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One could argue if he would have been able to defend against Bratyn in the next week,

He wouldn't have been able to. Despite his gains, the Turk army was still superior (as shown in that particular war). It would likely have been more difficult, but the conclusion would have been the same. Particularly because on top of our relative military superiority, the Indians would have joined regardless of who played Mamluks.

Also worth noticing that he probably doesn't snipe Steve.

Hot insider info: Steve is sniped a whole lot less than the streamers would have you believe. Most people only listen to it (and don't watch), and most of those have voice chat with alliance members going on top of that. Also, usually the players are smart enough to come to the same conclusions as the observers. And finally, there is a 20second delay in the stream, so when you see something happen within 20 seconds of the streamers saying something it is by definition impossible to have been a Steve Snipe.
 

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I think that's the intent yeah. We doing a bit of a check on who is back from Vacation so we don't miss anyone.
 

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We demand our weekly propaganda!!!! :D
Remember, we may be dangerous but they are worse!!! Do you want them to win?? And ruin all our your efforts!!!

Kasier Johan is too weak to post any propaganda at the moment.
 

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The Year Of Our Lord 1687
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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score
  1. Ottomans 13689 (+8.51)
  2. Bahmanis 8039 (+5.15)
  3. Maldives 7009 (+5.15)
  4. Aq Qoyunlu 6711 (+4.18)
  5. Ming 6501 (+3.94)
  6. Crimea 4988 (+5.34)
  7. Russia 4578 (+3.36)
  8. France 4316 (+0.98)
  9. Vijayanagar 4285 (+2.00)
  10. Prussia 4178 (+5.71)
  11. Great Britain 2744 (+0.00)
  12. Aragon 952 (+0.00)
  13. Austria 707 (+0.00)
  14. Venice 581 (+0.00)
  15. Brunei 133 (+1.18)
  16. Malacca 74 (+0.78)
  17. Urbino 23 (+0.00)
  18. Tuscany 15 (+0.00)
  19. Switzerland 9 (+0.00)
  20. Provence 5 (+0.00)
Current Team Score
  1. Turkic Supremacy 25390
  2. Team Deccan 19333
  3. Team Johan 8756
  4. The Renaissance Ducat Party 1305
  5. Team Keeping It Real 0
  6. Team Timmy 0
  7. The Eternal Order 0
Development
  1. Prussia 2740
  2. Ottomans 1812
  3. Ming 1602
  4. Bahmanis 1242
  5. Maldives 1074
  6. Russia 925
  7. Crimea 834
  8. Aq Qoyunlu 792
  9. Vijayanagar 792
  10. Egypt 754
  11. Mughals 700
  12. France 603
  13. Malacca 539
  14. Poland 519
  15. Adal 458
  16. Newer Tibet 391
  17. Yemen 381
  18. Tuscany 378
  19. Korea 330
  20. Uesugi 321
Income
  1. Ottomans 415.50
  2. Prussia 361.00
  3. Ming 213.19
  4. Bahmanis 179.00
  5. Maldives 127.81
  6. Russia 122.58
  7. Crimea 113.50
  8. Malacca 112.23
  9. Aragon 107.29
  10. Aq Qoyunlu 105.30
  11. Tuscany 83.13
  12. Poland 81.56
  13. Vijayanagar 81.40
  14. Brunei 75.89
  15. Egypt 70.56
  16. Mughals 65.69
  17. Switzerland 55.83
  18. Yemen 52.40
  19. Uesugi 46.66
  20. Adal 45.34
Max. Manpower
  1. Russia 233k
  2. Ottomans 227k
  3. Prussia 182k
  4. Ming 140k
  5. Bahmanis 131k
  6. Aq Qoyunlu 126k
  7. Crimea 120k
  8. Mughals 111k
  9. Vijayanagar 91,252
  10. Poland 86,206
  11. France 67,258
  12. Adal 63,438
  13. Egypt 59,650
  14. Tuscany 59,572
  15. Maldives 48,359
  16. Brunei 48,062
  17. Aragon 45,570
  18. Malacca 42,641
  19. Khiva 40,316
  20. Korchin 39,642
Standing Army
  1. Ottomans 342k
  2. Prussia 234k
  3. Russia 232k
  4. Bahmanis 155k
  5. Crimea 139k
  6. Ming 111k
  7. Mughals 94,777
  8. Aq Qoyunlu 90,000
  9. France 85,000
  10. Maldives 71,000
  11. Egypt 69,000
  12. Poland 68,000
  13. Malacca 56,000
  14. Vijayanagar 46,000
  15. Aragon 43,791
  16. Adal 42,000
  17. Tuscany 42,000
  18. Uesugi 40,000
  19. Brunei 37,000
  20. Korea 34,000
War Fleet
  1. Prussia 50/32
  2. Ottomans 40/30
  3. Venice 0/27
  4. Ming 10/12
  5. Maldives 14/4
  6. Korea 0/13
  7. Malacca 11/0
  8. Aragon 0/5
  9. France 4/0
  10. Vijayanagar 4/0
  11. Uesugi 0/3
  12. Mughals 0/1
  13. Great Britain 1/0
  14. Korchin 0/1
  15. Portugal 1/0
  16. Russia 0/0
  17. Bahmanis 0/0
  18. Crimea 0/0
  19. Aq Qoyunlu 0/0
  20. Egypt 0/0
Trade Fleet
  1. Prussia 142
  2. Ottomans 65
  3. Maldives 51
  4. Egypt 29
  5. Tuscany 28
  6. Brunei 20
  7. Yemen 20
  8. Malacca 18
  9. Switzerland 17
  10. Uesugi 16
  11. Bonoman 16
  12. Ming 15
  13. Fulo 15
  14. Provence 14
  15. Aragon 13
  16. Urbino 13
  17. Aq Qoyunlu 12
  18. Ottoman West Indies 12
  19. Brandenburg 11
  20. Korea 10
Technologies
  1. Egypt 68
  2. Ming 68
  3. Aragon 68
  4. Brandenburg 68
  5. France 68
  6. Ottomans 67
  7. Maldives 67
  8. Brunei 67
  9. Provence 67
  10. Great Britain 67
  11. Memmingen 67
  12. Newest Tibet 66
  13. Crimea 66
  14. Portugal 66
  15. Persia 66
  16. Oregon 66
  17. Prussia 65
  18. Tuscany 65
  19. Malacca 65
  20. Aq Qoyunlu 65
Great Power
  1. Prussia 3095
  2. Ottomans 1857
  3. Ming 1602
  4. Bahmanis 1247
  5. Maldives 1208
  6. France 948
  7. Russia 925
  8. Crimea 859
    [~]Vijayanagar 796
    [~]Aq Qoyunlu 792
    [~]Egypt 754
    [~]Malacca 539
    [~]Poland 519
    [~]Mughals 514
    [~]Adal 458
    [~]Yemen 381
    [~]Tuscany 378
    [~]Great Britain 343
    [~]Uesugi 321
    [~]Persia 301
 

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Also #BeepJohan
 

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The trouble with that idea, Dnote, is that if they annex all of European France, they acquire the CNs. And you really don't want to be attacking Prussian CNs.

The CNs have a high liberty desire, shouldn't be long before they revolt. And I think I have time to build up on the natives enough to attack them myself before France is completely gone.
 

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The CNs have a high liberty desire, shouldn't be long before they revolt. And I think I have time to build up on the natives enough to attack them myself before France is completely gone.

I dont think I get called in anyway if you figth my CNs and you are a New World country :)

EDIT: Also Newer Tibet is on top20 dev list! GO NEWER TIBET!
 

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Well, @Bratyn , this time I'm actually willing to believe your propaganda of the poor threatened Turks. ;) That Prussia is scary, especially when they get their trade in order. (collecting in Lübeck and not steering in Champagne? :D )

But honestly, if you really negotiated a three-session non-aggression pact with the Johans, it's kinda self-inflicted.

I was busy fighting I completely forgot to switch around where to collect/transfer trade as I took new land. Will be corrected next session :D
 

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Well, @Bratyn , this time I'm actually willing to believe your propaganda of the poor threatened Turks. ;) That Prussia is scary, especially when they get their trade in order. (collecting in Lübeck and not steering in Champagne? :D )
But honestly, if you really negotiated a three-session non-aggression pact with the Johans, it's kinda self-inflicted.

The alternative was to get ganged up on for another few sessions. When you had deals with people to contain the Johans, and then one flank dies to AI and the other flank backstabs you, your options become limited.

The one session of unified action against the Johans ended with one flank being dead, the other being traitors who could no longer be trusted to keep their word, and a Mamluks who could at any time backstab us, while Prussia itself avoided any real damage. We needed a truce before any further backstabs happened. We banked on being able to out-grow them. We lost that gamble.
 

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Prussia's Growth isn't scary at all, they are still "weak" ^^

You're right that their growth isn't scary, they surpassed scary several sessions ago, now they are terrifying.

Also, not my problem any more. Persia has decided the problems of the old world are not worth their effort.
 

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Havnt had the admin to state much yet outside London and Flanders. Once things calm down that + Quantity ideas + Trade will be taken care of.
I would rather give stuff to Brandenburg and Poland than client States though :)
The Ottomans have a beastly army. Once they finish their Ideas and enact the mil policies they will be terrifying. Not to mention Janissaries... :)
 
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