Did the same. I'm not going to wait for Target to get their s*** together or for P'dox to chastise them some more.JamesConnolly said:
EUIII Collectors Edition and Target (USA)?
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My patience with Target finally ran out. Since they said they'd have a display out on Sunday, and yet there isn't even a hint of them ever getting the game(still no listing on the website), I decided to just give up and get the regular version from Best Buy, since they actually had several copies and it was $35.
My patience has run out with Target too, sort of.
I am tired of playing the demo, but alas the CE is nowhere in sight. Honestly, I don't care whose fault it is that Target does not have the game. If you say January 23rd and its not there, then people are upset. If you had said Feb. 2 like the rest of Europe and it came in early, people would have been happy. Whether its the fault of Paradox or Target is irrelevant to me.
My friend has convinced me to play World of Warcraft for now, even though I love Pdox games, this seems like an entertaining alternative.
As for Target, I am confident that in a couple of months, they will still have the unsold CE on their shelves. I will swoop right in to buy after they mark it down.
In Conclusion,
GG Pdox and Target
I am tired of playing the demo, but alas the CE is nowhere in sight. Honestly, I don't care whose fault it is that Target does not have the game. If you say January 23rd and its not there, then people are upset. If you had said Feb. 2 like the rest of Europe and it came in early, people would have been happy. Whether its the fault of Paradox or Target is irrelevant to me.
My friend has convinced me to play World of Warcraft for now, even though I love Pdox games, this seems like an entertaining alternative.
As for Target, I am confident that in a couple of months, they will still have the unsold CE on their shelves. I will swoop right in to buy after they mark it down.
In Conclusion,
GG Pdox and Target
I didn't even know a CE was coming out until I saw this thread so I can't exactly complain. I will say that of the 3 Gamestops, Target, and Best Buy in my town only Best Buy had it on the shelves. Don't worry though PE, we bought 3 copies so I think Best Buy will be ordering some more. 
I wonder, has anyone from Paradox contacted Target about this whole mess? Maybe the people who set up this "exclusive" arrangement? Like everyone else, I could care less who is at fault, I just want to be able to buy the CE without having to have it shipped from Sweden.
If this drags on it can only end badly for everyone involved as the interest in the new release wanes, people pick the regular version elsewhere, etc. I would imagine there'll be a lot of unsold product being shipped back to Paradox.
If this drags on it can only end badly for everyone involved as the interest in the new release wanes, people pick the regular version elsewhere, etc. I would imagine there'll be a lot of unsold product being shipped back to Paradox.
Latest from Target
Hi everyone,
I've posted in these forums before, but important information is always worth repeating. We set a shipping to stores date for all our products and the product is always shipped on that day (otherwise that is communicated via press release). Retailers then stock their shelves based on their re-stock dates. This is normal procedures for publishers our size and the only other way of doing thing is to have a fleet of people employed only to ensure that your product is physically put up on shelf.
Target is a mass merchant and as such sets its shelves according to
planogram, while chains like Gamestop and EB Games normally take in the product the same day it ships or the next day.
I've looked into the Target specifics and have received confirmation that the internal date to start stocking the Collectors Edition is Jan 29 so that should mean you'll start seeing the product in your local store within soon - they've certainly ordered enough so provided they don't run out....
Kind regards
Susana Meza
Hi everyone,
I've posted in these forums before, but important information is always worth repeating. We set a shipping to stores date for all our products and the product is always shipped on that day (otherwise that is communicated via press release). Retailers then stock their shelves based on their re-stock dates. This is normal procedures for publishers our size and the only other way of doing thing is to have a fleet of people employed only to ensure that your product is physically put up on shelf.
Target is a mass merchant and as such sets its shelves according to
planogram, while chains like Gamestop and EB Games normally take in the product the same day it ships or the next day.
I've looked into the Target specifics and have received confirmation that the internal date to start stocking the Collectors Edition is Jan 29 so that should mean you'll start seeing the product in your local store within soon - they've certainly ordered enough so provided they don't run out....
Kind regards
Susana Meza
Susana - thanks for the update. I wanted to buy my CE at Target but due to this delay, apparently on their part, I bought direct from Paradox last week (before it sold out today). It does sound like there will be many CE copies available once they decide to actually sell them at Target.
Oh don't worry, my local Super Target doesn't have it, either!OHgamer said:
And it's still not on their website! Furthermore, no stores in my local area even have the regular edition; not EB, not BestBuy.
First, thanks to Suzana for replying. I hope putting her name out here last night didn't deluge her with phone calls. We just want to know, and I guess it worked.
PG, I guess I'll print out this thread with Suzana's comments and drive back down to my Super Target in a little while once rush hour traffic dies down. I'm in a suburb of Atlanta. I'll see if someone at Target can make heads or tails out of this thing. I'll report back within the next three hours.
PG, I guess I'll print out this thread with Suzana's comments and drive back down to my Super Target in a little while once rush hour traffic dies down. I'm in a suburb of Atlanta. I'll see if someone at Target can make heads or tails out of this thing. I'll report back within the next three hours.
Susana said:
Well, I just got back from my Super Target. I took this thread printed out, plus the actual press release from the web site, and finally a print out of what the actual Collector's Edition looks like from another page on the Paradox site.
I got someone at Target that really seemed to have his act together. He explained how Target works. I asked him to explain the "planogram" term Susana used in her post (above).
He told me that every TUESDAY they take down all the little barcoded price and title tags you see on the shelves saying what the product is, how much it costs, etc. and replace them with the NEW week's tags. Those tags are the Planogram system. So they replace them every TUESDAY, meaning tomorrow.
He said they'd start doing that at 5AM EST tomorrow, which is about 8 hours from now. He gave me a name to ask for tomorrow in the electronics department. I'll call there tomorrow morning and see. I go to work at 1PM so I should be able to report back, but by that time I'm thinking they'll be posts here from people saying they finally have it.
That means if EU3 CE is going to be on the shelves anytime between tomorrow and next Tuesday (Feb 6th) when they replace the Planogram tags for that upcoming week, then there will be a Planogram tag for it tomorrow.
He also said that on special deals like this exclusive between Target and Paradox, he wouldn't expect any advance notice; instead, he'd expect them just to "show up in the mail that day." He said it also depended on demographics, but he agreed with me that since he was stocking all the other major strategy titles (Medieval Total War 2, Sid Meier's Railroads, Caesar iV, etc.) that they'd probably stock this one.
Just go into your Targets tomorrow and ask them if their Planogram tags for this week included EU3 CE. Bring a picture of the game with you from:
http://www.europauniversalis3.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=29
I expect they'll at least have the Planogram tags tomorrow, and the game either in tomorrow or in the next couple of days.
Thanks for that update, sdrga. I called my local Target earlier today, and they had no clue about it. It helps reduce the frustration level at least knowing the situation instead of being totally in the dark. Your investigation is appreciated (as is Susana's).
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For whatever reason, I called my local Target today in NW Chicago out of curiosity. Spoke with a member of the electronics department, who told me it will be on the shelf tomorrow. I double-checked if it is the CE she was referring to and she confirmed it. Guess I shall be making the trek there tomorrow in the early afternoon.
Thanks sdrga, that confirms what I found out a couple days go. (This isn't sarcastic, I promise)
Well, I'll be going off to Target tomorrow during my free period at school.
Well, I'll be going off to Target tomorrow during my free period at school.
wilcoxchar said:Well, I'll be going off to Target tomorrow during my free period at school.
Good luck, I think you need it
/me is waiting for them to be put on their website so I can order it online. Especially now that I no longer have a choice as the webshop is now out of CEs. Failing that I'll just end up going to Best Buy for a regular edition (why oh why couldn't you guys have done the deal with them?!)
This morning, I called four targets in the Atlanta area and none of them had heard of it.
apologies if i'm repeating something that's already been asked, but what are the "download" and "special forum" bonuses that you get from CE...are you going to be able to download updates and access boards that regular buyers can't?
btw, there is no supertarget within 100 miles of where i live either...any southern california people out there know where to look?
btw, there is no supertarget within 100 miles of where i live either...any southern california people out there know where to look?
Some inside information
Hi guys,
Here are some excerpts from the post from Johan in the closed "Collectors Edition only" forum section, should give you some insights:
...You will see us more often in here and we will also provide extra material ongoing, it may be in-game enhancements, it may be additional items that you can use outside of the game, special modifications etc.
You will also be in the fast lane to participate in regular beta testing of upcoming builds and content upgrades. In addition you will have a unique chance to influence future decisions within Paradox Interactive. By voting in our special polls on which feature(s)should be added for next content upgrade your involvement will have direct impact....
Kind regards
Susana Meza
Hi guys,
Here are some excerpts from the post from Johan in the closed "Collectors Edition only" forum section, should give you some insights:
...You will see us more often in here and we will also provide extra material ongoing, it may be in-game enhancements, it may be additional items that you can use outside of the game, special modifications etc.
You will also be in the fast lane to participate in regular beta testing of upcoming builds and content upgrades. In addition you will have a unique chance to influence future decisions within Paradox Interactive. By voting in our special polls on which feature(s)should be added for next content upgrade your involvement will have direct impact....
Kind regards
Susana Meza