Why? It does not make much sense to me. If I remember correctly, there are other countries ingame where their subjects start from an earlier date than gameplay start?
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EU4 - Dev Diary - January 7th 2016
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What happens if the AI has too many 80+ trust friends? Won't it jam the expansion?
Should the trust decrease every time a monarch changes, plus a bigger decrease if the dynasty changes? What about with republics? Or will trust remain the same with no decreasing point.
Should the trust decrease every time a monarch changes, plus a bigger decrease if the dynasty changes? What about with republics? Or will trust remain the same with no decreasing point.
Great! I love the changes in the Estates. Especialy the decay mechanics. It will improve the already interesting estates feature.
The impact of changing the earliest integration start date for Norway from 1494 to 1447 is... large.
Indeed it is. But before cossaks, that was the case. As Denmark, you only needed to aquire enough land - then you could integrate Norway.
Edit: Should this be seen as a nerf to Denmark then??
I think, that instead of just removing the estates with conquest - there should be a choice where you
1) get bonuses to loyality, lower coring cost or monarch points if you leave conquered estates as they are.
2) when removing newly conquered estates, reduce the loyality penalty to something neglible - or replace the penalty with some other malus - perhaps to manpower or unrest.
This would achieve a bit ot historic realism, and also have an extra decision - have total control over estate location, or have some extra bonuses.
1) get bonuses to loyality, lower coring cost or monarch points if you leave conquered estates as they are.
2) when removing newly conquered estates, reduce the loyality penalty to something neglible - or replace the penalty with some other malus - perhaps to manpower or unrest.
This would achieve a bit ot historic realism, and also have an extra decision - have total control over estate location, or have some extra bonuses.
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Hi Wiz!
Thanks for the DD, I really like the changes regarding most of all these. However there are some additions I would really like you to address. Especially trust.
Currently Trust changes only due to an action of either the AI or the player. However there are pretty much enough cases where I no longer can any diplomatic actions with a former rival, just because low trust.
I.e.: In the early game England and France are rivals, trying to conquer each others provinces which are in the mutual sphere of influence. However historically France got back her french territories from England by the end of the Hundred Years War. By the time of the late 19th century, they are best buddies for ever.
Currently I see no hope of increasing their trust just to make them consider any offers from me anymore. Simply I can't increase their trust towards my country without an alliance and honoring their wars. Please could you add some mechanics to increase their trust? I.e.: One time gifts of money, land, fundings provided or anything like that? Or simply make it like the estates loyalty, so it is slowly returning to 50 (lets say over a 100 years period from 0 to 50?). At least people especially in europe came to understand each others nation over the course of history, not just simply hate all their naighbours.
Oh... wait... they still do. Nevermind...
Thanks for the DD, I really like the changes regarding most of all these. However there are some additions I would really like you to address. Especially trust.
Currently Trust changes only due to an action of either the AI or the player. However there are pretty much enough cases where I no longer can any diplomatic actions with a former rival, just because low trust.
I.e.: In the early game England and France are rivals, trying to conquer each others provinces which are in the mutual sphere of influence. However historically France got back her french territories from England by the end of the Hundred Years War. By the time of the late 19th century, they are best buddies for ever.
Currently I see no hope of increasing their trust just to make them consider any offers from me anymore. Simply I can't increase their trust towards my country without an alliance and honoring their wars. Please could you add some mechanics to increase their trust? I.e.: One time gifts of money, land, fundings provided or anything like that? Or simply make it like the estates loyalty, so it is slowly returning to 50 (lets say over a 100 years period from 0 to 50?). At least people especially in europe came to understand each others nation over the course of history, not just simply hate all their naighbours.
Oh... wait... they still do. Nevermind...
Well they also made sweden's opinion off Denmark better at game start. And as far as I can tell in my games it delays the swedish onslaught for some years instead off the usual Dow for independence in the first year
While I do not agree that dev diaries are adds I will say that I am disappointed that building light ships from the army screan does not send them to protect trade with the rest of them. Which I believe was EXPLICITLY stated they would do. That may be really hard to code in but I'm still rattled.
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Aye, they made some nice changes to Scandinavian politics! The fact that the subjects of Denmark has another starting date is simply something I didn't see mentioned in the change log with the other changes, hence why I suspect it's a bugWell they also made sweden's opinion off Denmark better at game start. And as far as I can tell in my games it delays the swedish onslaught for some years instead off the usual Dow for independence in the first year
You guys just had to announce those Elective Monarchy changes 30 years into my new Poland game didn't you ?
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Good thing it can still be modded in; hopefully it isn't to hard to do. Still a bit sad to see it becoming less historically accurate due to casuals complaining.
Really good change. Also seems more realistic, since one would assume two alliance partners would sit together and try to alleviate such differences instead of just immediately get pissed at each other.
You could just disallow changing estates when at war; that would solve that potential exploit. Because having that 25% autonomy from conquered estate provinces sounded good.
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Wow that was fast!
Unfortunately I don't have access to the game tight now as my computers broken. But in some of Arumba's Albania or Iberia videos once the navy moves into another tile the binding between the existing navy and the underconstruction ships is broken. And when they are done being built they just sit in port.
The bug is visable in episode 75 and some others.
The same happens with armies by the way. If you move the army after ordering more regiments to be built then they won't merge with the army. So might be related to that.
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I can confirm this bug from when playing as England. Ships built into the navy only joins if if I haven't movd my fleet. If not, they simply gather at the place where I ordered them constructed in the first place.
Previously, Denmark could annex Holstein as soon as it had the required relations, and integrate Norway or Sweden as soon as it was large enough. Now, the date for which those subjects become subjects has changed to starting date. That Means that Denmark can't integrate untill around 1490
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I've told QA about this, it seems it's likely already fixed in 1.15 but we'll double check.
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If I recall correctly the dev diary said that a moving army wouldn't be able to get the new troops. It also said, again if I recall correctly, that trade protecting navies would have new light ships merge.
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All sounds good but this is interesting, perhaps you could slip in a Great Sejm event (chain even?) for Poland.
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