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EU4 - Development Diary - 6th of March 2018

Dev Diary 6th of March 2018 - Unit Preview


Hi and welcome to this weeks Dev Diary, where we'll be taking a look at the units included in Rule Britannia. I'm @Carlberg, one of the 3D artists at Paradox and you may know me as the bringer of unit renders for previous content and immersion packs. Today we will be looking a bit closer at the new units and the different warriors and soldiers from history that they're based upon.

Ireland
Starting off on the area which has seen the most change in addition of new country tags we have all the Irish OPM's.

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The main designs for the earlier tiers of the Irish units are based on the Galloglass and Kern soldier types from that age. The Galloglass were a class of warriors mercenaries descended from the Norse-Gaelic clans of Scotland. Large numbers of these clans moved to Ireland after being dispossessed in the wake of the wars of Scottish independence in the 13th-14th century.

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The Kern were the more local Gaelic type of infantry found on Ireland but usually fought along the Galloglass to complement them as light infantry. For later tiers it's been a tricky road of finding any references since Great Britain essentially consolidated control over Ireland, and we couldn't have every single units based on British red coat uniforms. So we have tried making it it's own but still with influences of uniform design.

Upon unifying the Irish people (as an Irish nation) you can also form the Kingdom of Ireland, which now also comes with its own unit set for all tiers.

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For the last tier some would probably be able to spot that we've used the piper uniform of the Irish Guard. While historically anachronistic it was a style we chose to use since it had a style of uniform fitting with the times, and also had similarities to the Scottish Highlander uniforms (which come further below).

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Wales
For the first tier of the Welsh units we went with a more simple armored foot soldier, this to symbolize the rather new and precarious position the Welsh will be in since they start off as a nation absorbed by England. To be free they will either have to rebel, or be broken off by another power. The Tier 3 is inspired by the light skirmishing infantry Great Britain utilized during the the American War of Independence. Tier 4 on the other hand have a basis in the Marines utilized by the Royal navy with their distinct hat in contrast to the other infantry of the Era.

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Scotland
Now this is probably the unit set we've had the most curiosity about here at the office, while still being the most obvious design choice. How could we ever make a Scottish unit pack and not have any Scottish Highlander uniforms? Even if it's a uniform of Great Britain (which Scotland is a part of), it's highly connected to Scottish soldiers of the era.

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The earlier tier was a harder pick since there was little reference material we found that weren't related to English uniforms. The Tier 3 is based on a uniform used by the Highlander regiments during the Seven Years war. The final tier is a very late one as they came into use in the early 1800's. It was only in use by the Highlander regiments while the uniform of the lowlands were indistinguishable from the regular British uniform of the time.

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Brittany
But Carlberg, why is Brittany here? They're not a part of Britain!

True. While Brittany isn't a part of Britain they share history. Both areas have a history of the Breton people. Brittany was also influenced by both England and France during the 100 years war and earlier still. It was also one of the nations in our Pre-Order pack along France and Britain, so we wanted to cover it or it'd risk being left without any related DLC to cover it. And we all want to avoid holes in our unit coverage dont we?

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The unit set for Brittany is partially based on uniforms of the era, and the cultural clothing of the Bretons in Brittany. There was also a influence of French uniform design since historically they were integrated into their larger neighbor.


Rebel nations
As we know some people love to break away a hidden nation to either play as or use for nefarious things we have also covered the British tags that kan break free. Northumberland, Normandie and Cornwall, as well as Meath on Ireland.

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Cornwall and Northumberland

These nations start off as part of England, and would only ever be seen if someone actively broke them free after a war. You may recognize them from CKII if you’ve played on the earlier start dates. These country tags never existed in this era, and have therefore used a lot of influence from England but with their own variation to distance them a bit.

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Normandy

Normandy was a tricky area to design uniforms for, home of William the Conqueror that claimed the English throne four centuries earlier it's one of the contested areas in the 100 years war. So we had to ask ourselves how to best design this area that never really was independent. The uniforms here are a mix of English and French influence, leaning more towards English in the earlier tiers, but more French in the latter ones.

Meath
Meath is actually one of the Irish nations, but is included here since they start as a province already claimed by England.


And that concludes today lineup. I hope you’re as interested in Rule Britannia as I am. Additionally, Rule Britannia will also include 3 British themed songs. Rather than just tell you that they are awesome, we can give you a teaser of it:

 
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17th Century Scottish troops would look more like this

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The tier 4 welsh and irish (not including the ireland one) are a bit to British considering these will if they are in the game either have broken free of england or remain unconquered. In the case of the irish giving them colour variations of irelands t4 would be a lot better than color variations of englands t4.
And having an British marine for an independent wales is a very lazy choice.
I tend to agree on the Irish minors - especially because the T4 Irish Guards based one for Ireland is quite awesome.
On the other hand, using British marines for Wales might be odd, but consider it a nod to the quite iconic and peculiar Napoleonic Royal Marine outfit - in favour of which I am somewhat biased since it reminds me so much of Hornblower, Master and Commander and Alan Lewrie :) And I think it is better to use recognizable, storied historical uniforms rather than made-up stuff.
 
Never forget the original William the Conqueror and his conquest of England in 40,066 BC
Funnily enough, the first Cro-Magnon arrived in Britain a bit more than 40,000 years ago. It fits.

Seems I referred to the wrong migration! Fixed now, after a few good laughs. =)

What about the English/British units? I do not understand why you show us the units for all these countries that will only exist briefly and not the units for England and Great Britain.

England/Great Britain have already been given units in earlier unit packs (Evangelical Union & Great nations packs), but had they not they probably would have been included in this.

Also why some irish minors received only tier 1 unit?
does kildare, sligo, leinster and thomond use the t2, t3 and t4 of ireland or they use the regular ones ?

Indeed, since it'd been a bit of a waste to make full tiers for everyone since they'll be absorbing each other, we gave everyone a tier 1 unit for the original start date. After that they borrow units from a close neighbor.

How do models work if you culture convert
IE Will Albanians in Ireland look like Kerns

Units are bound to the nation tag, so if you culture switch the units would still be Kerns in your case.

Looking good. Will the highlander Scottish nation also use the Scottish units? Any other duplications for e.g. The Isles?

Aye, Gaeldom and The Isles will be using the same Highlanders as Scotland.
 
Why does the Welsh tier 2 unit look like a cowboy?
He looks like a pilgrim not a cowboy and perhaps puritanism was strong in wales? You'll find that hat in pretty much all Calvinist countries, I got to admit I have no idea what the real significance is. But the dutch also use it.

17th Century Scottish troops would look more like this

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Well yeah but atleast Scotlands units look unique. The tier 4 of all the others are English in the local colours.

I tend to agree on the Irish minors - especially because the T4 Irish Guards based one for Ireland is quite awesome.
On the other hand, using British marines for Wales might be odd, but consider it a nod to the quite iconic and peculiar Napoleonic Royal Marine outfit - in favour of which I am somewhat biased since it reminds me so much of Hornblower, Master and Commander and Alan Lewrie :) And I think it is better to use recognizable, storied historical uniforms rather than made-up stuff.
Then perhaps England tier 4 should be like that not Wales'.
And I disagree, you can't use real uniforms for a scenario which never existed in reality.
 
Like I said before, well here comes the problem, i dont know it feel like was it really necessary to all the British &Irish minor nations to have there own unique unit models for tier 2-4 ? like most likely you will never/(most likely not) going seem them or players and the Ai will most likely going form England or/and Great Britain, unless
i dont know i wish paradox implement something like if you hire mercenaries from let say northumbeland providence they unit models for the mercenaries will use the Northumbralnd unit model so the the unit models dont go to waste, if paradox really wants the new unit models that they gave to cornwall, desmond , Brittany, wales, etc.. to not go to waste they should make the mercenaries of the specific providence/culture like if hire mercs from cornwall they should use cornwall units plus it makes the mercenaries more immersive.
 
@Carlberg @DDRJake

Will there be any changes to the English and Scottish tier 1 units from the Hundred Years War pack? The weapons really could be swapped around as it has the Scottish using bills and the English using pikes, when it was the other way around, such as the Battle of Flodden where the English victory is in part attributed to the fact that the English had moved on from the simple pike before Scotland due to their experience of the Italian wars etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Flodden#Weaponry
 
Can accepted cultures (which are all bound to nations) have their unit models be implemented via decision (100 ducats and a 25 year cooling period)?
 
@Carlberg @DDRJake

Will there be any changes to the English and Scottish tier 1 units from the Hundred Years War pack? The weapons really could be swapped around as it has the Scottish using bills and the English using pikes, when it was the other way around, such as the Battle of Flodden where the English victory is in part attributed to the fact that the English had moved on from the simple pike before Scotland due to their experience of the Italian wars etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Flodden#Weaponry

The Scots had only just moved to the long Swiss pike and German Landsnecht style just prior to Flodden. You could argue that they were actually too modern and the new tactics didn't suit the battlefield. Before they used a shorter pike and lochaber axes. The English were the ones who stuck with older weapons. But yeah the weapons should be the other way round.
 
Oh man this sucks... I am almost done with my lucky Irish Empire campaign. I should have waited for this DLC and enjoy all this stuff. It will be a long time before I decide to play any nations in that region again.

Great unit models btw!
 
Like I said before, well here comes the problem, i dont know it feel like was it really necessary to all the British &Irish minor nations to have there own unique unit models for tier 2-4 ? like most likely you will never/(most likely not) going seem them or players and the Ai will most likely going form England or/and Great Britain, unless
i dont know i wish paradox implement something like if you hire mercenaries from let say northumbeland providence they unit models for the mercenaries will use the Northumbralnd unit model so the the unit models dont go to waste, if paradox really wants the new unit models that they gave to cornwall, desmond , Brittany, wales, etc.. to not go to waste they should make the mercenaries of the specific providence/culture like if hire mercs from cornwall they should use cornwall units plus it makes the mercenaries more immersive.

Unit packs would make more sense if they did this, and also displayed multiple units instead of just one solder or one horse.
 
Why does the Welsh tier 2 unit look like a cowboy?

We couldn't find much evidence of Welsh clothing in the EU4 period being very different from English, so we wanted to draw from the unique styles present across Britain during the 1600s that we've not really done before. This tall, wide-brimmed hat is common in depictions of soldiery in the Civil War period, and of course the early British colonists and puritans.

Both the Welsh Tier 2 and Tier 4 were also subtly inspired by the 'stovepipe' from the distinctive traditional Welsh costume worn by women; it's the only distinctive hat present in the traditional Welsh wardrobe, even though it's slightly anachronistic.

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You have Cornwall and Northumberland as rebel states but no Mercia :(
No need to fret, there's always time for a well made suggestion thread. Infact i was writing one up myself a while ago but had a degree of difficulty distinguishing the time-frames because Mercia's identity is part of industrial Britian (manufacturing heartland 17th to 19th century) & also classical Norman six kingdoms territory with a bit of a gap inbetween history wise which is hard to fill with NI without jumping between two historical extremes for inspiration. The Mercian Saltire won't grace EU4 today but maybe sometime in the future.

On another note, i am very pleased there are no exempt nations from the new unit models, they really look good.
 
Is there a Norman NI set to go with the Norman models?
 
It all looks really nice (although I'm not sure about the lowland Scottish kilts) and I love the music. However, skins are just seasoning to the meal. I think Meath and Normandy should have received national ideas rather than uniforms.
By the way, weren't Britanny and Scotland included into the 100 Years War Unit Pack?