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EU4 - Development Diary - 14th of July 2020

Good morning! Last week I revealed that the focus of the next update is South-East Asia, and gave a brief overview of the map setup for the mainland part of that region. Following on from that, today we’re going to look at Maritime South-East Asia.

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This rework is somewhat more radical than the rework of the mainland, which focussed primarily on adding detail and tactical depth to the existing setup. For the Maritime region I wanted to provide a very different and much more engaging campaign experience that reflected the thriving and diverse Malay world that existed historically.

First thing to note is that all of the surrounding sea zones have been converted to Inland Seas, meaning that galleys get combat bonuses in the region. Naval warfare was very important in the Malay world, and Malay fleets tended to consist of smaller vessels not unlike those used in Mediterranean warfare.

Let’s take a closer look at the map:

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Seen here is the Malay Peninsula and the island of Sumatra. Pattani and Kedah are no longer one-province minors; Pattani receives the inland province of Gerik, which historians believe may have been the origin of the kingdom, whie Kedah receives Penang, which would eventually become a point of conflict between the Sultanate and the British East India Company.

Malacca remains the dominant power on the Peninsula, but no longer controls the eastern half. The Sultanate of Kelantan and the Kingdom of Pahang are now independent. Pahang is the last non-Muslim polity on the Peninsula, and would historically be conquered by Malacca in 1454 and made into a vassal state. Its last Maharaja, Dewa Sura, sits upon a precarious throne. Kelantan is another city-state that would eventually fall to Malacca, and in 1444 shares a dynasty with the Sumatran nation of Jambi. Malacca has gained the province of Singapura, modern Singapore. Singapura is the origin of the Malacca Sultanate, and according to legend also the origin of many other Malay dynasties.

Quite a lot has changed on Sumatra. Besides its many additional nations and provinces, the central inland part of the island is now impassable. This to emphasize the importance of navies in the region and reflect how difficult it was to march armies across this hostile terrain.

There are several accounts of the origins of the Aceh Sultanate, located at the northern tip of Sumatra. It is generally considered to have come into being at the end of the 15th Century, being preceded by a kingdom named Lamuri about which we know little. I have opted to take a slightly ahistorical route and represent Aceh as a Sultanate in 1444. Aceh is one of the historical “winners” of the region; Sultan Iskandar Muda launched a successful campaign in the 17th Century that resulted in the conquests of much of Sumatra and the Malay Peninsula, and prior to that Aceh was already the dominant power in northern and western Sumatra. Aceh is also referred to as the “Porch of Mecca” owing to its importance in the spread of Islam to Maritime South-East Asia.

Western Sumatra is ruled by the Hindu and Buddhist nations of Barus, Pagaruyung, and Indrapura. Eastern Sumatra is far more Islamized, with the Sultanate of Deli, Siak, and Jambi having embraced the Sunni faith and leaving Palembang as the last Hindu state on that side of the island. On the topic of Palembang, it remains under the rule of Chinese elites following the expulsion of the pirates by Zheng He, and players that own Golden Century still have the option to restore the pirates to power. Palembang has received an additional province on the southern tip of the island; the area today known as Lampung produced an immense amount of pepper and as such has been given a significant goods produced modifier.


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Onwards to Java! The familiar kingdoms of Majapahit (Mahajapit, Majahapit, Mapajahit, Mahapajit, Mapajahit, Majahapit?) and Sunda have received a fair few additional provinces - Java is a very populated place both historically and today. Sunda is now the home of the Sundanese people, a new culture in the Malay group made distinct from Javanese. Two new nations appear on the map in 1444: Blambangan and Bali. Both are represented as Tributary States of Majapahit. Majapahit is a nation in its death throes. An empire that once spanned across Maritime South-East Asia is now struggling to hold together its remaining Javanese territory. We’ll talk more about the fall (and potential resurgence) of Majapahit in a later dev diary.


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Here we have Borneo (left), Sulawesi (center) and the Moluccas (right). These more distant nations, with the very notable exception of Brunei, have yet to embrace Islam and follow a mix of Hindu and Animist faiths. The Hindu kingdoms of Borneo are Sambas, Berau, Kutai, and Banjar. The Animist kingdoms of Sulawesi are Makassar, Bone, Luwu, and Buton. Coastal Borneo would become dominated by the Bruneian Empire during our period, which will be reflected in Brunei’s mission tree. The interior of Borneo remains impassable. Even today it is extremely difficult to traverse except by its indigenous tribal people, and no nation in our time period attempted to make incursions into the interior, being fully aware of the impossibility of maintaining rule.

Ternate and Tidore are the only nations in the aptly named Spice Islands. Tidore and Ternate share a small mission tree that allows them to colonize the surrounding islands. In 1444 they have a monopoly on a new trade good: Cloves. Cloves initially exist only on Tidore and Ternate themselves, but have a very high chance of being discovered on colonized provinces in the surrounding islands. With a base price of 8, a province effect of +20% local trade power, and a trading bonus of +5% trade efficiency Cloves are by far the most desirable trade good in the game prior to the availability of Coal. Note that as always, numbers presented in dev diaries are not final.


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The formable nation of Malaya has undergone several changes. Firstly, the requirements have changed to owning at least 40 provinces in the Malaya or Indonesia regions, as well as several specific provinces depending on your religion. When you form Malaya, you’ll immediately get an event giving you the option of what to name your new nation. You can always choose Malaya or Nusantara (a geographical Malay term for the entire region). If you have the Srivijaya dynasty - Malacca begins with it in 1444 - you can choose Srivijaya, while if you form the nation as Majapahit you can choose to name yourself the Majapahit Empire. This uses the same cosmetic name change mechanic that we introduced with the Kingdom of God in 1.30.

That’s all for this week! I haven’t yet decided on the topic of next week’s dev diary - most likely we’ll focus on a major nation in South-East Asia. If there’s any nation either in Mainland or Maritime South-East Asia you want me to talk about in more detail for next week, let me know in the comments and I’ll consider it. Until then, have a great week!

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So that's what, at least a dozen new tags when the early game performance is already crap? Oh boy, now just add in a new trade zone or two and we can really see some performance!!!!
 
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  1. Will the spread of Islam be adressed? The current "spread religion" trade focus works kind of backwards. It wasn't dominant muslim states that spread their religion, but the spread of Islam that led to the rise of muslim countries. For example Ternate embraced Islam without any muslim country active in their "trade node".
It should propagate Islam in a node upstream. Historically Islam spread from Arabia, to Gujarat, to Coromandel, to Bengal, to Malacca, to the Moluccas and Philippines. It seems like the current function is still too strong, because very limited areas were immediately effected, and really it always started with conversion of monarchs and governments, then nobles, but not spreading to commoners very quickly.

Anyways, I would prefer for there to be a few events in the base game for choice tags to convert to Islam, similar to what Funj in East Africa already has. Makassar, Ternate + Tidore, and Maguindanao would be great.
 
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So that's what, at least a dozen new tags when the early game performance is already crap? Oh boy, now just add in a new trade zone or two and we can really see some performance!!!!
Given certain detailed technical observations made by spade-type players in threads about 1.30.3's AI bugs (particularly regarding mercenaries and troop recruitment, where the AI is engaging in behaviour that is both self-destructive and liable to create high CPU load), I think you're overreacting.
 
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This update is definitely looking awesome, thank you for all your work! The one state I can really say is missing in 1444 is the Galuh Kingdom, the current eastern half of Sunda. Which makes sense, since weakening Sunda would mean strengthening Majapahit. But, maybe we can at least see it as a releasable?

Also, is there any chance we could please see a Java trade node? It doesn't make sense for such a populous, rich, powerful place like Java to be grouped in with the Moluccas, mainly valued for their spice production. Java had its own sphere of influence. In addition, Java could flow into both the Cape of Good Hope and Malacca nodes, and thus offer an alternative to dominating the Malacca node, encouraging competition between colonizers trying to establish power over Indonesia. This is what happened historically between the British (based in Malaysia), and the Dutch (based in Java).
 
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This looks really awesome. The region has always stuck out like a sore thumb and finally it is getting a rework. Cant’t wait to try it out.
 
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Nus Tenggar's area is too empty. Three new countries should appear there.
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The Kingdom of Wehali should appear on the island of Timor
Maluku and Nusa Tenggara

New Maps:
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Two different areas from two different side of the archipelago, but because each undergoes mostly small changes, I combined them into one segment.

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On one side, there is Maluku (also known as Spice Islands). While geographically isolated, being home to the heavily sought out spices, Maluku has surprisingly far reaching sphere of influences. From Gorontalo in Minahasa Peninsula, to Buton island southeast of Sulawsi, to Southern Philippine, to Papua’s birdhead.

At 1444, there are four powerful kingdoms dotted the archipelago. Jailolo, Ternate, Tidore, and Bacan. Ternate is the most expansionist of the four, leading to the creation of a union called Maloko Kie Raha (The Four Mountains) prior in 1300-ish to contain Ternate’s aggressive behavior, but to no avail. However, while Maloko Kie Raha failed to do what is supposed to do, the idea of a united Maluku now enter people consciousness. But, the archipelago has more than just the four kingdoms mentioned, and one of those other kingdoms is Loloda, the oldest kingdom between the five of them.

Each new province here are added to accommodate the old kingdoms, because the location of Ternate and Tidore in game is supposed to be location for Jailolo and Bacan respectively. The new provinces (province 1 [Ternate] and province 2 [Tidore]) still aren’t the actual province where these kingdoms are actually located, but I think is acceptable (because there were no kingdoms located on each island at the time).

The old province thus renamed to their actual name, Jailolo (province 3) and Bacan (province 5). Each host Jailolo kingdom and Bacan kingdom respectively. Halmahera also should have a kingdom on it, Loloda kingdom. Loloda wasn’t part of Maloko Kie Raha, but it was almost became part of it (if the king wasn’t thrown away by storm when he was on his way to the meeting place), and even until the European arrival, Loloda was still respected by other kingdoms (didn’t stop Ternate from invade and annex them at 1600s though).

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On the other side of the archipelago, there is Nusa Tenggara, also mostly known internationally as “Lesser Sunda Island”. Nusa Tenggara itself meant Southeastern Islands, referring to its general location which is in the southeastern part of Indonesia archipelago. While having no strong kingdom that able to match the like of Majapahit, Makassar, or Ternate, the archipelago is very unique culture wise because unlike any other part of the archipelago where either the Austronesian people or Melanesian people become the dominant culture, here the Austronesian and Melanesian are more heavily mixed.

Though as Paradox don’t want to have one province culture, I suppose it needs to be simplified in game, so the western part is more Austronesian (so should be part of Malay culture group) while the eastern part is more Melanesian (so should be Papuan as it currently in game).

At 1444, the archipelago is consisted mostly of small kingdoms, and under Majapahit influence. However, as Majapahit’s power wane, the western part of the archipelago consolidated and each island would have different kingdom that can claim to rule each island, and even beyond.

At the western most island, and the closest to Java, is Bali (Province 3). After the fall of Majapahit, Bali receives an influx of Javanese noble, and reach a new height of power. They now seek to expand to either the west and reclaim Java for Hindu, or expand their influence and population to Lombok in the east.

Lombok (Province 4) at the eve of Majapahit’s end is divided in to at least four kingdoms, but once Labuan Lombok moved its capital to Selaparang village and become Selaparang Sultanate, it grows into the most powerful and influential kingdom in Lombok. At its height, Selaparang’s royalty is involved in Sumbawa’s kingdom dynasties. When Bali invade Lombok, Selaparang is the one that able to face and repel Bali’s forces, with the help of Makassar.

The final island of the western part is Sumbawa. In EU4 timeline, the island was divided in to two parts, Samawa Sultanate in the west and Mbojo Sultanate (also known as Bima) in the east. Which is why the island is now divided in to Sumbawa (Province 5) and new province, Bima (Province 1). There was a third kingdom, Dompu, which is located in between of Samawa and Mbojo, but there is not enough land to have them in game. There was also a fourth kingdom, from a very different group of people, Tambora. But because the kingdom and its people are utterly destroyed by Tambora eruption in 1815, we knew very little of them.

After the fall of Majapahit, Makassar comes in to fill in the power vacuum. They convert the kingdom’s nobility to Islam and replace those who stayed animist with those who are muslim. When Bali invade Lombok, Samawa Sultanate is involved in helping their Lombok brethren. Mbojo on the other hand expand their influence to nearby Flores island.

The eastern part of the archipelago unfortunately didn’t have a more consolidated kingdom like their western counterpart. Still, once the European (specifically the Portuguese) eastern Nusa Tenggara became unique because this part of the archipelago became heavily Christianized instead of Islamized like most part of the archipelago. Larantuka is among few Christian kingdom in the archipelago, and I envisioned it to be spawnable like Manganitu to the north. It was located at the tail end of Flores, and its influence mostly spread to the smaller island to its immediate east. And to accommodate the new kingdom and event that will spawn it, I propose a new uncolonized province here, Larantuka (Province 2).

Aside from having Larantuka, the other change I propose is to have Sumba (province 4) to be part of Timor, because it doesn’t make sense to group it with Belitung island and Nias archipelago in Sumatra (they are hundred kilometers apart, separated by two massive islands). I also propose to change the Lesser Sunda Island area’s name in to Nusa Tenggara and add Bima in to it.

New Provinces:
1)
Name: Jailolo
Status: Owned by Jailolo
Terrain: Coastline
Culture: Moluccans
Trade Goods: Spices
Special Modifier: Strait to Halmahera, Spices Island

2)
Name: Tidore
Status: Owned by Tidore
Terrain: Coastline
Culture: Moluccans
Trade Goods: Spices
Special Modifier: Strait to Halmahera, Spices Island

Old Provinces and Its Change (if any):
3)
Old Name: Ternate
New Name: Ternate
Old Status: Owned by Ternate
New Status: Owned by Ternate
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Coastline
Old Culture: Moluccans
New Culture: Moluccans
Old Trade Goods: Spices
New Trade Goods: Spices
Old Special Modifier: Strait to Halmahera, Spices Island
New Special Modifier: Strait to Halmahera, Spices Island

4)
Old Name: Tidore
New Name: Bacan
Old Status: Owned by Tidore
New Status: Owned by Bacan
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Coastline
Old Culture: Moluccans
New Culture: Moluccans
Old Trade Goods: Spices
New Trade Goods: Spices
Old Special Modifier: Strait to Halmahera, Spices Island
New Special Modifier: Strait to Halmahera, Spices Island

5)
Old Name: Halmahera
New Name: Halmahera
Old Status: Uncolonized
New Status: Lolodo
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Coastline
Old Culture: Moluccans
New Culture: Moluccans
Old Trade Goods: Spices
New Trade Goods: Spices
Old Special Modifier: Strait to Ternate, Strait to Tidore
New Special Modifier: Strait to Ternate, Strait to Tidore, Strait to Jailolo, Strait to Bacan, Spices Island

New Provinces:
1)
Name: Bima
Status: Owned by Mbojo
Terrain: Coastline
Culture: Nusatenggaranese
Trade Goods: Dye
Special Modifier: Strait to Flores

2)
Name: Larantuka
Status: Uncolonized
Terrain: Coastline
Culture: Papuan
Trade Goods: -
Special Modifier: Strait to East Timor

Old Provinces and Its Change (if any):
3)
Old Name: Bali
New Name: Bali
Old Status: Owned by Majapahit
New Status: Owned by Bali
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Coastline
Old Culture: Javanese
New Culture: Nusatenggaranese
Old Trade Goods: Cloth
New Trade Goods: Cloth
Old Special Modifier: Strait to Lombok
New Special Modifier: Strait to Lombok

4)
Old Name: Lombok
New Name: Lombok
Old Status: Uncolonized
New Status: Owned by Selaparang
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Coastline
Old Culture: Papuan
New Culture: Nusatenggaranese
Old Trade Goods: -
New Trade Goods: Cloth
Old Special Modifier: Strait to Bali, Strait to Sumbawa
New Special Modifier: Strait to Bali, Strait to Sumbawa

5)
Old Name: Sumbawa
New Name: Sumbawa
Old Status: Uncolonized
New Status: Owned by Samawa
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Coastline
Old Culture: Papuan
New Culture: Nusatenggaranese
Old Trade Goods: -
New Trade Goods: Livestock
Old Special Modifier: Strait to Lombok, Strait Flores
New Special Modifier: Strait to Lombok

6)
Old Name: Sumba
New Name: Sumba
Old Status: Uncolonized
New Status: Uncolonized
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Coastline
Old Culture: Papuan
New Culture: Papuan
Old Trade Goods: -
New Trade Goods: -
Old Special Modifier: -
New Special Modifier: -

7)
Old Name: Flores
New Name: Flores
Old Status: Uncolonized
New Status: Uncolonized
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Coastline
Old Culture: Papuan
New Culture: Papuan
Old Trade Goods: -
New Trade Goods: -
Old Special Modifier: Strait to Timor, Strait to Lombok
New Special Modifier: Strait to Lombok

8)
Old Name: West Timor
New Name: West Timor
Old Status: Uncolonized
New Status: Uncolonized
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Coastline
Old Culture: Papuan
New Culture: Papuan
Old Trade Goods: -
New Trade Goods: -
Old Special Modifier: -
New Special Modifier: -

9)
Old Name: East Timor
New Name: East Timor
Old Status: Uncolonized
New Status: Uncolonized
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Coastline
Old Culture: Papuan
New Culture: Papuan
Old Trade Goods: -
New Trade Goods: -
Old Special Modifier: Strait to Flores
New Special Modifier: Strait to Larantuka

- Spice Island (Ternate, Tidore, Jailolo, Bacan, Halmahera)
- Nusatenggara (Bali, Lombok, Sumbawa, Bima)
- Timor (Flores, Larantuka, East Timor, West Timor, Sumba)

- Nusatenggarenese (Primary Nations: Bali)
- Papuan: (Primary Nations: Larantuka)

Maluku/Spice Islands
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Notes: The oldest of the four kingdoms in Maloko Kie Raha, and the second oldest if one count Loloda. Within Maloko Kie Raha concept, it was placed as “Ruler of the Bay” (jiko ma-kolano). Unfortunately, I am unable to find a complete list of its Kings and Sultans, so I left it to Paradox (or anyone who knows the list) to giver better detail on who lead when until Zainal Abidin Syah period (which I took liberty to decide when his reign started because I can’t find when he started to reign). Because Jailolo is the main target for Ternate’s expansion, Jailolo unfortunately ended earlier than other Maloko Kie Raha members. While it was revived by Tidore Sultan, Nuku, it then got destroyed yet again, soon after EU4 period.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Moluccan
National Ideas: Moluccan
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Jailolo
Provinces:
- Jailolo
Leader History:
Dynasty: Jailolo
1. Zainal Abidin Syah: 1520
2. Jusuf: 1527
3. Kertarabumi: 1534
4. Saubo: 1551
5. Doa: 1605
6. Saiuddin: 1613
7. Kaicil Alam: 1656

After Kaicil Alam’s death in 1684, the Sultanate absorbed by Ternate. It was revived by Nuku (A Tidore Sultan) later on.

8. Muhammad Arif Bila: 1784
9. Muhammad Asgar: 1807

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Notes: Unfortunately, as far as I know, their kings/sultans list missed the detail on who lead when between their third king (ruled pre-1400) to their first sultan (Zainal Abidin), so I left it to Paradox (or anyone who knows) to make the list from 1444 to Zainal Abidin, who converted to Islam in 1522. The flag, as you can see, is the flag used under the Dutch, and I can’t find a more suitable/distinctive flag. Bacan wasn’t big like Ternate and Tidore, or ancient like Jailolo, or weak like anyone that wasn’t part of Maloko Kie Raha. It was a perfectly middle power kingdom, located far away enough from ambitious kingdoms, that allow it to survived where Jailolo or Loloda did not. Its position in Moloku Kie Raha is the “Ruler of the Border” (kie ma-kolano).

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Moluccas
National Ideas: Moluccan
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Bacan
Provinces:
- Bacan
Leader History:
Dynasty: Bacan
1. Zainal Abidin: 1521
2. Kaicil Bolatu (Title: Bayanu Sirullah): 1555
3. Alauddin I: 1692
4. Muhammad Ali: 1630
5. Alauddin II: 1660. Sultan
6. Musa Malikuddin: 1706.
7. Kie Nasiruddin: 2 January 1715.
8. Hamza Tarafan Nur: 17 February 1732.
9. Muhammad Sahadin: 1741.
10. Skander Alam: 1780.
11. Muhammad Badaruddin: 1788.
12. Kamarullah: 1797.

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Notes: The most ancient of the five kingdoms in Maloko Kie Raha. Loloda was supposed to be part of Maloko Kie Raha, positioned as “The Wall Gate” (ngara ma-beno), but when Moti agreement was signed on 1322, its king was strucked by bad weather and stranded far away from Moti, and thus unable to be part of the meeting and ultimately Maloko Kie Raha, made it the bullying target of the four big nations. At 1444, Loloda still existed, but it was targeted by Ternate and ultimately annexed around 1627-1648. And because it is relatively a minor power, I am unable to find its kings/sultans list, so I left it to Paradox (or anyone who knows) to make one.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Moluccas
National Ideas: Moluccan
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Halmahera
Provinces:
- Halmahera

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Notes: A concept of distinct and somewhat united Moluccas is something that have existed for a long time, originated from 1322 through Moti Agreement that unite four Moluccas great kingdom under one banner of Maloko Kie Raha (The Four Mountains), though I’ve read several different names such as Maluku Kie Raha (The Realm of Four [Mountains]) or Maloku Kie Raha (Union of Four [Kingdoms]). 1322 Moti agreement was conceived as a way to protect Ternate from the ire of its neighbor (allowed it to continuously expanded) and to protect the other three kingdoms from Ternate. It was supposed to also include Loloda as a fifth Kingdom, but Loloda unable to join the at Moti. Historically, the union ultimate failed after Ternate invaded Jailolo multiple times. However, all of the four kingdoms still adopted Maloko Kie Raha concept as a unifying slogan, so I think it is fit to have Maloko as a formable kingdom for Moluccans who have united the archipelago.

Nusa Tenggara

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Notes: Selaparang was the strongest kingdom in Lombok at the end of Majapahit’s reign. It was started when Labuan Lombok kingdom moved its capital to Selaparang village, and by the time of Bali invasion, it was the strongest kingdom/sultanate to resist Bali’s forces. At its height, the royal family sire the head of Samawa and Mbojo sultanate. Unfortunately, unlike Samawa and Mbojo who survived to this day, Selaparang is destroyed by Bali’s forces, so it is rather hard to find who rule when for how long.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Nusatenggaranese
National Ideas: Generic
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Lombok
Provinces:
- Lombok
Leader History:
Dynasty: Selaparang
1. Demung Mumbul: 1440
2. Indrajaya: 1500
3. Mas Panji: 1550
4. Mas Panji Anom: 1600 (around this time, the kingdom become sultanate)
5. Mas Pamayam: 30 September 1648

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Notes: Located at the western part of Sumbawa, Samawa kingdom is one of two main kingdoms in Sumbawa island. Originally animist, after the fall of Majapahit, Makassar influence fill the vacuum left and forced a change of dynasty when Dewa Awan Mas Kuning dynasty refuse to embrace Islam. Outside of Makassar, Sumbawa also has a close connection with Selaparang kingdom, as both kingdoms are muslim and Selaparang’s royalty is closely link with Sumbawa’s one. While Samawa sultanate doesn’t have far reaching influence outside Sumbawa, their close connection with Selaparang means when Bali invade Lombok, Samawa readily help Selaparang.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Nusatenggaranese
National Ideas: Generic
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Sumbawa
Provinces:
- Larantuka
Leader History:
Dynasty: Dewa Awan Mas Kuning (Animist)
1. Awan Mas Kuning: 1430
2. Majarua: 1478
There is a gap of unknown ruler (at least I can’t find them) from 1597 to 1610
3. Maja Paruwa: 1610
4. Mas Goa: 1633

Dynasty: Dewa Dalam Bawa (Islam)
1. Mas Cini: 1637
2. Raja Utan: 1668
3. Harunnurrasyid I: 1674
4. Muhammad Jalaluddin I: 1701
5. Loka Ling Sampar: 1723
6. Ling Gunung Setia: 1725
7. Mapasusung Moh Kaharuddin I: 1731
8. Siti Aisyah (female): 1759
9. Hasanuddin: 1761
10. Muhammad Jalaluddin II: 1763
11. Mappacongga Mustafa: 1765
12. Harunnurrasyid II: 1776
13. Shafiyatuddin: 1791
13. Muhammad Kaharuddin II: 1795
14. Nene Ranga Mele Manyurang: 1816

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Notes: Situated on the eastern part of Sumbawa island, Mbojo (also known as Bima by people outside the kingdom) has more spaces to spread its influence compared to its sister kingdom, Samawa. When Makassar comes to fill in the vacuum left by Majapahit, Mbojo converted to Islam and trusted to govern over Flores’ kingdom called Manggarai. As such, when the European comes to the island, Bima is known to exert its influence over Flores and Sumba island.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Nusatenggaranese
National Ideas: Generic
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Bima
Provinces:
- Bima
Leader History:
Dynasty: Mbojo
Animist
1. Mawaä Indera Mbojo: 1440
2. Mawaä Bilmana: 1450
3. Manggampo Donggo: 1460
4. Mambora ba Pili Tuta: 1472
5. Tureli Nggampo: 1485
6. Mawaä Ndapa: 1504
7. Ruma Samara: 1519
8. Ruma Sarise: 1535
9. Ruma Mantau Asi Sawo: 1545
10. Ruma Manuru Sarei: 1563
11. Tureli Nggampo: 1570
12. Mambora di Sapega: 1590
13. Mantau Asi Peka: 1610

Islam
14. Abdul Kahir: 1640 (Only last “several months”)
15. Ambela Abu'l-Khair Sirajuddin: 1640
16. Nuruddin Abubakar Ali Syah: 1682
17. Jamaluddin Ali Syah: 1687
18. Hasanuddin Muhammad Ali Syah: 1697
19. Alauddin Muhammad Syah: 1731
20. Kamalat Syah (female): 1748
21 Abdul Kadim Muhammad Syah: 1751
22. Abdul Hamid Muhammad Syah: 1773
23. Ismail Muhammad Syah: 1817

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Notes: A kingdom lies down under in Flores, Larantuka was one of few Christian kingdom in the archipelago and thus very isolated from another kingdoms/sultanate, though of course historically it was surrounded by smaller kingdoms/tribes. Much like Manganitu, I propose the kingdom to be spawnable by event once a Catholic European country find the Moluccas region. Unfortunately, I am unable to find its flag, so I attached Flores Timur regency symbol as reference for Paradox to make the flag.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Papuan
National Ideas: Generic
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Larantuka
Provinces:
- Larantuka
Leader History:
Dynasty: Diaz Viera de Godinho
1. Ola Ado Bala (Converted to Catholic in 1665 and rechristened as Don Fransisco Diaz Viera de Godinho): 1645
2. Don Gaspar I: 1685
3. Don Manuel: 1730
4. Don Contantino Blanterang de Rosari: 1765
5. Don Andre I DVG: 1792
6. Don Laurenso I: 1818

Dominate The Moluccas Trade Node
Success: [Country] is the strongest trade power in The Moluccas Trade Node
Effects:
- Get 40 Ducats
- Get 40 Diplomatic Points

Form Maloko
--Desc: The Moti Agreement might have failed its purpose, but its dream of united Maloko lives on. Now, with the archipelago under our rule, the dream of Maloko Kie Raha can finally be fulfilled.
Requirement:
- Primary Culture is Moluccan
- Capital in Spice Island area
- Owned Ternate, Jailolo, Tidore, Bacan, and Halmahera
Effects:
- Change Country to Maloko
- Gain 20 Prestige
- +10% Trade Goods Production for 20 years

Conversion of Larantuka
--Desc: There has been many tribes inhabiting Flores island. However, with European arrival, comes new idea and new era. As their leader, Ola Adabala, baptized to Christianity, Larantuka enter new chapter as Christian Kingdom in the archipelago.
Result: Larantuka Kingdom is founded in Larantuka province
 
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Given certain detailed technical observations made by spade-type players in threads about 1.30.3's AI bugs (particularly regarding mercenaries and troop recruitment, where the AI is engaging in behaviour that is both self-destructive and liable to create high CPU load), I think you're overreacting.
not if your game went unplayable due both the 1.29 and 1.30 patches. The fear is real. It takes now 10 minutes to observe the first 5 years in game (it took around 4 minutes a year ago)
 
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Will Sulu, Maguindanao, and Lanao get their own Bangsamoro culture separate from Filipino, or at least shift to Bornean? This has bugged me as a Bangsamoro for a while. We're culturally closer to Brunei than the Philippines.

Also, I am of the belief Sulu and Manila should be vassals of Brunei at some point. Sulu should be Brunei's vassal at the 1444 start, and get Manila at around 1500. Brunei should lose them as vassals around June 1578, which is the end of the Castillian War or the Spanish Expedition to Brunei. Its an event that had put a stop to rapid Bruneian expansion, and set the Bruneian Empire onto a stage of slow decline.
 
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Are there any new events to see Majapahit break up? I almost never see the Javanese states (i.e. Mataram, Demak, etc.) appear.
 
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Woo! Finally Indonesia (and Malaysia and Brunei and Singapore) update!

Okay, a lot to like here, but for brevity I'll compact it in to two point.

First, really love that we finally have inland sea for South East Asia. It is long overdue, both from gameplay and geographical sense. And it really good to have Sundanese as its own culture. The Javanese in me can't be happy without the cultural rival in the game (and really, it just make sense).

Second, I mentioned previously that I wish two things from SEA update in Indonesia: More Provinces and More Tags. And this dev diary fulfilled it. Especially pleasing is to finally have inland provinces in Java and enough inland province in Kalimantan so it no longer a pie chart (at least not as obvious as before). We finally get Bone Kingdom and we got a lot more tags in Kalimantan. So thank you.

Now, there are two things that I wish is in the game, and I've suggested it, but don't make it.

First, is the lack of Batak province. Unless Barus is culturally Batak (as they should've), I doubt Batak is in the game, so that is a regretful miss, especially because Batak would mostly convert to Christianity (or retain their animist way) unlike their neighbor who all become Muslim. But, ultimately it is a small thing as Batak only become very influential later in Indonesia history.

Second, there are no new tags/province in Nusa Tenggara, which is a shame, because it would enrich the experience in the Southern side of the archipelago. The addition of Blambangan and Bali alleviate it somewhat though, so I am okay with it.

However, there is one thing that I must say I disagree with, and I hope you reconsider.

That is the shape of provinces in Sumatra. I've mentioned several times before that I dislike the old Kalimantan because it was a Pie Chart. So the fact that Sumatra is now a pie chart, even if it has two inland province, is rather irritating to me. I propose that maybe add an uncolonized province between Pagaruyung and Indragiri, called it "Kuantan Singingi" or "Kuansing". Sumatra's jungle is thick, but not as impenetrable as Kalimantan, so at least give it a mountain pass. When even Alps get mountain pass, I think Bukit Barisan deserve to get at least one.

I now have four questions/request:

First, can we see the cultural map?

Second, Is Natuna a different province, or is it still connected to Sambas/Pontianak? I hope you change it so Natuna is its own province. Its importance historically and for recent geopolitic demands it to be its own province.

Third, are there releasable tags in the region? Nations such as Demak, Mataram, Cirebon, and Banten didn't exist at the start of the game, but they were important player in future and I believe should've been in the game (heck, their tags are in game, but not possible to exist if you start in 1444).

Fourth, do you have plan for Chinese Kongsi in Indonesia? Lanfang Republic exist in the game, but not at 1444, so most player won't see it or even know about such fascinating republic in Southeast Asia.

As for your question about what nation should be discussed next, my Javanese blood is asking for Majapahit. But if you want to hold Majapahit until later Dev Diary, then I want those kingdoms in Sulawesi. Especially Bone Kingdom, because Arung Palakka is a very fascinating person to talk about.
 
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Will Sulu, Maguindanao, and Lanao get their own Bangsamoro culture separate from Filipino, or at least shift to Bornean? This has bugged me as a Bangsamoro for a while. We're culturally closer to Brunei than the Philippines.

Also, I am of the belief Sulu and Manila should be vassals of Brunei at some point. Sulu should be Brunei's vassal at the 1444 start, and get Manila at around 1500. Brunei should lose them as vassals around June 1578, which is the end of the Castillian War or the Spanish Expedition to Brunei. Its an event that had put a stop to rapid Bruneian expansion, and set the Bruneian Empire onto a stage of slow decline.

No no, I disagree about Manila, the Bruneians just made the Rajahnate of Maynila to weaken Tondo. The Bruneians influenced Maynila only by intermarriage, but not militarily nor politically. Maguindanao, Sulu and Lanao as Bornean? Just because you guys are Muslim doesn't mean you're culturally closer. You guys still speak the Visayan or Tausug languages and they're all Filipino!
 
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Two or three new countries should appear on Sulawesi Island
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Banggai Kingdom
In Indonesian:
Sulawesi

New Maps:
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Sulawesi name means “Iron Island”. The island is named Sulawesi because it was one of its primary export. So, if one wants to have an island called Sulawesi, it better has iron in it.

Sulawesi island is a peculiar one because it is an island full of Peninsula. With four main peninsulas, each with its own historical events, Sulawesi promised a lot of possibility of setup. Unfortunately, the island is thin, so not many provinces can be fit in, and mountainous, so the kingdoms usually weren’t that big. With those limitation in mind, I think the island can be divided in to three parts: The south; The middle; And the north.

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Most of the well-known events that happen in Sulawesi at 15th century onward, happened in the South Peninsula. The rising wealth brought by trade resulted in an aggressive expansion by Makassar toward its Bugis neighbor. This lead Bugis kingdoms to unite under an alliance to contain Makassar. The defeat against this Bugis alliance would lead to Makassar King conversion to Islam and then spread Islam to the rest of Peninsula. But the conflict didn’t end with the conversion of the Peninsula. Makassar and Bone would continue to duck it out until Arung Palaka brought Bone to dominate the whole South Peninsula.

New provinces are necessary to represent this conflict. Province 1 (Bone), 2 (Soppeng), and 3 (Wajo) are added so Bugis kingdoms can be in game. Provinces 6 (Luwu) was part of Luwu Kingdom (another Bugis kingdom, currently in game only own Palopo [province 10]) so it should be there.

Talking about Bugis, I think it is necessary to make Makassar its own culture. I know Paradox don’t want to have another single province culture, but to represent the conflict well, Makassar should be its own culture (although paradox could split Makassar [province 9] to Goa and Tallo provinces so Makassarese will have two province).

Buton is technically part of this political contention, but I don’t think they need to be changed.

So, in between of the South Peninsula and Minahasa Peninsula, there is the middle part. Unfortunately, the history here isn’t well documented, so I left it uncolonized. What I want here is to have a more sensible border between each province and make them have mountain or hill terrain, because the mountainous terrain is the reason there is no influential kingdom can become regional power. Its location that is far enough from outside power also mean outside power have hard time to contact and influence them, unlike their brethren on the north.

Province 4 (Mamuju) and 5 (North Mamuju) is part of Toraja culture, so I want to make them separate. Palopo (capital of Luwu kingdom) also has sizeable Toraja people, so I propose to have Palopo’s culture to Toraja, but Luwu itself is of Bugis culture.

Province 7 (Banggai) is also new, separated from Poso, which theoretically is there for Ternate to colonize, to represent the influence of Ternate sultanate at the province in later date.

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While the history of the rest of Sulawesi, outside the South Peninsula, is unfortunately poorly documented, I feel the information I get for the Minahasa peninsula (and nearby islands) is more interesting for the game than the other part of the island. Minahasa Peninsula is a busy place. From linguistic perspective, there are a lot more culture types here than most of the archipelago, suggesting that Minahasa Peninsula is the entry point for Austronesian to the archipelago.

In 1444, there are kingdoms here, especially on the part that face Tomini Gulf, because of trade with the Moluccans. The most interesting thing however, is how the increasing contact with Moluccans and Europeans, ultimately shape the future of the area, forcing previously animist kingdoms and tribes to various Abrahamic Faiths, and with each different religion they adopted, you can see which outside power that they ultimately submitted to.

Only one province here is new, province 8 (Sangihe-Talaud), which is there so Manganitu kingdom can be spawned when European arrived. The rest are old provinces, but some now have kingdom in them.

The first is Gorontalo (Province 13), which later converted to Islam under Ternate influence. The second is in Manado (Province 14), where Bolaang-Mongondow kingdom located. Bolaang-Mongondow later converted to Reformed under the Dutch influence. Both Gorontalo sultanate and Bolaang-Mongondow would start in the game as animist, except for the later start date.

By having tags in Minahasa peninsula, aside from better represent history, it should make the island and northern part of Indonesia archipelago more actives.

1)
Name: Bone
Status: Owned by Bone
Terrain: Grassland
Culture: Bugis
Trade Goods: Fish
Special Modifier: -

2)
Name: Sopeng
Status: Owned by Sopeng
Terrain: Highland
Culture: Bugis
Trade Goods: Tropical Wood
Special Modifier: -

3)
Name: Wajo
Status: Owned by Wajo
Terrain: Highland
Culture: Bugis
Trade Goods: Fish
Special Modifier: -

4)
Name: Mamuju
Status: Uncolonized
Terrain: Hill
Culture: Toraja
Trade Goods: -
Special Modifier: -

5)
Name: North Mamuju
Status: Uncolonized
Terrain: Hill
Culture: Toraja
Trade Goods: -
Special Modifier: -

6)
Name: Luwu
Status: Owned by Luwu
Terrain: Highland
Culture: Bugis
Trade Goods: Iron
Special Modifier: -

7)
Name: Banggai
Status: Uncolonized
Terrain: Hills
Culture: Sulawesian
Trade Goods: -
Special Modifier: -

8)
Name: Sangihe-Talaud
Status: Uncolonized
Terrain: Coastline
Culture: Sulawesian
Trade Goods: -
Special Modifier: -

9)
Old Name: Makassar
New Name: Makassar
Old Status: Owned by Makassar
New Status: Owned by Makassar
Old Terrain: Grassland
New Terrain: Grassland
Old Culture: Sulawesian
New Culture: Makassarese
Old Trade Goods: Spices
New Trade Goods: Spices
Old Special Modifier: Coastal Center of Trade
New Special Modifier: Coastal Center of Trade

10)
Old Name: Palopo
New Name: Palopo
Old Status: Owned by Luwu
New Status: Owned by Luwu
Old Terrain: Hills
New Terrain: Highland
Old Culture: Sulawesian
New Culture: Toraja
Old Trade Goods: Spices
New Trade Goods: Spices
Old Special Modifier: -
New Special Modifier: -

11)
Old Name: Poso
New Name: Poso
Old Status: Uncolonized
New Status: Uncolonized
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Hill
Old Culture: Sulawesian
New Culture: Sulawesian
Old Trade Goods: -
New Trade Goods: -
Old Special Modifier: -
New Special Modifier: -

12)
Old Name: Palu
New Name: Palu
Old Status: Uncolonized
New Status: Uncolonized
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Hill
Old Culture: Sulawesian
New Culture: Sulawesian
Old Trade Goods: -
New Trade Goods: -
Old Special Modifier: -
New Special Modifier: -

13)
Old Name: Gorontalo
New Name: Gorontalo
Old Status: Uncolonized
New Status: Owned by Gorontalo
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Highland
Old Culture: Sulawesian
New Culture: Sulawesian
Old Trade Goods: -
New Trade Goods: Fish
Old Special Modifier: -
New Special Modifier: -

14)
Old Name: Manado
New Name: Manado
Old Status: Uncolonized
New Status: Owned by Bolaang-Mongondow
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Highland
Old Culture: Sulawesian
New Culture: Sulawesian
Old Trade Goods: -
New Trade Goods: Fish
Old Special Modifier: -
New Special Modifier: -

15)
Old Name: Kendari
New Name: Kendari
Old Status: Uncolonized
New Status: Uncolonized
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Hills
Old Culture: Sulawesian
New Culture: Sulawesian
Old Trade Goods: -
New Trade Goods: -
Old Special Modifier: Strait to Buton
New Special Modifier: Strait to Buton

16)
Old Name: Buton
New Name: Buton
Old Status: Owned by Buton
New Status: Owned by Buton
Old Terrain: Coastline
New Terrain: Coastline
Old Culture: Sulawesian
New Culture: Sulawesian
Old Trade Goods: Spices
New Trade Goods: Iron
Old Special Modifier: Strait to Kendari
New Special Modifier: Strait to Kendari

- South Peninsula (Makassar, Bone, Soppeng, Wajo)
- Toraja (Mamuju, North Mamuju, Palopo)
- Southeast Peninsula (Buton, Kendari, Luwu)
- East Peninsula (Poso, Banggai)
- Minahasa Peninsula (Palu, Gorontalo, Manado, Sangihe-Talaud)

- Makassarese (Primary Nation: Makassar)
- Bugis (Primary Nation: Bone)
- Toraja
- Sulawesian (Primary Nation: Buton)

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Notes: Bone is the main rival of Makassar, and the lack of Bone in game is currently the most obvious and glaring issue in current South Sulawesi setup. Bone, along with Wajo and Soppeng, create Tellumpoccoe alliance, which was a coalition against Makassar aggressive expansion in to Bugis territory. While facing set back earlier by being defeated by Makassar, Bone ultimately triumphant and under Arung Palaka took control of the whole South Peninsula.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Bugis
National Ideas: Sulawesi
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Bone
Provinces:
- Bone
Leader History:
Dynasty: Bone

Animist Period
1. La Saliyu Karampelluwa: 1424
2. Ibenri Gau Arung Majang: 1496
3. La Tenri Sukki: 1516
4. La Uliyo Bote’E: 1543
5. La Tenri Rawe BongkangngE: 1568
6. La Inca’: 1584
7. La Pattawe MatinroE ri Bulukumba: 1595
8. We Tenri Tuppu Maddussila: 1602

Islam Period
9. La Tenri Pale To Akkappeang Arung Timurung: 1611
10. La Maddaremmeng: 1625
11. La Tenroaji Tosenrima: 1640
12. La Tenri Tatta Arung Palakka: 1667
13. La Patau Matanna Tikka: 1696
14. Batari Toja Dattalaga Arung Timurung: 1714
15. La Padassajati: 1715
16. La Pareppa To Sappewali: 1718
17. La Panaongi To Pawawoi: 1721
18. Batari Toja Dattalaga Arung Timurung: 1724
19. La TemmassongE TO AppaingE: 1749
20. La Tenri Tappu: 1775
21. To Appatunru: 1812

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Notes: The middle brother of Tellumpoccoe alliance. Less important than Bone, but an important part of the South Sulawesi political situation. I can’t find its flag file online, but I got a picture of it. The Arabic mark surrounding the beast inside shown the flag was created after they became muslim, so for its animist version Paradox might want to just have the beast.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Sumatran
National Ideas: Sumatran
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Wajo
Provinces:
- Wajo
Leader History:
Dynasty: Wajoq

Animist Period
1. La Palewo to Palippu: 1474
2. La Obbi Settiriware: 1481
3. La Tenriumpu to Langi: 1486
4. La Tadampare Puangrimaggalatung: 1491

Regency for 3 years

5. La Tenri Pakado To Nampe: 1524
6. La Temmassonge: 1535
7. La Warani To Temmagiang: 1538
8. La Malagenni: 1547
9. La Mappauli To Appamadeng: 1548
10. La Pakoko To Pa’bele’: 1564
11. La Mungkace To Uddamang: 1567

Islam Period
12. La Sangkuru Patau Mulajaji: 1607
13. La Mappepulu To Appamole: 1612
14. La Samalewa To Appakiung: 1616
15. La Pakallongi To Alinrungi: 1621
16. To Mappassaungnge: 1627
17. La Pakallongi To Alinrungi: 1628
18. La Tenri lai to Udamang: 1636
19. Isigajang To Bunne: 1639
20. La Makkaraka To Patemmui: 1643
21. La Temmasonge: 1648
22. La Paramma To Rewo: 1651
23. La Tenri Lai To Sengngeng: 1658
24. La Palili To Malu’: 1670
25. La Pariusi Daeng Manyampa: 1679
26. La Tenri Sessu: 1699
27. La Mattone’: 1702
28. La Galigo To Sunnia: 1703
29. La Tenri Werung: 1712
30. La Salewangeng To Tenriruwa: 1715
31. La Maddukkelleng Daeng Simpuang: 1736
32. La Mad’danaca: 1754
33. La Passaung: 1758
34. La Mappajung puanna salowo: 1761
35. La Malliungeng: 1767

Regency

36. La Mallalengeng: 1795

Regency for 4 years

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Notes: The younger brother of Tellumpoccoe alliance, and the least significant (so much that I am unable to find its actual flag, these are flags attributed to them but I can’t verified it), but its conversion to Islam (and thus helping Makassar against its Bugis Brother) is enough to help Makassar won the fight against other Bugis kingdom and spread Islam across the peninsula.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Bugis
National Ideas: Sulawesi
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Soppeng
Provinces:
- Soppeng
Leader History:
Dynasty: Soppeng
Animist
1. La Makkanengnga (Title: Manurungge Risekkanyuli): 1438
2. La Makkarella (Title: Manurungge Risekkanyuli): 1468
3. La Pawiseng (Title: Manurungge Risekkanyuli): 1500
4. La Pasampoi (Title: Sorompalie): 1530
5. La Mannuga (Title: Towakkareng Matinro Ri): 1534
6. La ’De (Title: Tanana): 1556
7. La Matesso (Title: Mabolongnge): 1560
8. La Sekkati (Title: Puang Lipue Patolae): 1575

Islam
9. Beowe (Title: Agellang): 1601 (converted to Islam in 1609)
10. La Tenri Bali (Title: Patolae): 1620
11. We Adan (Title: Patolae): 1654
12. Tenri Senge (Title: Matinroe Ri Riaddtunna): 1666
13. La Patao (Title: Matinroe Ri Madello): 1696
14. La Pada Sejati (Title: Title: Matinroe Ri Salassana): 1714
15. La Pareppa (Title: Ranreng Toa Maintroe Ri): 1721
16. La Pada Sejati (Title: Naga Matinroe Ri Beula): 1722
17. Batara Ri Toja (Title: Matinroe Ri Somba Opu): 1727
18. La Uddang Ri Lau (Title: Matinroe Ri Beula): 1737
19. Batara Ri Toja (Title: Matinroe Ri Luwu): 1742
20. La Temma Senge (Title: Matinroe Ri Musuna): 1744
21. La Tongenge (Title: Matinroe Ri Luwu): 1746
22. La Mappajanci (Title: Matinroe Ri Mallimongan): 1747
23. Lamappapoleonro (Title: Matinroe Ri Launa): 1765
24. Tenria Warutenti (Title: Matinroe Ri Launa): 1820

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Notes: Much like all kingdoms in North Sulawesi, Gorontalo wasn’t a united kingdom. There were several smaller kingdoms that existed in Gorontalo, so I use one that called itself Gorontalo (which also problematic because it later split in to two). The reason I am proposing the kingdom to be included is because Gorontalo ultimately converted to Islam under Ternate influence, which is a good contrast to neighboring Bolaang-Mongondow and Manganitu kingdom who converted to Chrisitanity under European influence.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Sulawesian
National Ideas: Generic
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Gorontalo
Provinces:
- Gorontalo
Leader History:
Dynasty: Tilayo

Animist Period
1. Wadipalapa: 1385
2. Uloli: 1427
3. Walango: 1450
4. Polamolo: 1481
5. Ntihedu (Female): 1490
6. Detu: 1503
7. Amai: 1523

Islam Period
8. Matolofula Kiki: 1550
9. Pongoliwu Daa: 1585
10. Moliye (Female): 1615
11. Eyato: 1646
12. Polamolo II Tomito: 1674
13. Lepehulawa: 1686
14. Nuwa: 1735
15. Walango: 1767
16. Bia: 1798
17. Haidari: 1809

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Notes: Much like all kingdom in North Sulawesi, there wasn’t a united kingdom in Manado province. There were several smaller kingdoms that existed in Manado province. Unfortunately, there was no Manado kingdom, in fact Bolaang-Mongondow existance as kingdom push Manado’s tribe to unite. The reason I am proposing Bolaang-Mongondow to be included, aside from being arguably the most dominant in the province, is because they became Reformed under the Dutch influence, which is a nice contrast to Gorontalo that converted to Islam and Manganitu that converted to Catholic. Unfortunately, I can’t find a Bolaang-Mongondow symbol to be used as flag, unlike Gorontalo, so I attached the Bolaang-Mongondow regency symbol as reference.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Sulawesian
National Ideas: Generic
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Manado
Provinces:
- Manado
Leader History:
Dynasty: Manoppo

Animist Period
1. Mokodoludut: 1400
2. YayuBangkai: 1460
3. Damopolii: 1480
4. Busisi: 1510
5. Mokodompit: 1560
6. Tadohe: 1600
7. Loloda Mokoagow: 1653

Reformed Period
8. Yakobus: 1694
9. Fransiscus: 1695
10. Salomon: 1735
11. Egenius: 1764
12. Christofeel: 1767
13. Markus: 1770
14. Manuel: 1773

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Notes: Much like all kingdom in North Sulawesi, there wasn’t a united kingdom in Sangihe-Talaud archipelago. Even in small island like Sangihe, Manganitu was only one from several kingdoms that existed there. The reason I am proposing Manganitu to be included, is because they became Catholic under Spanish influence, which is a nice contrast to its mainland neighbor that became Islam or Reformed. However, unfortunately I am unable to find its historical leader list that trace back to pre-1600 era, so I only listed its king from 1670 onward (the first time a Christian king rule). And because of that, unlike Gorontalo and Bolaang-Mongondow however, I propose Manganitu to be spawned by an event once a Catholic European country discover Moluccas region.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Sulawesian
National Ideas: Generic
Religion: Catholic
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Sangihe-Talaud
Provinces:
- Sangihe-Talaud
Leader History:
Dynasty: Manganitu

Catholic Period
1. Bataha Santiago: 1670
2 Charles Diamanti: 1675
3. Marthin Joutulong Takaengetang: 1694
4. Marthin Don Lazaru: 1725
5. Salmon Grahun Darunaling Katiandagho: 1750
6. Marthin Lombangsuwu Katiandagho: 1770
7. Daniel Katiandagho Darunualing II: 1785
8. Bagunda Katiandagho: 1792
9. Dirk Mokodompis Lokombanua III: 1817

Notes: Not a new nation, but I propose for it to have new culture, Makassar, to better represent the cultural rivalry between it and Bone.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Makassar
National Ideas: Sulawesi
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Makassar
Provinces:
- Makassar

Notes: Not a new nation, but with new culture and provinces layout, they need some change. They should now own Palopo and Luwu, and their culture should be Bugis like their other Bugis brother.

Government: Merchant Kingdom
Primary Culture: Bugis
National Ideas: Sulawesi
Religion: Animist
Technology Group: Chinese
Capital: Palopo
Provinces:
- Palopo
- Luwu

Dominate The Moluccas Trade Node
Success: [Country] is the strongest trade power in The Moluccas Trade Node
Effects:
- Get 40 Ducats
- Get 40 Diplomatic Points

Dominate Java Trade Node
Success: [Country] is the strongest trade power in Java Trade Node
Effects:
- Get 40 Ducats
- Get 40 Diplomatic Points

Conversion of Manganitu
--Desc: The Sangihe-Talaud archipelago is divided into many smaller kingdoms, most still hold to their animist belief. With the European arrival however, people began to convert to Christianity. Now under their new Christian king, Bataha Santiago, Manganitu kingdom rise as the only power in Sangihe-Talaud willing to resist the European forces.
Result: Manganitu Kingdom is founded in Sangihe-Talaud province
 
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@neondt

As an Indonesian and EUIV player with more than 5000 playing hours, I would like to give some simple suggestions:

SUMATRA
1. Make some connection between Sumatran east and west coast. Already a good choice bringing Bukit Barisan mountains as impassable terrain (which helps properly modelling history just like you described), but historically Minangkabau area is in the same sphere of influence as Riau and Jambi. Maybe link Rokan to Pariaman, or Indragiri and Pagarruyung? While we're on that, I think Indragiri province (the inland one) should be renamed Kuantan (the name of Indragiri River in its upstream side) or Kampar (another major river in that area), while Rengat province is renamed to Indragiri (modern-day Rengat is the capital of Upper Indragiri Regency in Riau Province, Indonesia).
2. Palembang and Tulangbewang province should be divided. Divide Palembang into inland and coastal province (I believe another user has suggested this too); with the capital of Palembang nation and the trade center in coastal province, while the inland represents less developed, mountainous region and can be named Lahat (the biggest city) or Rawas (as another user suggested). Tulangbewang is too large and should be separated to represent that, maybe split it east/west, the east half named Tulangbawang (the correct spelling) and the west half Tanggamus (modern name and a prominent mountain there).
3. Please make Singapore an island and separated from Johor via passable strait. Aaaand... maybe use a more localized name, such as Temasek (the Malay old name for the island) and put Singapore as dynamic name if conquered by the British/European.
4. Put Lake Toba on the map, even though it is in wasteland between Deli and Barus. It is too big of a lake or natural landmark to not be represented on the map.

JAVA
1. My hometown is where the Sunda troops in the screenshot stands :) and I notice that you divide Pakuan into two provinces, which is good. The terrain should be at least hilly for both provinces. The names are too small to read, but I hope the inland one (where my hometown of Bogor is) should be named Pakuan (the original Sunda Pakuan Kingdom was there), and the rest of it named Pajajaran (historical and modern poetic name of the area, where Bandung, the current capital of Sundanese-majority West Java Province is), and the border moved to the east, reducing the size of Kawali Province.
2. New province east of Kediri (Malang?) can be better named Singhasari, the traditional kingdom seen as predecessor of great Majapahit Empire (the founder of Majapahit is the son-in-law of last Singhasari king). Malang is a relatively modern name of the area, and the city of Malang is not even 200 years old.
3. Surabaya should be divided into 2 provinces, east (where the current Surabaya is) and the west half can be named Cepu or Bojonegoro or Lamongan (Jaka Tingkir the founder of Pajang Sultanate is from this area).
4. The name Karta, I believe, does not have any historical or modern basis whatsoever. Consider Banyumas (the modern name of the region).
5. I hope there'll be an event in renaming Pajang to Surakarta and Kotagede to Yogyakarta (maybe the formation of Surakarta and Yogyakarta sultanate in 17th century)?

KALIMANTAN/BORNEO
1. Meliau is a good name representing a small kingdom in that area, but the province itself should be more correctly named Sanggau. Meliau can still be the name of the province capital. I live in the nearby area of Katapang :)
2. Sampit is the biggest city in the area since long time ago, but the province itself should be more correctly named Kotawaringin. The name is still used today, and it was the name of a major pre-Islamic Malay kingdom in that area, since the heyday of Majapahit (they were a tributary of Majapahit).
3. If you are gonna name one province Banjar and another Batulicin, please move the border between them to the east, or move the Banjar province altogether to the east and give Barito province a coast (Barito is a river and Barito area traditionally encompass the entire river watershed). The center of Banjar area (city of Banjarmasin and Martapura, seat of the Banjar Sultanate) is located far east of the current border in your map. But if you are gonna stick to this map, maybe Batulicin should be renamed Banjar, Banjar renamed to Barito, and Barito renamed to Kahayan/Katingan. And maybe you can put a trade center preferably in the southeastern tip of Borneo (where the port of Banjarmasin is located, both historically and currently).
4. Please, please, pleaseeee rename Jesselton. It is unforgivable after 31 updates and finally we get SEA update that the province is still being named anachronistically (Jesselton is a name given by the British who named this area long after EUIV timeframe). The better name is Sabah (the name of the northeastern half of Borneo) or Kinabalu (the native name of Jesselton city, and the current name used by Malaysian government).

SULAWESI
1. Mamuju is the biggest city; the province will be better named Mandar (the dominant ethnic group).
2. Divide further the new northern province of Makassar, and name the northern half Toraja to represent the distinct identity there? Historically, the area also have never fall into the Makassar or Bugis sphere of influence (I see a new Bugis tag though, it is absolutely spot on!).

NUSA TENGGARA
1. Sumbawa island is quite big and can be divided in two. The western half still named Sumbawa and the eastern half Bima. The names are still used today, and they have historical basis as these are the old Sumbawan kingdoms.

I'd like to see cultural mapmode and trade goods of Indonesia. I hope there will be some diversity not only in Java (where the separation of Sunda culture from Javanese is a good choice to represent historically divided island of Java); but also in Sumatra. Maybe try to make Batak or Aceh ethnic group separated from Sumatran, or to give provinces in Riau / Minangkabau areas to Malayan culture (they are practically one ethnic with same history before colonial powers divide the area).

Overall a good change of map! Really glad to see my country are finally represented somewhat correctly.
 
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First, I'm happy to see SEA get a nice update, it will make me play in Southeast Asia more than ever!
Second, I think Nusantara should be colored red like Majapahit since it suits better historically.
Third, will there be any flavour regarding spread of Islam in Indonesia? Since it greatly shapes the way archipelago evolve until this day.
Thanks and keep up the good work!
 
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