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Hey, can someone tell me what's the exact! difference between world conquest and world domination?
Is "world conquest" still possible with those colonial nations?
My current game is in 1666 and I expect less than 50 years to go for either of the two. However if world conquest isn't possible I could be 10-15 years faster if I knew so.

thx in advance
 

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Hey, can someone tell me what's the exact! difference between world conquest and world domination?
Is "world conquest" still possible with those colonial nations?
My current game is in 1666 and I expect less than 50 years to go for either of the two. However if world conquest isn't possible I could be 10-15 years faster if I knew so.

thx in advance

WC is still possible with CNs (as you can see from the screenshot currently used as the record). Uncertain though if the keeper of the records requires that the CNs be formed by you rather rather than inherited.

If you can get it, it'd be nice to bump out the likely fake currently holding the record.
 

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WC is still possible with CNs (as you can see from the screenshot currently used as the record). Uncertain though if the keeper of the records requires that the CNs be formed by you rather rather than inherited.

If you can get it, it'd be nice to bump out the likely fake currently holding the record.

Thx, I will go for a WC then. I preferred that anyways :)
Hm why do you think its a fake? I find irritating that he has full monarch points the moment he got the WC as well as ALL CN's being formed by him.

However if you go for a WC you always have to get your hands somewhat dirty..
 

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Thx, I will go for a WC then. I preferred that anyways :)
Hm why do you think its a fake? I find irritating that he has full monarch points the moment he got the WC as well as ALL CN's being formed by him.

However if you go for a WC you always have to get your hands somewhat dirty..

The most damning argument is that his high score indicates that he reached #1 in score in all 3 categories in 40 years.
 

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Well that as well. I would call it console. With my ming conquest I didnt even get #1 in score when I finished the domination but that was mainly as a subject nation. However going for a WC means #1 in admin and mil relatively fast but It takes forever to get #1 in diplo rating.
 

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The most damning argument is that his high score indicates that he reached #1 in score in all 3 categories in 40 years.

He also claimed he conquered Ming in 40 years.

With constant truce-breaking, I can have Ming fully annexed in 100 years as Manchu, which starts much stronger than Ryukyu. I don't like to point fingers or assume someone is cheating, but #1/#1/#1 score income within the first 10-20 years and conquering Ming in 40 in 1.6 or 1.7 just isn't something that happens. Each war vs Ming is a few years just to get the occupations and war score needed to take 100% or close.
 

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However, it looks as if I will be faster anyways.
Just one question and I would appreciate precise answers :)

Are overseas protectorates allowed for world conquest?
I inherited one so I would have to break and reconqer it. However I am likely to get more.

So this is how it looks in 1688


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Ok so here is my submission for fastest world domination.

Version:1.73 (7d7e)
DLCs: Conquest of paradise, Res Publica, Wealth of nations
Game mode: Ironman
Completion in game: 28th of December 1706

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If overseas protectorates/vassals count towards world conquest I will have a world conquest submission 1 day later^^. Otherwise I will just kill micmaq and that Maya province and probably lose just the time for that siege and the diplomats. I need a clear answer on my previous post however before I can do that.
 

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If overseas protectorates/vassals count towards world conquest I will have a world conquest submission 1 day later^^. Otherwise I will just kill micmaq and that Maya province and probably lose just the time for that siege and the diplomats. I need a clear answer on my previous post however before I can do that.
All protectorates, PUs and vassals count. World conquest means every settled province belongs to you or one of your subjects*.
*: subjects of subjects are problematic, afaik (like protectorates of your colonial nations)
 

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So here is the submission for fastest world conquest. If I need to conquer that micmaq and maya province just tell me. However I won't do it before monday. Same day, just pushed the button

Ah yeah and before anybody asks. Guyenne/Guyana? will probably form when I let a day or the month tick by.

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You can do the missions multiple times with some setup. Merc is capped at 200% bonus to provinces (IE 100% mercantilism). That's probably why there isn't an entry, same thing with minimum tech cost.
Exactly Right
Lol, I guess I didn't exactly understand the purpose of Hall of Fame :p
That's fine! Feel free to post any records you have beaten.
Hey, can someone tell me what's the exact! difference between world conquest and world domination?
Is "world conquest" still possible with those colonial nations?
My current game is in 1666 and I expect less than 50 years to go for either of the two. However if world conquest isn't possible I could be 10-15 years faster if I knew so.

thx in advance
World conquest is being the only nation remaining. Domination is having no countries in the world that are fully independent. (For example, you can have PUs in a domination but not a conquest.
WC is still possible with CNs (as you can see from the screenshot currently used as the record). Uncertain though if the keeper of the records requires that the CNs be formed by you rather rather than inherited.

If you can get it, it'd be nice to bump out the likely fake currently holding the record.
Actually that is just a map bug that causes the names of those old colonies to appear when zoomed out. He is the only nation left, evidenced by the fact he is using diplo map type.
Thx, I will go for a WC then. I preferred that anyways :)
Hm why do you think its a fake? I find irritating that he has full monarch points the moment he got the WC as well as ALL CN's being formed by him.

However if you go for a WC you always have to get your hands somewhat dirty..

The most damning argument is that his high score indicates that he reached #1 in score in all 3 categories in 40 years.

Well that as well. I would call it console. With my ming conquest I didnt even get #1 in score when I finished the domination but that was mainly as a subject nation. However going for a WC means #1 in admin and mil relatively fast but It takes forever to get #1 in diplo rating.

He also claimed he conquered Ming in 40 years.

With constant truce-breaking, I can have Ming fully annexed in 100 years as Manchu, which starts much stronger than Ryukyu. I don't like to point fingers or assume someone is cheating, but #1/#1/#1 score income within the first 10-20 years and conquering Ming in 40 in 1.6 or 1.7 just isn't something that happens. Each war vs Ming is a few years just to get the occupations and war score needed to take 100% or close.
Though it is certainly a possiblity that he has cheated, I must take him for his word. If you do not believe then try knocking him off the records yourself. Unless someone produces valid, clear evidence that he has cheated my hands are tied.
However, it looks as if I will be faster anyways.
Just one question and I would appreciate precise answers :)

Are overseas protectorates allowed for world conquest?
I inherited one so I would have to break and reconqer it. However I am likely to get more.

So this is how it looks in 1688
No, sorry they are not allowed, as stated above.
Ok so here is my submission for fastest world domination.

Version:1.73 (7d7e)
DLCs: Conquest of paradise, Res Publica, Wealth of nations
Game mode: Ironman
Completion in game: 28th of December 1706

3CAA4D2D46899541EE206EE1D08C2A5231829FA0

3951FCA67818B4281B54B2E09C13CAA55CA80864


If overseas protectorates/vassals count towards world conquest I will have a world conquest submission 1 day later^^. Otherwise I will just kill micmaq and that Maya province and probably lose just the time for that siege and the diplomats. I need a clear answer on my previous post however before I can do that.
This records counts for domination though, well done!
All protectorates, PUs and vassals count. World conquest means every settled province belongs to you or one of your subjects*.
*: subjects of subjects are problematic, afaik (like protectorates of your colonial nations)
Sorry, but this does not really follow my definition of conquest, sorry.


Anyways, sorry for not replying to this thread in over a month. Balancing 4 AP classes as well as a soccer season makes tings very difficult. I'll keep better track from now on, as soccer is just about over.
Sorry for any confusion caused by my absence.
I have updated all records, I believe.
 

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Hello guys,
Im new to the forum and ive been playing this great game for a month now. I googled for a HOF and found the forum and this topic.
Its always nice to compete with the best (im an old civilization addict and used to some other HOF tables in another forum).

Just popped in to drop an idea. I know this is an individual effort to maintain all these records, but i thought to say it anyway. (I would love to see some nice HOF tables from the official moderators of this forum).

How about everyone could upload their record (final end score i guess) for specific countries ? For example, best score played as byzantium or naples etc. So, we could try to get the best out of our favorite country each time we start a new game and compete for the best end score.
 

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Fastest Japan Formation: 4 March 1451 as Japan (Shogun)

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Hello guys,
Im new to the forum and ive been playing this great game for a month now. I googled for a HOF and found the forum and this topic.
Its always nice to compete with the best (im an old civilization addict and used to some other HOF tables in another forum).

Just popped in to drop an idea. I know this is an individual effort to maintain all these records, but i thought to say it anyway. (I would love to see some nice HOF tables from the official moderators of this forum).

How about everyone could upload their record (final end score i guess) for specific countries ? For example, best score played as byzantium or naples etc. So, we could try to get the best out of our favorite country each time we start a new game and compete for the best end score.
I think that having a separate thread for this would be best.
Also, having an official hall of fame thresh would be interesting. You could contact one of the moderators if you had more questions regarding this.

Records updated again. Even if it takes a while I while update them guys!