EU4 - Development Diary - 24th of March 2020

EU4 - Development Diary - 24th of March 2020

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in the QoL things, will we have a reminder when war taxes are usable for 0 cost?
This was actually addressed in an earlier DD. They're changing it so that war taxes will be a drain over time that you toggle on and off, instead of a 2-year activated buff.
 

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There's already a reminder if they lapse during war?
Edit Ah yes ok you mean if you used them. yes.

But i'd wanted a reminder to use them in the first place because most of the time, i forget until the war is at 50% or more.
 
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I don't know... ask Francis I of France. Was he excommunicated? The Ottomans will be extremely weak in the next patch. The last thing we want is to make them even weaker. Poor little Ottomans! They're so cute!
1) Did you READ the link? King Francis was imprisoned in Madrid at first.
2) The alliance was deemed unholy
3) EU4: there are no (none, zero) French - Ottoman events
4) Weak Ottomans? WHAT? Google "Top 10 Strongest Starting Nations in EU4 youtube" Ottomans are #1 - by AlzaboHD on Feb 2019.
 

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1) Did you READ the link? King Francis was imprisoned in Madrid at first.
2) The alliance was deemed unholy
3) EU4: there are no (none, zero) French - Ottoman events
4) Weak Ottomans? WHAT? Google "Top 10 Strongest Starting Nations in EU4 youtube" Ottomans are #1 - by AlzaboHD on Feb 2019.
He still didn´t face any repercussions by the Pope so allowing the Pope to excommunicate cause of that is unhistorical.
 

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"sola fide" as a "concession" makes absolutely no sense theologically when looking at Catholic doctrine, it's completely illogical to include this as a decision in-game. the "allowing vulgar bibles" one makes no sense either seeing as the issue at the time was not allowing bible translation but allowing unauthorized bible translations. I get the feeling whoever is in charge of the Catholicism content doesn't know a lot about Catholicism in the time period (or today)
The allowing vulgar bibles is perfectly analogous to: the issue of Morphine ( or take your pick of cocaine or other illicit drugs) was (is) not allowing allowing dangerous drugs but allowing unauthorized use of dangerous drugs.

If the government doesn't allow those drugs to be used for public consumption they are illegal.
If the Catholic church criminalizes vulgar bibles unless it is by the Catholic Church and the Catholic church refuses to make any vulgar bibles then all vulgar bibles are illegal.

The decision "allow vulgar bibles" is a perfectly reasonable one in light of the fact that de facto it was illegal to have a vulgar bible. Even if technically one day someone may be able to own one years later.

It seems like a classic case of Catholic legalese that is exactly what protestants view as wrong.
 
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I'm going to cry. So many DLCs, and expansions in EUIV, yet no love for Byzantium in years. I only play Byzantium, and with every DLC I hope there is something in store for Byzantium. But usually, I'm left disappointed. Now Catholics get even more powerful, and no love for Orthodoxy or the Empire. Though, all I really want is more accepted cultures for Byzantium (Let's face it, unless a skilled player reinvigorates the Empire, it's dead anyway, so it's not necessary game braking. I want like +20 accepted culture pool for Byzantium, as a reward for rebuilding it back to life). But all hope is not lost yet. Maybe the devs can yet be kind to us Byzantithills and sprinkle some love in this expansion? Here's to hoping!
 

love sweden

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I'm going to cry. So many DLCs, and expansions in EUIV, yet no love for Byzantium in years. I only play Byzantium, and with every DLC I hope there is something in store for Byzantium. But usually, I'm left disappointed. Now Catholics get even more powerful, and no love for Orthodoxy or the Empire. Though, all I really want is more accepted cultures for Byzantium (Let's face it, unless a skilled player reinvigorates the Empire, it's dead anyway, so it's not necessary game braking. I want like +20 accepted culture pool for Byzantium, as a reward for rebuilding it back to life). But all hope is not lost yet. Maybe the devs can yet be kind to us Byzantithills and sprinkle some love in this expansion? Here's to hoping!
I wonder how detached from reality a person has to be to think Orthodoxy didn´t receive any love.
 

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I wonder how detached from reality a person has to be to think Orthodoxy didn´t receive any love.
Please, don't use such strong expressions with my friend Mastah Jedi. You're right regarding that Orthodox is a nice religion in game. He's also right the Byzantines might get some culture bonuses, since they had ruled the diverse region centuries before and had good relations with the different peoples in the Balcans. Let's keep the forum civil! Cheers, love and peace to everyone!
 
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I have an idea to adress the main fault of Catholic mechanics, namely that its more beneficial to have fewer Catholic nations because its easier to hog the papacy.

And the answer is very simple: reward competition.

Every country that invests in the Curia should lower the cost of Curia actions for every Catholic by -1 (naturally would reset at pope death)
Therefore, if there are are 30 healthy Catholic nations, all investing and competing for the curia it might be hard for you to get the seat but at least you will get to benefit from dirt cheap curia power costs.

If you wipe out the competition are there are only 4 catholics left you get to be the curia controller, but the power costs will be much higher.

However, since this has the potential to decrease curia power costs dramatically, i would first increase the base costs by 100% and place a hard cap at a fixed value, like 30.
 
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I have an idea to adress the main fault of Catholic mechanics, namely that its more beneficial to have fewer Catholic nations because its easier to hog the papacy.

And the answer is very simple: reward competition.

Every country that invests in the Curia should lower the cost of Curia actions for every Catholic by -1 (naturally would reset at pope death)
Therefore, if there are are 30 healthy Catholic nations, all investing and competing for the curia it might be hard for you to get the seat but at least you will get to benefit from dirt cheap curia power costs.

If you wipe out the competition are there are only 4 catholics left you get to be the curia controller, but the power costs will be much higher.

However, since this has the potential to decrease curia power costs dramatically, i would first increase the base costs by 100% and place a hard cap at a fixed value, like 30.
Have you not seen the curia now has its own bank? Which is helped by having more tags in the world
 

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Have you not seen the curia now has its own bank? Which is helped by having more tags in the world
yeah but in practice it doesn't make Catholicism stronger the more nations are in it, it makes Catholicism WEAKER as the princes and nations convert away.
 
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Have you not seen the curia now has its own bank? Which is helped by having more tags in the world
Its really not, its helped by having true faith provinces under the control of the clergy.
It ultimately doesn't matter the tag number, if you eliminate all rivals you can keep the coffers full by giving true faith provinces to the clergy. There is not a limit on how much a single tag can contribute.
 

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Its really not, its helped by having true faith provinces under the control of the clergy.
It ultimately doesn't matter the tag number, if you eliminate all rivals you can keep the coffers full by giving true faith provinces to the clergy. There is not a limit on how much a single tag can contribute.
if states are weaker then theyll find it harder to centralise their nations I feel, and so the clergy will have higher amounts of land than in one centralised tag
 
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I have a question! How would this non-European Catholic nations? Like, Catholic Kongo is alot of fun because of the historical weirdness, but I hope that you can do stuff outside of Europe for additional fun otherwise it will seem kinda barren.

Though Africa in general could use a pretty big buff in stuff (even Ethiopia)