EUIV - Development Diary - 28th of April 2020

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Good morning! Those of you who have been watching the dev clash with a keen eye will have noticed that a new religion has appeared on the map, emanating from the Kingdom of Bohemia. Today I’ll talk about the Hussite faith and its associated content, as well as the new mission tree for Bohemia coming with the Emperor expansion.

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The Hussite faith may now experience a resurgence.

The Hussites were in many ways a precursor to the Protestant Reformation. It was a very broad movement encompassing both moderates who merely wished to reform the Catholic Church and radicals who denounced the Church entirely in favour of strictly Biblical authority. Jan Hus, the leader of the movement and its namesake, was executed as a heretic in 1415, sparking a series of conflicts known as the Hussite Wars which lasted until 1434. This was not the end of the Hussites however, as the wars ended in an uneasy agreement between the Church and the moderate Hussite faction, and many people in Bohemia still believed that Jan Hus knew the truth.

In our 1444 start date, Bohemia begins with several Hussite provinces, but retains its Catholic state religion. Early in the game the Return of the Hussites event will fire, which gives Bohemia the opportunity to elect Jiri z Podebrad, a Hussite noble, as King. This event chain has been reworked to allow for three outcomes:
  • Bohemia adopts a Hussite state church and permanently breaks with Rome
  • The Hussites and Catholics reconcile, causing the remaining Hussites in Bohemia to revert to Catholicism. This is the path the AI will usually pursue.
  • Bohemia pursues an aggressive policy of Catholic orthodoxy and strives to convert the remaining Hussites to win the favour of the Pope.
When the Protestant Reformation begins, Hussite nations will be given the choice of whether to retain their unique Hussite faith or convert the nation and all Hussite provinces to Protestant instead. Hussites are only eligible to become Emperor under the Religious Peace.

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The Adamites were a curious sect that believed that church services should be held entirely in the nude. Note: numbers are not final

The Hussite faith uses the Church Aspects mechanic, much like Protestant nations. Hussites get an entirely unique list of Church Aspects to distinguish them from Protestants. We’ve aimed to make these Aspects, as well as the base bonuses of the religion, relatively powerful to offset their diplomatic isolation. And of course no rework of Bohemian content would be complete without a button to enact Regular Defenestrations. Here’s the full list in script for those curious:

Code:
clerical_poverty_aspect = {
    cost = 100
    modifier = {
        church_influence_modifier = -0.1
        stability_cost_modifier = -0.15
    }
}

punishment_of_sins_aspect = {
    cost = 100
    modifier = {
        nobles_influence_modifier = -0.1
        yearly_corruption = -0.05
    }
}

orphan_hetmans_aspect = {
    cost = 100
    modifier = {
        shock_damage_received = -0.1
    }
}

bread_and_wine_aspect = {
    cost = 100
    modifier = {
        tolerance_own = 1
        global_trade_goods_size_modifier = 0.05
    }
}

sola_scriptura_aspect = {
    cost = 100
    modifier = {
        warscore_cost_vs_other_religion = -0.1
    }
}


adamite_services_aspect = {
    cost = 100
    modifier = {
        culture_conversion_cost = -0.2
    }
}


pacifism_aspect = {
    cost = 100
    modifier = {
        stability_cost_to_declare_war = 1
        improve_relation_modifier = 0.3
    }

    ai_will_do = {
        factor = 0
    }
}

regular_defenestrations_aspect = {
    cost = 100
    modifier = {
        harsh_treatment_cost = -0.33
    }
}

taborite_resurgence_aspect = {
    cost = 100
    modifier = {
        global_manpower_modifier = 0.2
    }
}


freedom_to_preach_aspect = {
    cost = 100
    modifier = {
        religious_unity = 0.1
        tolerance_heretic = 1
    }
}

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This is the new Bohemia mission tree, available to owners of the Emperor expansion after the release of 1.30. The upper left branch concerns the matter of the Hussites in Bohemia. The requirements and rewards change depending on which path the nation takes through the event chain. One notable reward is that if Bohemia becomes Hussite and breaks with Rome, a Hussite Center of Reformation will spawn in Prague upon completion of the Hussite Resurgence mission. To avoid an overwhelmingly non-Catholic Europe (as we’ve seen in dev clash), we’ve decided to make this CoR last only 100 years rather than until the end of the Age of Reformation.

At various points in the not-so-distant past, the Kings of Bohemia held prestigious titles such as Holy Roman Emperor, King of Poland, and King of Hungary. The majority of the Bohemian mission tree is aimed at regaining these titles and cementing a dominant position in Central Europe and the Empire, and rewards include powerful Restoration of Union CB’son Poland and Hungary. With Hungary under the Bohemian heel, they must contend with the greatest threat to Christendom: the Ottoman Turks. Bohemia is able to subjugate both Brandenburg and Saxony, keeping them as subjects without the usual penalties for subjugating electors if they are able to first Humiliate Austria. The Reformatio Sigismundi mission requires Bohemia to become the Emperor and pass the Perpetual Diet reform, which then rewards you with a 20% bonus to Imperial Authority Growth. The final mission in the Imperial branch, Peace in Europe, requires you to expand the borders of the HRE to 250 provinces while being at peace, and rewards +1 Monarch Diplomatic Skill as well as -5 Years of Separatism for the rest of the game.

That’s all for this week! The dev diary schedule for the next few weeks is content-focused, with next week’s dev diary being about the Burgundian Inheritance and their shiny new mission tree. So stay tuned for more mission trees and other associated content. And remember to catch the weekly Dev Clash every Wednesday at 15:00 CEST at https://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive. If you can’t watch the stream, the vods are posted on youtube later. Go Milan!
 

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Looks very nice!

does the Bohemian Vasalls and releasables (as seen in the mission tree) will also have unique missions?

Are there more Events /Eventchains related to hussites or/and bohemia? (how many?)
 

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One question however: What is the best way for a Hussite Country to achieve religious peace? Only a protestant can lead the league war, so under current mechanics it's a dicy prospect of making sure neither side gets an upper hand. Would there be an alternate path, maybe apart from that imperial incident where the Emperor can choose to give up Protestant Supremacy?
 

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Nice to have a Hussite CoR.

About this, I just reread the catholic rework dev diary (24/03) and there is no mention of it so:
Have you consider adding Centers of Counter-Reformation (CoCR?). For example, as the "harsh" decision for the council of Trent, instead of "+25% resistance to reformation centers", the bonus could be "instate centers of counter-reformation". Those CoCRs would either cancel the progress of a current CoR, or convert back protestant/reformed/anglican/hussite neighbouring provinces to catholicism.
Then the middle/conciliatory position could still be "+25% resistance to reformation center", which would differentiate the two paths nicely in my opinion.
 

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In our 1444 start date, Bohemia begins with several Hussite provinces, but retains its Catholic state religion. Early in the game the Return of the Hussites event will fire, which gives Bohemia the opportunity to elect Jiri z Podebrad, a Hussite noble, as King. This event chain has been reworked to allow for three outcomes:
  • Bohemia adopts a Hussite state church and permanently breaks with Rome
  • The Hussites and Catholics reconcile, causing the remaining Hussites in Bohemia to revert to Catholicism. This is the path the AI will usually pursue.
  • Bohemia pursues an aggressive policy of Catholic orthodoxy and strives to convert the remaining Hussites to win the favour of the Pope.
When the Protestant Reformation begins, Hussite nations will be given the choice of whether to retain their unique Hussite faith or convert the nation and all Hussite provinces to Protestant instead. Hussites are only eligible to become Emperor under the Religious Peace.
Im quite critical of this. It is definitely better than what we have now, but I feel there is much more that can be done here to make it more accurate.

The Second option should really not convert all hussite provinces to catholicism, it should be more gradual. I'd say taking that decision should give you tolerance of heretics +5 and give you decisions and later events to convert the remainder or let them live in peace.

Also, when the Protestant Reformation happens, wouldnt it make more sense to convert Hussite to Reformed or allow the player the option between Protestant and Reformed?

Furthermore, I feel that if Hussite dissapears it should leave a permanent province modifier on the provinces that makes sure that later in the protestant reformation these are the first to flip back, preferrably to Reformed.

Baseline:

  1. Allow for a gradual reconciliation
  2. Reformed in favor of Protestant
Another point:

Please have another look at this suggestion thread about Bohemian Provinces and their names and shapes:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/better-bohemia-map-suggestion.1345060/



This is the new Bohemia mission tree, available to owners of the Emperor expansion after the release of 1.30. The upper left branch concerns the matter of the Hussites in Bohemia. The requirements and rewards change depending on which path the nation takes through the event chain. One notable reward is that if Bohemia becomes Hussite and breaks with Rome, a Hussite Center of Reformation will spawn in Prague upon completion of the Hussite Resurgence mission. To avoid an overwhelmingly non-Catholic Europe (as we’ve seen in dev clash), we’ve decided to make this CoR last only 100 years rather than until the end of the Age of Reformation.
With regards to the missions, would it be possible to have some interactions with Jan Jiskra who became the High Captain of Upper Hungary in 1445 and czech mercenaries under the brotherhood forcing Catholics to perform Hussite Rituals? Maybe allowing the Bohemians to either work with the Hungarians against this or with the Hussites against the Catholics in Hungary?

And what about Ladislaus Posthumous who was still technically the heir to Bohemia as his father was King of Bohemia? Shouldnt there be a mission for Bohemia to fight Frederick III to install Ladislaus on the throne?
 
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Now, what would also be cool is once the Reformation starts, you get the option to become one with Protestant and be one of many state churches, classified as Protestantism. If you take this option by event, everything Hussite releated would switch to Protestant (your provinces, state religion, advisors etc). Ofc there would also be the option to keep doing do your own thing, much like Anglican.
 
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Realtively few but powerful missions, okay. Can we get some info on flavour events regarding bohemia?

And if Bohemia choses hussites to become protestants, will that affect all hussites or only bohemian hussites and will the prague CoR turn protestant?

Do hussites princes incur the usual heretic modifiet to IA and if yes, does the AI Emperor finally try to rectify this and actually target heretics and enforce peace?
 

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So PU over Poland and Hungary, vassalizating cb against Saxony and Brandenburg, 1 extra diplo and -5 separatism? All with a bonkers starting ruler, claims on the Ottomans and increased IA? Time to play some Bohemia... :eek:
 
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How far this Hussite center of reformation in Prague would convert provinces? Hussite Spain?
 
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Oh finally the Burgundian Mission Tree next week? I have been itching for this since it was first teased in the first dev diary for this expansion.
 

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So Hussite Bohemia doesn't cause any imperial incident?
 

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When the Protestant Reformation begins, Hussite nations will be given the choice of whether to retain their unique Hussite faith or convert the nation and all Hussite provinces to Protestant instead.
Called it! (in a thread when they were first discussed).

I see a new interesting "pacifist" effect (increased stab cost of wars) - will the CK2 converter Jains use it and is there any hope that it would one day be a part of the Jain religion being integrated into the core game?
 

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I also think it would be good if we would get an imperial incident if bohemia will go hussites.
You'll introduce this new mechanic and the first state (and elector!) that will change his religion inside the HRE should be at least in discussion with the emperor
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