A more realistic numbers of sailors for different types of ships, I was asking for that since sailors were added to the game. ^^
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Some of the most famous raids were in the 1600s and 1700s. What are you talking about? The peak was in the mid-1600s.This doesn't fix anything. The only good change here is the raiding change, but raiding shouldn't even be a mechanic past 1500 anyways
"upgrading ships" is just an abstraction for removed micromanagement of building new ships, and not clogging up your provinces unit construction tab.Make upgrading ships cheaper and not 100% cost and add the button to upgrade a fleet to the base game away from Art of War.
Upgrading fleets already feels like a thing you do only if there is no better way to spend money, since it just costs a lot for a relatively useless benefit (since navy being weak isn't much of a drawback). And the more important a navy is to your nation, the more ships it has, so the cost raises and always ends up being too large for the benefit it grants. If the old ships sink, just rebuild new ones is usually my way of thinking. Until it changes I don't think I'll ever like ships in this game.
So combat width is down to 0.5 for galleys. Meaning that you can have 6 galleys against 1 heavy.
AKA in 1444 you have 72 cannons for galleys against 40 cannons of your heavy. This doesn't seem balanced
Or am I forgetting something?
Their fleets can also be very helpful in wartime.Considering the amount of trade they generate, yes.
Britain's capital ships during the napoleonic wars. 125 in 1793, 135 in 1799, 135 in 1808 and 122 in 1814. The most complete recordings of British capital ships. During those same years Britain's total navy ships consisted of 388 in 1799, 469 in 1808 and 459 in 1814, including everything from frigates to unrated ships, sadly there is no data for the make up of total ships in 1793. This was also supporting a merchant marine of around 19,000-22,000 ships during the period.You're not supposd to be moving around doomstacks of ships, though. The biggest navies in the world around 1800, England, Spain, France, Denmark-Norway, only had on the order of 50-60 capital ships tops.
Running around with 500 heavies is extremely unrealistic.
Total Ships in Service | First Rates | Second Rates | 80 guns | 74 guns | 74 guns (Large) | 64 Guns | 50 Guns |
1793 | 5 | 16 | 1 | 58 | 3 | 30 | 12 |
1794 | |||||||
1795 | |||||||
1796 | 6 | 16 | 5 | 56 | 8 | ||
1797 | 30 | 12 | |||||
1799 | 6 | 17 | 7 | 49 | 20 | 26 | 10 |
1801 | 6 | 16 | 8 | 50 | 20 | 27 | 10 |
1804 | 20 | 10 | |||||
1805 | 7 | 14 | 6 | 43 | 24 | ||
1808 | 6 | 11 | 7 | 51 | 30 | 21 | 9 |
1810 | 12 | 7 | |||||
1811 | 7 | 12 | 7 | 62 | 28 | 9 | |
1812 | 5 | ||||||
1814 | 7 | 8 | 5 | 67 | 30 | 1 | 4 |
Were all of those 135 capital ships, though? I.e. ships which would be considered heavies in game.Britain's capital ships during the napoleonic wars. 125 in 1793, 135 in 1799, 135 in 1808 and 122 in 1814. The most complete recordings of British capital ships. During those same years Britain's total navy ships consisted of 388 in 1799, 469 in 1808 and 459 in 1814, including everything from frigates to unrated ships, sadly there is no data for the make up of total ships in 1793. This was also supporting a merchant marine of around 19,000-22,000 ships during the period.
Agree that running around with 500 ships of the line late game is unrealistic.You're not supposd to be moving around doomstacks of ships, though. The biggest navies in the world around 1800, England, Spain, France, Denmark-Norway, only had on the order of 50-60 capital ships tops.
Running around with 500 heavies is extremely unrealistic.