"EU4 Dev Clash #9 - "Happy Three Friends" - Tuesdays 15:00 CET

[Dnote]

I heard that Forzaa called you mean behind your back

You should totes declare war first thing next session!

I hear he actually called him a "swaggering, overbearing, tin-plated dictator with delusions of godhood."

or something to that effect.

Both seem pretty accurate to me

 

[Elinarii]

As others have already alluded to - when we said we were having bad RNG, we really meant it. We have had NO decisions go our way. AI alliances are against us, Castille got the PU we were confident would finally flip our way... and yes, we're with you guys, we're not thrilled with how it's gone for us either! Ceebie and I spent much of last session having to avoid Venetian lands and troops because we kept ended up on opposite sites of them in wars, thanks to the broken alliances mechanic that Dnote's team also suffered. It happened, we dealt with it the best we could

We were aware of what the Ottoman plans were for last session, and we have options available to us. It feels like there's a whole lot of up-in-the-air for quite a few teams at the moment, so at least we'll always have something to talk about during sessions...even if that something is "Damn it, that did NOT go well!" ^^

(Sidenote- props to Ceebie and Fido for doing so much to get lil' newbie EUIV player Ferrara up to speed. Teams mechanic is kicking ass, in that respect!)

 

[Bratyn]

there might be a episode of let our manpower recover + drilling

It only takes 10 years to recover full manpower (assuming no manpower recovery speed bonuses). So I doubt the Indians will have to use a full 30-year session for that...

 

[Bratyn]

And I bet they almost all start with Defensive or Quantity, that's the usual meta of Paradox dev clash.

Would have gone with my usual Defensive, but since I'm trying to work up professionalism as high as possible I wanted ample manpower to throw into the grinder.

 

[Trin Tragula]

Bahmanis kickstarted Renaissance iirc.

Given our alliance setup the Raichur Doab is like made for such things.

 

[Da9L]

 

[Da9L]

 

[Groogy]

REMEMBER THE CAUSE! REMEMBER THE DEAD! REMEMBER THE ORDER!

The Three Armies of Punjab, Kangra and Jaunpur before heading to defend the Integrity of the Eternal Order
Painted by unknown Jaunpuri Court Painter, the knowledge was lost in the Great Fire of the North
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[Groogy]

The Year Of Our Lord 1525

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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score

1. Ming 1040 (+1.63)
2. Ottomans 954 (+1.52)
3. France 868 (+1.35)
4. Mamluks 814 (+1.18)
5. Timurids 567 (+0.84)
6. Muscovy 405 (+0.79)
7. Castile 364 (+0.62)
8. England 357 (+0.11)
9. Poland 227 (+0.00)
10. Qara Qoyunlu 152 (+0.50)
11. Venice 82 (+0.39)
12. Bahmanis 63 (+0.00)
13. Austria 58 (+0.16)
14. Hamburg 51 (+0.00)
15. Genoa 29 (+0.00)
16. Lübeck 28 (+0.11)
17. Oldenburg 11 (+0.00)
18. Ligor 9 (+0.00)
19. Bremen 7 (+0.00)
20. Pomerania 5 (+0.00)

Current Team Score

1. Turkic Supremacy 954
2. Team Timmy 567
3. Team Johan 405
4. The Renaissance Ducat Party 141
5. Team Deccan 63
6. Team Keeping It Real 0
7. The Eternal Order 0

Development

1. Ming 1230
2. Ottomans 786
3. France 680
4. Mamluks 672
5. Timurids 611
6. Muscovy 566
7. Qara Qoyunlu 516
8. Bahmanis 431
9. England 428
10. Castile 383
11. Austria 369
12. Vijayanagar 363
13. Crimea 331
14. Korea 307
15. Ayutthaya 300
16. Jaunpur 289
17. Livonian Order 282
18. Yemen 257
19. Adal 251
20. Hosokawa 250

Income

1. Ming 105.25
2. Ottomans 87.24
3. France 63.30
4. Mamluks 57.17
5. Timurids 54.04
6. Bahmanis 46.24
7. Venice 43.64
8. England 37.53
9. Austria 35.82
10. Aragon 29.70
11. Muscovy 29.02
12. Qara Qoyunlu 26.94
13. Livonian Order 25.75
14. Vijayanagar 25.02
15. Crimea 24.45
16. Castile 24.43
17. Yemen 24.43
18. Hosokawa 23.03
19. Denmark 22.65
20. Pasai 21.33

Max. Manpower

1. Ottomans 107k
2. France 70,223
3. Mamluks 67,595
4. Ming 64,629
5. Timurids 50,252
6. Bahmanis 42,435
7. Brandenburg 41,078
8. Crimea 38,506
9. Adal 37,420
10. Vijayanagar 36,943
11. Muscovy 36,404
12. England 35,914
13. Castile 34,452
14. Livonian Order 33,049
15. Qara Qoyunlu 32,897
16. Aq Qoyunlu 32,694
17. Aragon 32,362
18. Austria 31,499
19. Ayutthaya 28,479
20. Bengal 26,313

Standing Army

1. Ottomans 111k
2. Ming 111k
3. Mamluks 82,000
4. France 68,000
5. Timurids 55,598
6. Bahmanis 46,740
7. Austria 44,000
8. Vijayanagar 39,402
9. Hosokawa 31,000
10. Adal 28,747
11. Crimea 27,818
12. Muscovy 27,791
13. Qara Qoyunlu 27,533
14. England 26,000
15. Punjab 25,264
16. Castile 25,000
17. Livonian Order 25,000
18. Ethiopia 24,000
19. Ferrara 21,000
20. Denmark 20,908

War Fleet

1. Ottomans 5/24
2. Ming 8/10
3. Venice 0/18
4. Denmark 0/11
5. Hosokawa 0/10
6. Tunis 0/9
7. England 6/0
8. Genoa 0/5
9. Naples 0/5
10. Mecklenburg 0/5
11. Mamluks 0/4
12. Timurids 0/4
13. Uesugi 0/4
14. Sweden 0/4
15. France 3/0
16. Vijayanagar 3/0
17. Adal 3/0
18. Kilwa 3/0
19. Pasai 3/0
20. Aragon 0/3

Trade Fleet

1. Bahmanis 22
2. Ayutthaya 22
3. Pasai 18
4. Morocco 15
5. France 14
6. Hamburg 14
7. Ottomans 13
8. Malacca 13
9. Sunda 13
10. Lübeck 13
11. Bremen 13
12. Vijayanagar 12
13. Adal 12
14. Ligor 12
15. Makassar 12
16. Venice 11
17. Pomerania 11
18. Ming 10
19. Kilwa 10
20. Provence 10

Technologies

1. Venice 30
2. Mamluks 30
3. Timurids 30
4. Austria 30
5. Aq Qoyunlu 30
6. France 29
7. Ottomans 29
8. Maldives 29
9. Sweden 29
10. Livonian Order 29
11. Ferrara 29
12. Denmark 28
13. Saxony 28
14. Bahmanis 27
15. Morocco 27
16. Malacca 27
17. Vijayanagar 27
18. Mecklenburg 27
19. Norway 27
20. Mainz 27

Great Power

1. Ming 732
2. Ottomans 666
3. France 576
4. Mamluks 575
5. Castile 552
6. Timurids 517
7. Muscovy 493
8. Qara Qoyunlu 437
   [~]Bahmanis 387
   [~]Austria 379
   [~]England 361
   [~]Vijayanagar 352
   [~]Jaunpur 316
   [~]Crimea 280
   [~]Denmark 255
   [~]Aragon 242
   [~]Livonian Order 238
   [~]Yemen 217
   [~]Adal 212
   [~]Hosokawa 191

 

[Bratyn]

Great Power

2. Ottomans 666

Ominous.

 

[Trin Tragula]

That was all for this session of ‘India at war’...

 

[Katzura]

I liked how Katz waited so long to finally pick up the pieces. Not very nice nor very brave but patient and clever. Traits of a true king/Shah.

Also I loved to see Trin and friends finally win. Brave and honest men down there.

I see that someone see the the wisdom in my ways, also had to focus early on to make sure khiva got land and didn't explode from rebels

 

[KaiserJohan]

@DDRJake Last week, you said it would be an excellent idea to change colour of the warflames next to the player names if it was a player vs. player war, but also that you would probably forget all about it. So this is a friendly reminder.

It is an excellent suggestion

Also next session gun' be gud. Real gud.

 

[Groogy]

Just saying, the timmies attacked before the bankruptcy and they had taken the form Mughals mission previous session, and it was even after they got their VC on Bahmanis. They always wanted exactly this.


We only attacked Vij because it was our only alternative left after they had allied everyone around us and we wanted the initiative. If we're going to die at least we're firing the first shot.


The Southern Indians are worthy of respect. The timurids are not. They wanted to feast on a carcass from the very start. Anything else they say is just pure lies. Also Katz, after being the one protecting you in the early games. I am disappointed, so disappointed. Shame.

 

[Groogy]

They were 1-2 loans away from bankruptcy for like a full hour. It was managed


And no on the whole timmy thing, that's true. He took that mission long time ago. I've been doing this a long time enough to know where to poke. We knew we hsd to defeat the south in this one war before Ming collapsed. The problem was he found a nice henchman to become a tributary for him.

 

[Katzura]

@Groogy I used to have the mission, but I abandoned it back then as I had other pressing matters, and then now I retook it just before we declared war


And if all other teams were to gang up on us I don't see this move to be something pivotal on surviving or dying

 

[Groogy]

I vaguely remember a certain Explo-Coptoman player using Threaten War on a certain Timmy player because he was bored. First session in a dev clash of said Timmy player, too.

But sure, let's go with "protecting".

That was actually just us trading provinces. I think one of us were at war and that was just the easiest way to do it? Something like that

 

[Dnote]

Khiva is under a player?
And what happened to Björn?

He's been struck down by the plague, we have a new team mate in Khiva to replace him, hence it's sudden growth.

 

[Chaingun]

Khiva might have a big font but it's absolutely tiny in any meaningful measure, basically still OPM strength.

 

[Da9L]

If anyone is planning to do a youtube parody of this war I would like to wish one of two things:
1. Spartans end, when they die, about loan and debase currency being our shields until we charged and died.
or
2. We should have acted. The cb's are already here.
The Thunder Dome told of their return.
The disconnect was merely a delay 'til the time after first sessions ended, when the sons of India would spill their own blood.
(the first one is probably better but this text fit pretty to the skyrim intro and I just wanted to write it somewhere)