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Is there any intention to have subsequent autonomy chance impact estate loyalty (E.g. If reduce autonomy (i.e take power from estate to central state) lowers loyalty, or reducing autonomy (i.e. handing over more control to local estate) improving loyalty)
 
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Good change to elective monarchy, now Poland will be playable.



It isn´t? :p

Guess I should have played the other starts more seriously :/ I´m not sure I´ll want to play Poland again soon... Not having to swallow the 20 Legitimacy and Estates changes will make a HUGE difference to playing as it.
 

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Whenever someone says "no disrespect" it's a sure sign their next comment is disrespectful.

You're understandably frustrated, but cursing Paradox like that is just juvenile.

actually, i think i got it covered by "no disrespected" and "bit sarcastic" parts. it's not like i want them to fight a tiger to recover a morale hit, i just want working product for my money.
anyway, once again, no disrespect.
 

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I think this are fantastic ideas. I would suggest to have the idea groups permanently increase the loyalty of certain estates to a new resting point. This would get you into the "bonus range" more often, speeding up loyality recovery and slowing decay. I think there are several ideas were a little buff would fit. e.g. (meant as additive bonuses to ideas)
  • Innovative / Resilient State: +5 loyalty to all estates (one of the weakest individual ideas in the game so far)
  • Religious / Church Attendance Duty: +5 clergy loyalty (Religious is quite strong already)
  • Aristocratic / Noble Resilience: +5 nobility loyalty
  • Plutocratic / Free Subjects: +5 burghers loyalty
I like the idea of adjusting the idea groups to fit in loyalty ideas, but it would almost certainly be decay/recovery speed rather than permanent floor raising.
 
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As such, we're going to change Loyatly to adopt a model more like prestige, where loyalty is a permanent value with no modifiers that decays slowly towards a middle point of 50, with the decay being faster the further from 50 it is.

So there's no more temporary modifiers from interactions? Want to make sure I understand this properly.

I like the idea of adjusting the idea groups to fit in loyalty ideas, but it would almost certainly be decay/recovery speed rather than permanent floor raising.

I believe wiz said that's what certain idea groups would do already in this thread.
 

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I like the idea of adjusting the idea groups to fit in loyalty ideas, but it would almost certainly be decay/recovery speed rather than permanent floor raising.
Actually, floor raises would be better, since decay would still mean that you go back to the floor eventually.
 

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I would also love to get some discount on development to provinces belonging to an estate. Say military development for nobility, diplomatic for burghers and admin development for clergy.
 
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@Wiz Will the Protestant/Reformer countries keeping colonial claims from Torsedillas bug be on the list to be fixed?

Also, Evangelical Majors pack with 1.15, right? ;)
 

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Sounds great! I've been holding off on buying Cossacks because of the flak it was getting on the forums, but I still think the changes have a lot of potential.
 
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This all looks cool, but it certainly doesn't help my confidence in Paradox's ability to deliver a quality experience at the launch of an expansion rather than a few months later.
 
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While the changes in estates and diplo feedback please me, it's the changes to elective monarchy that makes me the most happy. I've actually been thinking about the various things about it that bother me and was going to make a thread suggesting changes almost identical to these.

Down side is that I'm now going to push back my Polish Achievement run to after 1.15