"EU4 Dev Clash #8 - 1444: A Historical Oddity" - Tuesdays 15:00CEST

[Da9L]

Nuff said. All hail Britannia!

 

[Dnote]

Somehow I do fear that Dnote needs are lot of diplomacy... D9 and Johan are his neighbours.

It'll be fine.. worse case scenario I die, reroll somewhere else and win a trophy like Bratyn did.

 

[Bratyn]

It'll be fine.. worse case scenario I die, reroll somewhere else and win a trophy like Bratyn did.

The true key to success is doing it twice.

 

[Groogy]

@Groogy it might be too much of a give away at this stage but could you show us one of your planning spreadsheets? Found the last one I saw interesting.

Just finished my ideas, I have some build in mind but need to set up the spreadsheet first which is going to take a while.

 

[Meneth]

How can you finalise the ideas already when you don't know how the random development will be?

Decide on the ideas and know that that means he can take x development.
He can then make minor adjustments once the exact development distribution is known.

 

[Bratyn]

Twice is too meta right now, thrice is where its at.

That's why I picked brand-new custom ideas like "-50% hostile core creation cost" and "Neighbours generate automatic CB".

 

[Dnote]

You do need to take whole areas though. And while quite unlikely it is possible that you start with two adjacent areas which together have around 150 to 200 dev and all the other areas in your region are piss poor. In that case you'd either have to reevaluate your ideas quite significantly or take the piss poor areas and hope no behemoth spawns with those juicy areas.

This is a problem we all face, but will limit the min/max factor as there is a clear time constraint once we start.

 

[Meneth]

You do need to take whole areas though. And while quite unlikely it is possible that you start with two adjacent areas which together have around 150 to 200 dev and all the other areas in your region are piss poor. In that case you'd either have to reevaluate your ideas quite significantly or take the piss poor areas and hope no behemoth spawns with those juicy areas.

You can have a single unfinished area, so that generally lets you hit your point target pretty closely.

 

[Groogy]

I'll give a cookie to anyone that can translate my national ideas when the casters look over them. They are written in the native language of my people.

 

[Dnote]

I'll give a cookie to anyone that can translate my national ideas when the casters look over them. They are written in the native language of my people.

I'm sure we'll have a few Danish people watching the stream.

 

[Meneth]

I know I will be cheering for Trin Tragula.

Also will the point limit be at 200?

Yep.

 

[Dnote]

Jan Mayenese culture, Mayan faith. Will anyone be crazy enough for that, I wonder? Preferably with a Mainz start?

On a more serious note - I hope the commentators will be given a good amount of time to go through the map and nation picks before the game is unpaused. Given the randomized nature of everything, us viewers will need some time to absorb the madness before action commences.

I would expect this will give them plenty to talk about in-between the player wars over a longer period of time. I can't imagine them getting through everything in the first two hours.

 

[Trin Tragula]

. . . why do I get the feeling that the language isn't even human?

Hey!
We're humans

 

[Bratyn]

That's a pickable NI? (I never played with custom nations in case that wasn't clear.)

It was a joke But if they existed they would make for a very short game for the player...

 

[BjornB]

 

[Trin Tragula]

Trin Tragula did not deserve such an end!

I'm not dead yet

 

[Groogy]

The Year of Our Lord And Saviour 1470

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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score

1. Phrygia 159 (+0.41)
2. Millhaven 159 (+0.73)
3. Katzalonia 136 (+0.54)
4. Sherden 118 (+0.44)
5. Aquitaine 110 (+0.22)
6. Patiala 94 (+0.00)
7. Palembang 89 (+0.51)
8. Canapés 83 (+0.25)
9. Imperium Cupariorum 82 (+0.48)
10. Gornja Siga 62 (+0.00)
11. Ravensburg 49 (+0.28)
12. Neva-Luki 43 (+0.93)
13. Vasalia 41 (+0.00)
14. Aztec 34 (+0.00)
15. Order of St.John 13 (+0.00)
16. Great Tragulia 8 (+0.00)
17. Crete 5 (+0.00)
18. Britannia 3 (+0.45)
19. Vijayanagar 2 (+0.00)
20. Cocomes 1 (+0.00)

Development

1. Aquitaine 285
2. Sherden 277
3. Imperium Cupariorum 259
4. Aztec 242
5. Neva-Luki 239
6. Palembang 234
7. Millhaven 222
8. Katzalonia 222
9. Ravensburg 222
10. Iridescent Horde 216
11. Canapés 215
12. Patiala 207
13. Britannia 206
14. Phrygia 204
15. Vandalia 196
16. Vasalia 195
17. Gornja Siga 192
18. Chickasaw 187
19. Preussen 187
20. Pacajes 160

Income

1. Imperium Cupariorum 19.96
2. Palembang 19.23
3. Uzbek 19.14
4. Sherden 18.21
5. Millhaven 17.65
6. Gornja Siga 17.38
7. Katzalonia 16.96
8. Britannia 16.22
9. Preussen 15.89
10. Phrygia 15.38
11. Canapés 15.13
12. Aztec 14.41
13. Order of St.John 14.25
14. Neva-Luki 14.22
15. Aquitaine 13.87
16. Ravensburg 12.89
17. Patiala 12.66
18. Chickasaw 11.89
19. Multan 11.38
20. Marehan 11.25

Max. Manpower

1. Neva-Luki 24,610
2. Imperium Cupariorum 24,000
3. Katzalonia 23,155
4. Aztec 22,727
5. Sherden 22,035
6. Roman Empire 21,576
7. Cologne 21,506
8. Ravensburg 21,377
9. Preussen 21,095
10. Millhaven 20,580
11. Aquitaine 20,165
12. Phrygia 20,106
13. Patiala 20,036
14. Vasalia 19,981
15. Jenné 19,498
16. Palembang 19,371
17. Britannia 19,319
18. Gornja Siga 19,063
19. Liege 19,018
20. Multan 18,803

Standing Army

1. Palembang 26,000
2. Canapés 25,465
3. Ravensburg 25,000
4. Phrygia 24,000
5. Aztec 23,000
6. Nkore 23,000
7. Sherden 22,233
8. Katzalonia 21,267
9. Britannia 20,000
10. Baglana 20,000
11. Preussen 19,869
12. Patiala 18,285
13. Iridescent Horde 18,000
14. Multan 17,000
15. Vandalia 17,000
16. Millhaven 16,000
17. Aquitaine 16,000
18. Chickasaw 16,000
19. North Kuba-Luba 16,000
20. Order of St.John 16,000

War Fleet

1. Sherden 0/15
2. Phrygia 0/10
3. Vandalia 0/10
4. Imperium Cupariorum 0/10
5. Palembang 0/7
6. Alexandria 0/7
7. Sweden 0/7
8. Katzalonia 6/0
9. Finland 0/6
10. Preussen 0/5
11. Iridescent Horde 0/5
12. Millhaven 0/5
13. Order of St.John 5/0
14. Neva-Luki 0/5
15. Krakow 0/5
16. Qara Qoyunlu 0/5
17. Wu 0/5
18. Wallachia 0/5
19. Castile 0/5
20. Uzbek 4/0

Trade Fleet

1. Imperium Cupariorum 15
2. Tlapanec 15
3. Uzbek 11
4. Ravensburg 11
5. Uesugi 11
6. Nassau 11
7. Hojo 11
8. Katzalonia 10
9. Pacajes 10
10. Otomo 10
11. Cajamarca 10
12. Memmingen 9
13. Italy 9
14. Aachen 8
15. Toulouse 8
16. Order of St.John 7
17. Karelia 7
18. Ashikaga 7
19. Guarani 6
20. Multan 6

Technologies

1. Order of St.John 18
2. Britannia 18
3. Preussen 18
4. Memmingen 17
5. Ashikaga 17
6. Millhaven 17
7. Meath 17
8. Teutonic Order 17
9. Welayta 17
10. North Kuba-Luba 17
11. Maravi 17
12. Albania 17
13. Tlapanec 16
14. Uzbek 16
15. Nassau 16
16. Karelia 16
17. Ouchi 16
18. Ceylon 16
19. Krakow 16
20. Sind 16

Great Power

1. Millhaven 265
2. Imperium Cupariorum 259
3. Aquitaine 241
4. Sherden 233
5. Britannia 206
6. Neva-Luki 200
7. Palembang 196
8. Phrygia 193
   [~]Ravensburg 186
   [~]Katzalonia 186
   [~]Iridescent Horde 181
   [~]Canapés 180
   [~]Vandalia 174
   [~]Patiala 173
   [~]Vasalia 166
   [~]Gornja Siga 161
   [~]Chickasaw 157
   [~]Arabia 146
   [~]Aztec 143
   [~]Pacajes 134

 

[Katzura]

I feel so good having the first session in forever with no player war on my own part, I think only me and @Da9L were the only people that did not fight against another player today.

Anyhow the Catalan people of the Katzalan nation of Katzalonia feel confident in the future

 

[Dnote]

Well, that didn't really go how I imagined it might.

First off, thank you Johan for the coalition war, I really should pay more attention to what the call to arms text is saying. As we'd planned to deal with the northern French nations I just assumed it was a war against them, not a coalition with all of the AI nations around both of us. I ended up losing my AI allies because of that war, even though I got out it without losing anything more than ducats.

Then there was Friduric, now I had no initial plans to attack him, he was after all a larger nation and we were discussing not fighting each other even though he rivaled me. Turns out that the diplomacy meant little, as he pounced on me shortly after the coalition war fired, leaving me in three wars with half my army destroyed. Luckily there had been some pre-game diplomacy with Bratyn, so I had an ally I hadn't actually allied yet, to call in and help. Plus Carlberg wanted to knock Friduric down a bit too, no one likes a big neighbor.

In the end, it worked out all right, seven loans, five percent corruption, zero manpower and down to 14,000 troops, was a small price to pay to win that war.

I obviously have plans for next session, Johan allying Katsina was surprising, but there are other AI to beat on still, plus some other things. I don't imagine my position will last though, there are finite routes of expansion for me before water gets in the way and I didn't take any ideas to help with having a strong navy. So I think others will grow much stronger than me very soon.

Absolutely did not see the Imse/Starnan deal coming though, was totally naive to that maneuver and really curious to see how that plays out. Here I was hoping for a strong German nation to act as a buffer against the Eastern players, but that doesn't look like it will happen now they are in cahoots.

 

[Katzura]

Johan, Servancour, TheLetterZ, AlexIvan, BjornB and Groogy didn't fight any human players either, best as I could tell. It's all quiet there on the periphery of the known world, at least until the core nations are done munching each other up - which shouldn't take more than a session or two at this rate.

Also - Katsina down in the French region - will you protect them against Aquetaine? You're fond of pet states.

Katsina needs to disappear, only one Kat nation may exist. I will for now leave their fate to the people in the region, but if they leave the abomination alive for too long I might have to intervene