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[JingoisticDiplo]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=175208909

It was a pain in the ass, but almighty Gelre managed to pull it off anyway

Btw, Netherlands anno 1720:

 

[Svampen]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=175208909

It was a pain in the ass, but almighty Gelre managed to pull it off anyway

Nice!

Do you get Netherlands ideas once you form it or are you stuck with Gelres generic?

 

[Beagá]

Go for it.

Ok kid here we go.

Post a screenshot proving it was in Ironman for starters. Not Ironman? Then sorry it is invalid as a DECENT strategy. Reloading when things don´t happen like you want = cheating.

There are some ways to get Imperial Authority, and I will show you how you couldn´t get them so fast without EDITING files to increase authority gain or massive reloading.

First, monarch dying gives 10 imperial points if you still have the crown. Yours didn´t die.

Next, you get points for enforcing Religious Unity. You didn´t.

Next, adding provinces to the empire. You didn´t.

Defending members of the Empire? YOU adimited RELOADING so that other countries would DOW HRE members and thus get authority. However, even IF (and that´s a big IF) you managed to win a war versus France AND Poland AND Burgundy FAST (which you might managed by massive reloading after bad battles), even then such wars give 20 IA points and they simply don´t declare war that often. So for Ironman your little cute strategy won´t work, for that reason alone. And Hungary almost never does even DOW HRE countries, FFS.

Finally, releasing nations only give so much IA and while some HRE countries might be happy others will be pissed when you defeat in wars to release nations. Meaning you will need at least 60 or more IA to get a reform.

Considering there are 8 reforms, and you will need an average of 60 IA points times 8 = 480 points of authority in 20 years... sorry kid but the math simply doesn´t hold up. And I´ll say again: anyone who did play Áustria will see it´s impossible.

 

[zaikantos]

Post a screenshot proving it was in Ironman for starters. Not Ironman? Then sorry it is invalid as a DECENT strategy. Reloading when things don´t happen like you want = cheating.

Already said it wasn't an ironman game. Sorry I don't want to bother with having it take twice as long.
The only reload I did in the 64 run was reloading after releasing vassals to check how much IA I had saved up there.

There are some ways to get Imperial Authority, and I will show you how you couldn´t get them so fast without EDITING files to increase authority gain or massive reloading.

You don't even list all the ways.

First, monarch dying gives 10 imperial points if you still have the crown. Yours didn´t die.

Next, you get points for enforcing Religious Unity. You didn´t.

Yup, monarch didn't die and reformation hadn't started yet.

Next, adding provinces to the empire. You didn´t.

I did, actually. Two of burgundies provinces weren't HRE. Was vital to the strategy, too.

Defending members of the Empire? YOU adimited RELOADING so that other countries would DOW HRE members and thus get authority. However, even IF (and that´s a big IF) you managed to win a war versus France AND Poland AND Burgundy FAST (which you might managed by massive reloading after bad battles), even then such wars give 20 IA points and they simply don´t declare war that often. So for Ironman your little cute strategy won´t work, for that reason alone. And Hungary almost never does even DOW HRE countries, FFS.

Where did I admit reloading so that other countries would DOW HRE members? Or even reloading in general? quote your sources.

Why would I have to fight France AND Poland AND Burgundy?
I never fought france or burgundy in the 64 run. Or hungary. Only poland and serbia.

Finally, releasing nations only give so much IA and while some HRE countries might be happy others will be pissed when you defeat in wars to release nations. Meaning you will need at least 60 or more IA to get a reform.

Considering there are 8 reforms, and you will need an average of 60 IA points times 8 = 480 points of authority in 20 years... sorry kid but the math simply doesn´t hold up. And I´ll say again: anyone who did play Áustria will see it´s impossible.

Wow, congratulations man. You listed a whole lot of nothing.

You forget that giving electorate gives +10 authority, that at the start of the next month you get a CB to revoke it and that there is no IA penalty for revoking.

HOW TO WIN AT AUSTRIA:
Revoke electorates. Use POLAND as ally against BOHEMIA.
revoke/give electorates constantly. Only reason to have <3 wars is if you're wrapping up wars to pass a reform. If any nation is about to be annexed (AKA speed 2 and check the wars ledger constantly) give them electorate. +10 IA and a month later they're no longer elector. You can get 50+ IA yearly easily.

Just before passing landfreude, make sure there is only 1 electors. Pass landfreude, give 6 electors a useless title (add 1 province to the empire so you can actually give electorate), pass next reform.
You now have 2 reforms left and about 85 saved up IA.
This is where the luck comes in, you need to win 2 defensive HRE wars or 1 HRE+1 DOTF war for the remaining IA.


Please don't tell people they are cheating if you don't know your business. So please DON'T make a TERRIBLE POST THAT LISTS EVERYTHING BUT THE 1 MECHANIC THAT MAKES THIS WORK while constantly CAPITALIZING WORDS LIKE RELOADING and EDITING and please DON'T call something a CUTE LITTLE STRATEGY when it seems like YOU couldn't even come up with it after making a VERY (NOT)THOUROUGHLY MADE POST about how I am haxor.

 

[Von Thoma]

Highest Warscore Gain From One Land Battle:
27.13 POINTS: In my irongame with Austria ...

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=175226871

 

[CyaN]

HOW TO WIN AT AUSTRIA:
Revoke electorates. Use POLAND as ally against BOHEMIA.
revoke/give electorates constantly. Only reason to have <3 wars is if you're wrapping up wars to pass a reform. If any nation is about to be annexed (AKA speed 2 and check the wars ledger constantly) give them electorate. +10 IA and a month later they're no longer elector. You can get 50+ IA yearly easily.

Yep, that explains it for me. I wasn't aware of how to exploit the Electorate mechanic; now the yearly gain of IA makes sense. Congrats for being the first to realise that, you earned the record

I think it's a exploit that should be fixed BTW, giving -10 IA when an elector disappears would get rid of it.

 

[Beagá]

Already said it wasn't an ironman game. Sorry I don't want to bother with having it take twice as long.
The only reload I did in the 64 run was reloading after releasing vassals to check how much IA I had saved up there.

That alone makes it invalid.

And yes I did list the ways you get authority, all of them in fact. You only managed to do it by exploiting the revoke Electorate casus belli. Sad, actually. There is simply a limit on how much IA you can get from freeing vassals and Imperial Liberation CB. And it´s simply isn´t enough to get ALL reforms by 1464.

But I won´t bother with you anymore, I´m sure you must feel very proud of your (empty) achievement.

 

[Maggix]

That alone makes it invalid.

And yes I did list the ways you get authority, all of them in fact. You only managed to do it by exploiting the revoke Electorate casus belli. Sad, actually. There is simply a limit on how much IA you can get from freeing vassals and Imperial Liberation CB. And it´s simply isn´t enough to get ALL reforms by 1464.

But I won´t bother with you anymore, I´m sure you must feel very proud of your (empty) achievement.

I think it's a huge achievment after seeing myself fail. Just wait for him to do it in ironman (even if it takes a couple of years longer) and we can all be happy...

 

[Svampen]

That alone makes it invalid.

And yes I did list the ways you get authority, all of them in fact. You only managed to do it by exploiting the revoke Electorate casus belli. Sad, actually. There is simply a limit on how much IA you can get from freeing vassals and Imperial Liberation CB. And it´s simply isn´t enough to get ALL reforms by 1464.

But I won´t bother with you anymore, I´m sure you must feel very proud of your (empty) achievement.

Does it really matter? After all it's just a pointless unification in what after all is a pointless computer game. :huh:

 

[zaikantos]

Yep, that explains it for me. I wasn't aware of how to exploit the Electorate mechanic; now the yearly gain of IA makes sense. Congrats for being the first to realise that, you earned the record

I think it's a exploit that should be fixed BTW, giving -10 IA when an elector disappears would get rid of it.

I agree. It's just pure stupid now. It needs an AE penalty or/and -IA

That alone makes it invalid.

What makes it invalid? That I checked how much IA I had saved up (which I could've just written down from another save), or that I didn't do ironman which doesn't matter?

And yes I did list the ways you get authority, all of them in fact.

No, you didn't write down all the ways since you didn't write about giving electorate anywhere. Even if not exploiting the CB electors will be annexed at some point = IA.

You only managed to do it by exploiting the revoke Electorate casus belli. Sad, actually. There is simply a limit on how much IA you can get from freeing vassals and Imperial Liberation CB. And it´s simply isn´t enough to get ALL reforms by 1464.

Which is relevant, how? Yes, I exploited the electorate system (CB). So what? It's in the game. Can be done in ironman too, which you seem to regard as some holy grail.
If you don't need to free vassal/liberate to do the HRE in 1464 then how is it relevant?
I got the HRE with ingame mechanics.

But I won´t bother with you anymore, I´m sure you must feel very proud of your (empty) achievement.

As expected. You get proven wrong and go hidey up. Yes, I am 'proud' of being the first to use this (that I'm aware of). I'll probably lose the record sometime soon anyway, as there is plenty of room for improvement.
I'm sure you must feel very proud of falsely accusing people (yes, people, since you claimed "More than a few cheaters and file modders in this thread.". Still waiting on you calling those other people out!).

I think it's a huge achievment after seeing myself fail. Just wait for him to do it in ironman (even if it takes a couple of years longer) and we can all be happy...

I'm not actually planning to do this ironman. The only reason to do it again in slowmotion is to satisfy this bigot, since thread accepts non-ironman records (which was the only reason I planned to do it).
Actually, not completely true. I might do it ironman since I think it's the best way to do a WC atm. 150k troops in 1464.

Playing on on the 64 run, got hungary+castille+france (castille and france only have 50% of their cores atm, though) in a PU in 85.
Hoping I can wrap up brittain, portugal and italy by 1510, would leave 300+ years for asia+africa+americas. Going east too slow though, oh well.

 

[JingoisticDiplo]

Nice!

Do you get Netherlands ideas once you form it or are you stuck with Gelres generic?

Yes! , you get Unique Dutch ideas, a unique form of government (Dutch republic, 33% increase in max naval units and 20 % trade efficiency i believe). And historical events/decisions tend to pop up. They really put alot of effort in my Country!

 

[Von Thoma]

... I myself played Austria in my ironman game "normal" and needed till 1780 or so, even there I had to use that "cheating" to free some provinces to get enough points to buy the last stage of HRE unification !

What does someone expect, if you are doing a HIGH SCORE thread, that people will post from their "normal" game ?
For sure not, most will try to beat a special record , just to beat it !

So better post your endscreen from a ironman game, that will count a little bit more, until one find out to hack that !

 

[drake000666]

That alone makes it invalid.

And yes I did list the ways you get authority, all of them in fact. You only managed to do it by exploiting the revoke Electorate casus belli. Sad, actually. There is simply a limit on how much IA you can get from freeing vassals and Imperial Liberation CB. And it´s simply isn´t enough to get ALL reforms by 1464.

But I won´t bother with you anymore, I´m sure you must feel very proud of your (empty) achievement.

Think he did a good job myself you think most people in this forum are not using exploits or out right cheats to get their records and people already showed that you can cheat ironman mode so that he did not do it in ironman is pointless.

 

[lordvagrant]

Ironman: Ireland unification: Feb 2, 1529 (didn't screenshot at time, so looking at province history)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=175303136


Not Ironman: Inflation, Swahili: 74.4% <- Achievement in keeping it that low
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=175305914

 

[homy_dog34]

Updated records for highest base tax, discipline, netherlands, and warscore from one land battle.

Also, I feel that no more discussion is really needed on replies to Beaga, so please do not clog up the thread.

Thanks

 

[Beagá]

Think he did a good job myself you think most people in this forum are not using exploits or out right cheats to get their records and people already showed that you can cheat ironman mode so that he did not do it in ironman is pointless.

Then rename thread: Hall of Infamy. I can post lots of stuff If I want by save scumming and exploits, but I wouldn´t be proud of posting them here or say it was a big accomplishment.

As other people play the game I´m pretty sure that absurd claims will be easier and easier to spot.

 

[homy_dog34]

Ireland unification: Feb 2, 1529 (didn't screenshot at time, so looking at province history)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=175303136

Are you sure you are screenshotting the right part of the province history? Shouldn't it be a screenshot of when the owner changed to Ireland?

 

[unmerged(105863)]

Alençon as the highest income by the AI(2980.42)

They got it by collecting/stealing trade from Antwerp, those sneaky Frenchmen.

Highest trade income(40141.41)

I had merchants in London, Bordeaux, Sevilla, Genoa, Tunis, Ivory coast, Gulf of Aden, Hangzhou, Beijing and Mexico.
I lost the East-India trade-route modifier soon after this, so I doubt I'll reach any higher numbers in this play-trough.

 

[homy_dog34]

Then rename thread: Hall of Infamy. I can post lots of stuff If I want by save scumming and exploits, but I wouldn´t be proud of posting them here.

Beaga, please do not try to start a flame war in the thread. No one else reply to him please.
If you continue to post insults and accusations a mod will be alerted/
Thanks.

Edit: Ninja'd again. added trade income and AI income records

 

[Beagá]

Whatever dude, whatever. It´s your "Garden".