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Here's the thing: being a veteran HOI player (and loving it! :D ) I started to think about the good old EUII days...and I decided to check amazon to see If I could rebuy it (my original EUII copy had a very sad fate...but it's a long story).

Anyway, before I placed my order for EUII (and Imperialism 2 - another lost classic :D) I started thinking to myself "sertorio my old man, why not go for the strike, and buy Victoria instead of EUII?". I mean, both games have roughly the same scope (empire building, diplomacy, blah blah blah), so why not go for victoria instead of wasting my money on an oldy, even if that oldy is the amazing EUII [bows respectfully]?

So, what do you guys who played both of them think? EUII or Victoria?
 

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Victoria, because by the time your copy of this splendid title has met an unfortunate fate, Crusader Kings will be released and you can continue your pattern.
 

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Victoria, because by the time your copy of this splendid title has met an unfortunate fate, Crusader Kings will be released and you can continue your pattern.


LOL - good thinking. Sounds like a solid plan.

You can get a bonus if you get Crown of the North - because it includes EU II 1.07. But I would say get Victoria if it comes down to getting only one game.
 

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Both Victoria and EUII :D

Forget about Imperialism 2, Paradox games are unmatched (honestly I don't know Imperialism 2 so I might be wrong).
 

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It depends a bit on your taste. Victoria is slightly more advanced than EU2, and may be less appreciated by some people. But it's more stable than EU2 in single player, although EU2 has a much more balanced gameplay since it's been out for a while. EU2 is probably a lot cheaper too.

Conclusion: If you can buy both, do so and say which one you like more. If you can afford Victoria, you can probably afford EU2 at the same time. If your out for a cheap buy however, EU2 is a very good option.
 

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Thiers one simple answer to this, Get Both of them!!! :rofl: thier both great, and EUII have the largest time frame to do things in, though Victoria is slightly shorter around 84-85 years only you can accomplish alot and Viky is very involoving for the player :D
 

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I'd say Vicky!

Get it now and help shape the future via patches! :D
 

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Mmmh. The ideal would be to have the victoria engine turning in a 1419 situation.

Today (with patch 1.01fr), I find Victoria much too easy. But I'm sure it will be fixed in later patches. Also, structurally, it lacks (with its too large starting powers) flexibility ...

Kikine.
 

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Mad Max said:
Both Victoria and EUII :D

Forget about Imperialism 2, Paradox games are unmatched (honestly I don't know Imperialism 2 so I might be wrong).

I got Imp 2 while I was waiting for Vicky, it's quite good. I especially like the trade model, but I haven't touched it since Vic came out.