EU4 - Development Diary - 9th of February 2021

[LSF]

Monday, great wonders. Then Tuesday, monuments. Almost the same DD...

Weird.

But I liked it. Just disliked existing only pre-defined monuments. Let us build our stuff wherever we want.

And 15% adm eff is just crazy. Change that for good.

 

[RMS Oceanic]

Please don't have admin efficiency tied to any monuments, there is already an inflated quantity of sources in the game as stands. If it was to even be attached to a monument at all it should be a miniscule amount like 2.5%. Being able to turn ducats into admin efficiency is very unhealthy for the game and I would highly recommend you revisit its inclusion. Otherwise a pretty neat feature and I am excited to see all the different monuments that get included!

I low grade disagree because after they nerfed absolutism's Admin Efficiency gain 17th Century conquest isn't as punchy as it used to be unless you're a nation that gets its own source of AdEff. This allows countries left in the dust by that decision to catch up. Or they could undo that nerf because the 90% cap on AdEff serves the purpose they were going for anyway.

 

[Mannock]

This is a feature I absolutely love. Thanks for bringing this into the next expansion. Looking forward to it!

 

[kaide]

will you also be adding wonders after 1444ad like the tajmahal

 

[qwertzlbry]

also like the 2D Pictures. That feels good!

Building Notre Dame or Hagia Sophia makes sense, but "upgrading" Stonehenge or the Pyramids feels counterintuitive.

Can you spend both 300 gold and 10000 manpower to get double speedup? Oh, also: Would putting the Suez/Kiel/Panama Canals in this system be a good idea?

I definitely like the idea.

yeah definitely an age ristriction on some of them would make a lot of sense

 

[Emper24]

Why Himeji Castle specifically? Sure it's one of only 7 originals that still stand today and the biggest of those, but at the time it ws just a castle. And we got a building for that: Castle....
If anything, include Azuchi castle, because that actually felt special and monumental to the people at the time, as it was the first castle in roughly that style. Also if Himeji can only be built after 1581 to be historical, the boni will be useless since Japan will be united by then. Being able to build it before then would feel stupid to me since there were only hilltop forts in Japan at the time without the beautiful architectural features like Tenshu, but then again you did include clans like Oda as a significant clan in 1444 and called a feature in Shinto religion the completely anachronistic term "sakoku", so clearly anything pertaining to Japanese history is not meant to be accurate but to cater to popular stereotypes... -.-

 

[MK1980]

alhambra seems a bit OP. guess it may be limited to primary culture andalusian or something along that line? so it's a great asset for an al-andalus run but useless for castille

 

[Spartakus]

Maybe it's just that I suck at EU4 economics, but 1000 gold seems like an aweful lot to me for a lower tier upgrade. It takes quite some time until I have this much money lying around.

Well except for the Alhambra. That one is a steal.

Maybe you should consider rebalancing some of these bonuses as well as the costs to upgrade, possibly making the final tier more expensive but the lower ones more affordable.

After conquering a province with a monument, its tier is reset to 1 to show the impact of the war in the city, even if it was already in an upper tier. However, it won't be reset to tier 0, as if it was completely destroyed. Also, provinces with a monument cost more warscore, as they hold a special significance to their owner. The new owner, however, will be able to upgrade it again, as long as the requirements are still met.

Does that include rebellions? Or is a change of ownership required?

 

[namewhichisnottakenyet]

Yeah, 15% admin efficiency is way too powerful compared to the other wonders. The other bonuses of the Alhambra would already make it well worth the effort.

Did you maybe intend to give it -15% admin tech cost and mixed up the modifiers?

 

[Metz]

Would it be possible for Constantinople to feature both the Hagia Sophia and the Blue Mosque (possible if conquered by the Ottomans)?

 

[Siddy00]

Quick reply (I should be working): the entire idea sounds awesome! I loved great wonders in CK2, and as other players have mentioned this is a great addition to my tall-ish playstyle
There are plenty of questions and issues, as is to be expected with such a change, but others seem to be doing a fine job of pointing them out and making suggestions. Nevertheless, those are (mostly) about details and not about the idea itself --- important details, I'll grant you, but details nonetheless. Good job!

 

[Metz]

What about the Ulugh Beg Observatory in Samarkand? It was destroyed in 1449 but the country can have the option to either destroy it or keep it which would help boost technology progress.

 

[Cagallo]

The fact that bonuses for Stonehenge only apply if you turn England or GB into paganism is the biggest trolling I've seen in a while

 

[Nyrael]

Is Paradox monument addicted this week? First Imperator announces their monuments with EU4 following the same treatment literally the day after xD

Imperator announced their monuments around half a year ago. The latest DD just showed the changes done to it.

 

[treb]

+15% admin efficiency is crazy, every damn nation west of India will be gunning poor Grenada for that buff.

 

[Ixal]

Hm, meh.
Doesn't look like a feature EU4 desperately needed. More clutter I guess...

One question, what happens with decisions and events that build certain buildings (Basilica in Roma, the Forbidden City, etc.)?

 

[deserk]

Awesome feature. Something I've wanted for EU4 for a long time. I hope more wonders are added as well in addition to the ones already there. Particularly for regions with very few of them.

I actually don't mind not being able to build a custom wonder, since then you eventually will be tempted to spam wonders everywhere, and also I would rather have culturally distinct and unique wonders, rather than a set of boring generic ones. I like the focus on historical wonders, as it gives flavour to those regions that have it, and also lets you learn and appreciate some history. What they should do instead of letting you build your own custom wonders, is the possibility to build some historical wonders that previously have been destroyed like the Colossus of Rhodes, but only under certain conditions and at a much more expensive cost.

 

[withche.07]

@skingrado
Can you also please look into Anatolian/Turkish architecture. Art doesn't fit region in game.

Can We Change the Building Types for Turkish/Anatolian Nations?

Hi! I know this isn't a major issue at all, I felt the need of sharing this just for the sake of historical accuracy, in game depth and Common Sense (heh). As someone who lives by, seeing adobe buildings in Sinop, Bolu, Ankara, basically the...

forum.paradoxplaza.com

 

[alexaaaar]

This looks like a really fun new feature that will be relevant to every nation rather than just a specific region. Looking forward to playing with it!

 

[tilly]

so, like, not to be rude or anything, but how is the ai going to handle this? the ai is sort of notoriously bad with money already - are they going to just pretend it doesnt exist or bankrupt themselves rushing it down? are they going to fill their whole country with docks or whatever and then EFFECTIVELY never touch the things because they save it for last and never have the cash for it? are they gonna dump money into this instead of paying off their massive debts?

its a fine idea but i dont know about adding more mechanics like this until you teach the ai how to play the videogame good. like, again, im not trying to be nasty or anything, but it really is a big issue - i know the content guys arent the same guys as the bugfix and balancing guys, but i really think itd be prudent to hold off on mechanics like this until the ai has a handle on the mechanics that already exist