

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Mary Lefkowitz, who has made a career off of being an Anti-Afro Centrist(and was involved in a hugely public snafu regarding another white author, Martin Bernal and some Afrocentrist scholars), said it best:

"The Nubian tribute-bearers are painted in two skin tones, black and dark brown. These tones do not necessarily represent actual skin tones in real life but may serve to distinguish each tribute-bearer from the next in a row in which the figures overlap. Alternatively, the brown-skinned people may be of Nubian origin, and the black-skinned ones may be farther south 9Trigger 1978, 33). The shading of skin tones in Egyptian tomb paintings, which varies considerably, may not be a certain criterion for distinguishing race. Specific symbols of ethnic identity can also vary. Identifying race in Egyptian representational art, again, is difficult to do- probably because race (as opposed to ethnic affiliation, that is, Egyptians versus all non-Egyptians) was not a criterion for differentiation used by the ancient Egyptians...

I may have misinterpreted this, and for that I am genuinely sorry.
 
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Also what other people tend to gloss over is that the Egyptians were well known for using wigs, hair extensions, hair gels, and curling tongs.(many black Americans use these very same implements today). So posting pictures of idealized Egyptians with long straight hair means nothing in light of how we know they modified their hair, and also the symbolic nature of Egyptian art. The rules vary by context.

Here's what I was discussing about hair. My argument was that styling hair had nothing to do with their ethnic makeup.

As for what I consider Black:
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Those are not Black.

These:
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Those are.





To be perfectly honest, I think Prince of Egypt nails ethnicity:

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Egyptian

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Arab

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Canaanite



Side by sides:

Egyptian and Canaanite:
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Canaanite and Arab:
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Egyptian and Arab:
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The sequel has Subsaharans in it briefly around here:
In the line, there's a couple. They represent, most likely, Nubians and/or related peoples. I put this here mostly for contrast.
 
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No, no, no, this thread's topic was Algerians and Tunisians, not Egyptians, not Ethiopians, not Nubians!
Christ, the thread's derailed so hard we're derailing from a derail!
We were talking about Ethiopians too. I actually wanted to provide pictures for that, but Karlingid was faster.
 

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Of course I was. As a mix of the Karlings and all the Islamic blobs, I represent the worst nightmares of every CK2 player.

I move at the speed of Game Over.
Please stop, you're bringing up horrible memories of my last game where I had the Karlings inherit Byzantium. Shit was whacked.
 

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Please stop, you're bringing up horrible memories of my last game where I had the Karlings inherit Byzantium. Shit was whacked.
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I'm happy I was never in your situation.
 

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Fun fact: Ethiopians (Amhara) dont consider themself as black but Semitic. Actually, they even have their own insult for black people (Shangalla).

I personally know a few Amhara, and they've got reason for that. That is, of course, because Amharic is a Semitic language, and the Amhara were migrants from Yemen. They probably looked more like Arabs in the past, but once they migrated, their skin darkened, but not too much, and a good bit otherwise betrays Semitic origins (mentioned above, facial and body structure, as well as cultural practice)
 

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Please stop, you're bringing up horrible memories of my last game where I had the Karlings inherit Byzantium. Shit was whacked.

So now we've managed to not only shift from the original topic but into an entirely different game altogether. Fascinating.
 
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So now we've managed to not only shift from the original topic but into an entirely different game altogether. Fascinating.
Just wait until we derail into games of different genres made by different companies. ;)
 
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Nah, that would be too quick. Like, quicker than Sid Meier killed his franchise with Beyond Earth.

In all fairness, the warning signs existed when Civ V came out.

Oops.
 
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Karlingid I will be off work in a couple of hours and no foul on the quote, I was pretty sure I hadn't cited any afrocentrists so I was genuinely surprised.

Once again, give me a definition for black vs brown. As you clearly have a certain look in mind when talking about black? That'd make it easier to respond to you without misconceptions.

Also you forgot to include Cushitic and Chadic languages which are part of the Afroasiatic family tree. Old Nubian was not what Lower Nubians or Upper Nubian Kushites spoke. That language was brought into the region after Meroe collapsed. Meroitic used to be written in hieroglyphs before the Meroitic script developed, Meroitic itself still hasn't been definitively classified as Nilo-Saharan or Afroasiatic.

Also Ethiopians came from Yemen? It seems to me to be the other way around, the Ethiopian Kingdom of Axum used to control parts of Southern Yemen, not the other way around.

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Sorry the map posted twice having problems posting on my phone
 

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Hey, now hold on a minute. The Rising Tide expansion was actually really good
Yes, but it still failed to add some interesting mechanics tied to just one civilization. In Civ V Venetians, Carthaginians, Polynesians, the Iroquois, Mayans, all had some unique mechanic which separated them from others. In BE every faction just feels the same.
 
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Also you forgot to include Cushitic and Chadic languages which are part of the Afroasiatic family tree. Old Nubian was not what Lower Nubians or Upper Nubian Kushites spoke. That language was brought into the region after Meroe collapsed. Meroitic used to be written in hieroglyphs before the Meroitic script developed, Meroitic itself still hasn't been definitively classified as Nilo-Saharan or Afroasiatic.
Actually, it had been classified as Nilo-Saharan recently, with beeing part of the Eastern Sudanic branch. Here an estimated language tree (Stil work in progress tho, and it might be possible that the one or other language might switch its place in the future):
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Also Ethiopians came from Yemen? It seems to me to be the other way around, the Ethiopian Kingdom of Axum used to control parts of Southern Yemen, not the other way around.
Technically speaking, not Ethiopians came from Yemen, but Sabaen immigrants in the early first millenium BC. They brought Semitic language and Sabaen culture into the horn of Africa. Thats why for example the Sabaen moon god Almaqah was the main god of the Aksumite empire until Ezana converted to Christianity in 340 AD.


Ps: I am Swaggernaut from Historum. I would suggest to move this discussion either over there or to the Paradox-intern history forum.
 
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