EUIV - Development Diary - 14th of January 2020

[MrNewVegas]

All Theocracy Governments will have access to the Global Crusade except Pagans, and the Global Crusade reform is mutually exclusive with the One State Under God reform.


Numbers are not final

Yeah okay so theocracies already have access to a WS cost reduction, right? So there are now two, and they stack. I guess the one we have now also stacks with the change faith reduction one that's new

 

[Olterin]

Ah, a solid morning read Please, keep the length (and quality) up, a good read is always welcome even if the changes themselves aren't quite as much. I love the naval changes, but the administration ones I'm on the fence about. I feel like it still won't make it a real consideration whether to expand more up until a size where you blot out the sun anyway... and on the lower end, make it quite annoying for Duchies to upgrade themselves to Kingdoms and Kingdoms upgrade themselves to Empires (300 and 1000 dev required respectively, but admin capacity of 100 and 300 respectively). Quick math - to not sustain penalties, a Kingdom would have to have only 2/9 of their total dev in states, so approximately 22% of their total land stated (i.e. 66 dev in states, that's quite easily just the capital state after developing for institutions).

Would definitely have to play around with the numbers some more, perhaps this does offer a meaningful brake on expansion to the point where developing your lands becomes a viable alternative... except, you know, this penalty also hits development you do yourself instead of conquering it from others. Furthermore, it seems reasonably feasible to go to a 20% penalty, so ... shrug. First impression - harsh penalties, but unfortunately also hit internal development thus not really accomplishing their goal of stifling outward expansion.

Edited question separated out to own post.

 

[RMS Oceanic]

"+100% Stability Cost Modifier +50% AE Impact -50% Improve Relations -5% Administrative Efficiency" at 100% so, literally no reason not to go over your limit?

Lose Admin Efficiency will hurt eventually. Wars slow down and grow more costly.

The average old world dev cost is around 22-24,000, so be prepared to have half of the Admin Efficiency you're used to by then.

 

[Durgur]

At long last! The Cornish have had justice! Far too long have they had to suffer under the false pretense of being Welsh, but no longer! Now you must continue on with your crusade against the wrongly cultured provinces of the world! Yesterday it was the Maltese, today the Cornish, and tomorrow? Tomorrow the Icelanders shall finally have their representation!

 

[lolada]

One can game around that conversion thing and trade companies if going for one-faiths. Just convert specific TC land later when you don't care - for example keeping hindu or buddhist alive longer seems beneficial. At some point you get so rich anyway.

 

[Groogy]

Can you specify what tier the government reforms are? That is important to seeing their value.

Sorry I already delayed the dev diary by 30 minutes and didn't want to delay it even more

 

[TheDungen]

1. the state thing seems complicated and I'll have to see it in use before I can comment on it.

2.I like that trade companies are opened up everywhere but I dislike that you can't have them in provinces of your own religion, it's a huge nerf to the arabs and indian muslims who used to be able to have trade companies in the Malay Archipelago, also their conversion through trade mechanic is now something you don't ever want to use.

3.the naval game those seems like nice fixes but they don't fix what's really the problem with the naval game, the fact that if your navy is in the same sea province as another navy and you're at war you 100% start a battle. Many of the sea zones are incomprehensibly vast and unlike land there is little to no geography to limit where the other navy might be found. This is a huge boon to strong naval powers because it makes it relatively easy for them to make it completely impossible for a weaker naval power to use their navy at all.
And as for the transports, why keep them at all?! Transports are a boring mechanic and should be removed. Just have them be a resource or something, and let us move armies over sea the way we do in HoI4.
More attrition for transported armies will just make even more absolutely certain no one will ever pick any colonial policy except the no revolts one, by making transporting troops aroudn even more of a chore. And not a big fan of either marines or the coastal defence buildings. One seems to give an even bigger advantage to those who already have a strong navy and a strong pool of sailors, the other seems to cement the idea that the weaker naval power should just hide their ships in the port and have them sit there.

4.The portueugese ideas, Either fix the size of the oceans or remove Portugal colonial range idea! I can't believe you revisited them and didn't do it. In game Portugal pretty much colonizes the inverse of what they did in reality because they can reach mexico la plata and the Caribbean before anyone else and thus completely ignores brazil. Meanwhile spain goes around the coast of africa towards the east indies.

5. It's nice the Theocracies now have the option to stay theocracies but does this means that the reforms to reform out of theocracy are now a lot further down? Because in that case that is unfortunate because unlike republics government reform is the only way to get out of theocracy.

 

[wobarch]

I also like that you did a lot of goverment reforms but there is still a lot room for more I hope. I miss even some more european unique reforms - france, netherlands / dutch minors and bohemia esp.
Also I miss some more reforms for trade republics, (the hanse???)
- as a lot of them are focused on revolution reforms
But besides that a good step for more unique gameplay

 

[Groogy]

@Groogy will there be any love/changes for merchant republics? Their parties are a bit underwhelming - as are most of the Gov reforms/province limit etc. I like the idea of being able to trade company from Alexandria to India as Venice though!

We want to make MR's more fun to play, but we haven't done anything as of right now

 

[Dumbledood]

Currently with Trade companies, if you try and colonise inside trade company land (e.g. India), your colonists cant change the culture/religion of the province. If there is a trade company in every trade node, would colonists be able to change the culture and religion of a province anywhere they colonise?

@Groogy @Johan

 

[Howl]

"+100% Stability Cost Modifier +50% AE Impact -50% Improve Relations -5% Administrative Efficiency" at 100% so, literally no reason not to go over your limit?

As I read this, it translates to: Unpreventable world wide coalition if you even remotely go for world conquest.
+lots of AE while not being able to improve relations?

Instead of making things interesting you insist on testing the players patience with nonsense while trying to force them to not play by any/all means necessary.
There was a time where you guys knew how to make and balance good strategy games; how did it come to this is the million dollars question? So sad.

It may help if you explain, why the changes are bad instead of just stating that they are. Unlikely, but it might.

 

[Awesome21321321]

Lose Admin Efficiency will hurt eventually. Wars slow down and grow more costly.

The average old world dev cost is around 22-24,000, so be prepared to have half of the Admin Efficiency you're used to by then.

Those are per 100%, 100% absolutism is 40% admin efficiency 5% is fucking meaningless so many of these changes are complete random memes with no purpose or meaning but then again that could be said for the majority of changes after DDRJake

 

[Meka66]

It's nice the Theocracies now have the option to stay theocracies but does this means that the reforms to reform out of theocracy are now a lot further down? Because in that case that is unfortunate because unlike republics government reform is the only way to get out of theocracy.

The question of secularisation is still a Tier-5 reform so you can still choose to switch out of Theocracy at that point if you choose to.

 

[Razmorg]

Can you expand on this a bit please?

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...development-diary-6th-of-august-2019.1229799/

Pretty sure he's just talking about the change to mercenaries where they have their own limited manpower pool.

 

[aono]

If there is a trade company in every trade node, would colonists be able to change the culture and religion of a province anywhere they colonise?

Actually, I'd like to see this implemented, at least for provinces with local population.

 

[Olterin]

@Groogy - does the Penalty for going over your governance limit scale infinitely past 100%? (Because boy will it hurt if so)

Or some reduced scaling?

 

[moyang]

Mission to Civilize reform not actually converting the colonized province feels weird. But if it actually did, we can't assign the province to trade company...

 

[Piotrzeci]

I am not really sure about this TC restrictions. Hoped colonizing Siberia would give Russia merchants to steer from there.
Also I guess there are changes to Muslim Propagate Religion? It would be weird to have a free convert everywhere and also for every TC province to become an invalid TC after converting.
And how about TC regions keeping their religion and culture upon colonizing now?

Also wut "Blockades no longer have the Goods Produced or Trade Power maluses." why? They are already so not impactful that the worse effect is a -25 ADM event.

Marines don't take attrition on seas? Still don't see their point. You still need to send an actual army to fight an enemy.

And just to confirm; reforms are still purely a Dhrama thing, right?

 

[RMS Oceanic]

Those are the maximum penalties, 100% absolutism is 40% admin efficiency 5% is fucking meaningless so many of these changes are complete random memes with no purpose or meaning but then again that could be said for the majority of changes after DDRJake

They're not the maximum.

Going over the limit has a scaling penalty which at 100% over the limit is:

• +100% Stability Cost Modifier
• +50% AE Impact
• -50% Improve Relations
• -5% Administrative Efficiency

I read this as at 100% you have -5% Admin Efficiency, at 200% you have -10% and so on. The same way Overextension has no upper limit to its penalties.

 

[BarrosRodrigues]

As I read this, it translates to: Unpreventable world wide coalition if you even remotely go for world conquest.
+lots of AE while not being able to improve relations?


It may help if you explain, why the changes are bad instead of just stating that they are. Unlikely, but it might.

Due to all the problems already in-game and with the projected changes the wall of text needed to explain everything would be longer than the great wall of China. This idiot is no longer willing to work for free especially because it would be all for nothing.
It is time to forget that Paradox or EU IV ever existed after +20k hours playing their games since 2012. It was a good run but they no longer make the kind of games I enjoy.