"EU4 Dev Clash #8 - 1444: A Historical Oddity" - Tuesdays 15:00CEST
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Updated version of my player map:
Not depicted:
- r_lazer, who no longer has any territory
- My impending doom
Not depicted:
- r_lazer, who no longer has any territory
- My impending doom
- Dec 14, 1999
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Insanely stupid of me. I had tried the same start lots of times.. No HRE, easy to take 5-6 provinces first 10 years. Only to switch from Catholic to Norse and forgetting christians hate pagans that take their culturegroup provinces.
The Order of St.John was formed in the late 9th century, as the Viking Raids from Scandinavia intensified across the North Sea. It was the defensive military force of the Dutch, Flemish & Walloons, as they fiercely fought against the Norse invaders coming from what is now known as Katzalonia. However, they could not stop the vikings from ravaging their homelands, not until a dramatic incident in January of 1066. The leader of the Order at that time, a man of half-norse ancestry, one Rolf von Ghent was trapped with the Order Army of less than a thousand fighting men between the Rhine and an invading force of Norseman three times as much. Rolf in his desperation thought of what the Father of his Mother had taught him about the Gods, back when he was a fosterling/hostage in Jylland, and gave the order. It was lucky that several of the remaining commander of the army was of similar background, and already partially in the Norse Faith, or else he would have never been able to pull it off.
There were seven large oaks, under whose shade he had placed his army, and from those oaks, a sacrifice to Odin, the Father of the Gods were made. Seven men who were devoutly catholic hanged from the limbs of the trees, together with the last seven fit horses they had in his army. A dash of the blood from this sacrifice were splashed on the banner of the Order, making the cross blood stained.
In some stroke of luck, or was it the will of the Gods, when the norse attacked the dutch, the shieldwall held, and the norse broke and died on the fields of the Seven Oaks.
A bloodstained cross upon the black tree of Odin, on a snowy field is now the banner of the Order of St.John, and the Order have slowly created a strong state out of the Low Lands..
The Order of St.John was formed in the late 9th century, as the Viking Raids from Scandinavia intensified across the North Sea. It was the defensive military force of the Dutch, Flemish & Walloons, as they fiercely fought against the Norse invaders coming from what is now known as Katzalonia. However, they could not stop the vikings from ravaging their homelands, not until a dramatic incident in January of 1066. The leader of the Order at that time, a man of half-norse ancestry, one Rolf von Ghent was trapped with the Order Army of less than a thousand fighting men between the Rhine and an invading force of Norseman three times as much. Rolf in his desperation thought of what the Father of his Mother had taught him about the Gods, back when he was a fosterling/hostage in Jylland, and gave the order. It was lucky that several of the remaining commander of the army was of similar background, and already partially in the Norse Faith, or else he would have never been able to pull it off.
There were seven large oaks, under whose shade he had placed his army, and from those oaks, a sacrifice to Odin, the Father of the Gods were made. Seven men who were devoutly catholic hanged from the limbs of the trees, together with the last seven fit horses they had in his army. A dash of the blood from this sacrifice were splashed on the banner of the Order, making the cross blood stained.
In some stroke of luck, or was it the will of the Gods, when the norse attacked the dutch, the shieldwall held, and the norse broke and died on the fields of the Seven Oaks.
A bloodstained cross upon the black tree of Odin, on a snowy field is now the banner of the Order of St.John, and the Order have slowly created a strong state out of the Low Lands..
Allll Hail Brrritannia!
Ah well. Katz is in the region, and we all know how much he contributed to challenging StarNaN's might last session
I was his ally, I wanted him strong, why would I have stopped him then?
Unfortunately Dommerik Cuparius died only 2 months after disinheriting his heir, Dommererik Cuparius, and so the Cuparius dynasty has now come to a close.
For everyone more interested in which ideas we picked:
Imperium Cupariorum Ideas
Traditions:
Morale 15%
Trade Efficiency 10%
Ambitions:
Yearly Army Tradition +1
Ideas:
- Infantry Combat Ability +10%
Barrel-chested Warriors
The life of a cooper is physically demanding and grows upper-body strength. By only recruiting men to the army with years of experience in this trade we can ensure that we will never find ourselves over the barrel in a military conflict.
- Construction Cost -10%
No Empty Barrels
Empty barrels make the most noise. By instead hiring overseers who actually know their business we can improve the cost efficiency of construction work. This makes it easier to pay cash on the barrelhead for our new buildings.
- Development Cost -10%
Cooper-based Economy
Coopering is the profession of choice for our population. We must always be ready to stimulate this sector so that no-one will have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to get by.
- Artillery Combat Ability +10%
High Caliber Barrels
Increasing the standard size of our artillery means that our enemies will find it exceedingly hard not to stare down the barrel. This makes hitting them all the more simple.
- Goods Produced +15%
Barrels Aplenty
The abundance of storage material created by our primary industry has the added benefit that all goods can easily be stored and transported lock, stock, and barrel.
- Discipline +7,5%
The Kuiper Belt
An officer's hard leather belt works wonders to whip any lack of discipline out of the men. Our invention, dubbed 'Cooper Belt' in the local language, is not liked by our soldiers, but it does ensure that our armies barrel on from victory to victory.
- Naval Engagement Range +20%
Barrels on All the Seas
Bringing our barrels far and wide has taught us a thing or two about piloting a ship. With this superior seamanship, we can always obtain the superior position in an engagement. This makes any naval gunfight about as hard as shooting fish in a barrel.
For everyone more interested in which ideas we picked:
Imperium Cupariorum Ideas
Traditions:
Morale 15%
Trade Efficiency 10%
Ambitions:
Yearly Army Tradition +1
Ideas:
- Infantry Combat Ability +10%
Barrel-chested Warriors
The life of a cooper is physically demanding and grows upper-body strength. By only recruiting men to the army with years of experience in this trade we can ensure that we will never find ourselves over the barrel in a military conflict.
- Construction Cost -10%
No Empty Barrels
Empty barrels make the most noise. By instead hiring overseers who actually know their business we can improve the cost efficiency of construction work. This makes it easier to pay cash on the barrelhead for our new buildings.
- Development Cost -10%
Cooper-based Economy
Coopering is the profession of choice for our population. We must always be ready to stimulate this sector so that no-one will have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to get by.
- Artillery Combat Ability +10%
High Caliber Barrels
Increasing the standard size of our artillery means that our enemies will find it exceedingly hard not to stare down the barrel. This makes hitting them all the more simple.
- Goods Produced +15%
Barrels Aplenty
The abundance of storage material created by our primary industry has the added benefit that all goods can easily be stored and transported lock, stock, and barrel.
- Discipline +7,5%
The Kuiper Belt
An officer's hard leather belt works wonders to whip any lack of discipline out of the men. Our invention, dubbed 'Cooper Belt' in the local language, is not liked by our soldiers, but it does ensure that our armies barrel on from victory to victory.
- Naval Engagement Range +20%
Barrels on All the Seas
Bringing our barrels far and wide has taught us a thing or two about piloting a ship. With this superior seamanship, we can always obtain the superior position in an engagement. This makes any naval gunfight about as hard as shooting fish in a barrel.
Well, this particular session, I aim to have a BLAST.
And if worst comes to worst, go out with a BOOM.
(Can someone guess what my ideas are centered around?)
Also, I play primarily for fun and to create a "good show" of some sort, to win is tertiary.
And if worst comes to worst, go out with a BOOM.
(Can someone guess what my ideas are centered around?)
Also, I play primarily for fun and to create a "good show" of some sort, to win is tertiary.
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Interesting to get a succinct perspective on everyone and their possible futures. Whilst playing we're generally quite focused on our own tasks and immediate area, so what has been happening in the East has only been something I've been vaguely aware of until after the session ended. As for my actual long term plans, I think it's fair to say that I'm keeping my options open. Last session I went into it following Groogy's lead and whilst it taught me a lot, it did narrow my options significantly by the time the AI was gone, I was never going to be more than a bit part player because of how things panned out. This time, I'd like be flexible enough that I can contribute more throughout the whole campaign (even if it means getting wiped out and starting again somewhere else).
I will only dare to say: based on what I saw in the last two sessions only few players have shown that they actually have the ambition to actively pursue victory (StarNaN, Da9l, Wiz, Bratyn, maybe Johan), some seem in it mainly for fun (groogy, LetterZ), some pursue a particular non-victory goal (esp. Fido), while most jseem to be happy to grow in the shadow of the giants...
That being said: I hope to be surprised and proven wrong...
Last campaign my only intention was to survive my first dev mp through to the end, which I did, even though I missed the last two sessions for it. This time around, I see no reason not to go all out and aim for a trophy, or at the very least have an impact on where the trophies end up. And whilst some of the players may not be trophy hunters, they can all influence how the leaderboard ends up, no one is completely passive (though some of them may not realize when is the time to strike until it's too late).
But the great founder of the dynasty said "surely not, for they have all pledged not to attack us in the coming decades, and they are men of their word."
And throughout much the founder's life, this held true. Peace reigned, save for some skirmishes against lesser powers.
But all things come to an end. After 22 years of rule, an attack came. We were beset from the south and east by a combined force thrice the size of our own, yet we did not despair.
The founder could not handle these broken promises, and suffered a stroke a mere five wars after the hostilities began.
But we had prepared for war. We had made the very mountains themselves our fortress, so that any enemy would have to come at us at a place of our choosing, and any battle would be joined only at a time of our choosing. We had no ally but the mountains, but what an ally they were.
We fought the invaders again and again, outnumbered every time. Due to sheer numbers, each battle ended in our withdrawal, yet every time we recovered, and attacked once more.
Half a dozen times we tried to break their sieges, and half a dozen times we were forced to retreat.
The situation is still bleak. We are still outnumbered 3 to 2, and they have the potential to raise yet more.
Yet we can say this.
We. Made. Them. Bleed.
As we look at the battlefields of Tirol and Kärntern, they are littered with corpses. Many of them wear our blue livery, yet still more wear the red, black, and green of the Southerners.
None may truly know how many men have died these past forty months, yet estimates say that while 50 000 Canapé lives have been lost, near 90 000 Southerners are gone.
The Army of Copper is no more; it is brought down to a few thousand men.
The Free army is similarly reduced, now amounting to a mere nine thousand.
Only the Balkanite army still stands strong, yet it too has exausted its reserves on the mountains.
We've bled. So have they.
As we look down from the mountains we can truly say: we would have made the founder proud.
All in all, I had a decent first session. My only fear was that Pegu was going to be an annoying thorn in my side, considering their starting size, but they were a lot easier to deal with than I thought they would be. Cleaning up the rest of them shouldn't be very difficult.
Yeah, I went to look it up just after the stream, as I suspected something like that was the case. Cheers for pointing it out though.
Yeah, I went to look it up just after the stream, as I suspected something like that was the case. Cheers for pointing it out though.
The Tragulian people suffer under the rule of foreign tyrants. While our neighbors joined forces to partition our lands it seems the duplicity did not end there.
With horror we looked on as the former allies started fighting each other over the spoils of their conquests, and when the ruthenian people themselves rose against their masters we did not hesitate to join to deal the killing blow to the Rurikan despot.
As this age draws to and end our people remain divided and subdued but our state remains strong and determined to survive.
With horror we looked on as the former allies started fighting each other over the spoils of their conquests, and when the ruthenian people themselves rose against their masters we did not hesitate to join to deal the killing blow to the Rurikan despot.
As this age draws to and end our people remain divided and subdued but our state remains strong and determined to survive.
It is now definitely Pygia, we have a reputation to maintain for mispronouncing things.
We did the March thing because I wanted to prove that it was too strong. I got a WAD a while back and I said I would use it the next campaign(current one). Had to sacrifice about 50 development for it and me and Imse shared AE, which meant we couldn't expand as fast as other players.
It looks like we might have achieved what we wanted, just sad I never got to use my troops in a real war where I wasn't just besieging forts.
Had to sacrifice about 50 development for it and me and Imse shared AE, which meant we couldn't expand as fast as other players.It looks like we might have achieved what we wanted, just sad I never got to use my troops in a real war where I wasn't just besieging forts.
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Disappointed that I don't have a dedicated tactics segment
Other than that; I love them! Keep them coming P.S. I don't think 'cordial' means what you think it means...
I like reading what others think is going to happen, and to see their take on what our best courses of action are. Yes, sometimes you are off the mark, but you have no idea what is being said/planned amongst the devs in the background, so that is entirely logical. Other times, it is quite useful to see things from a different perspective
I appreciate the work you put into them, keep it up!
Mine:
Traditions: 10% morale, -0.05 monthly war exhaustion
- +10% goods produced
- +10% infantry combat ability
- +7.5% discipline
- +20% tax
- +15% land force limit
- +5% administrative efficiency
- -20% regiment costs
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