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StarNaN

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We did the March thing because I wanted to prove that it was too strong. I got a WAD a while back and I said I would use it the next campaign(current one). :) Had to sacrifice about 50 development for it and me and Imse shared AE, which meant we couldn't expand as fast as other players.

It looks like we might have achieved what we wanted, just sad I never got to use my troops in a real war where I wasn't just besieging forts.
 

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Hopefully this will cause some bitter exchanges between the devs, in my effort to stir chaos.

It's in Da9L interest to pay attention to European affairs to ensure the salt flows, and the salt trade isn't hindered.

Disappointed that I don't have a dedicated tactics segment :( Other than that; I love them! Keep them coming :)

P.S. I don't think 'cordial' means what you think it means...
 

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Disappointed that I don't have a dedicated tactics segment :( Other than that; I love them! Keep them coming :)

P.S. I don't think 'cordial' means what you think it means...

Yeah sorry, wasn't that i was ignoring certain people, just kinda didn't have the room to squeeze everything in there and keep it kinda compact, so kinda tried to reference certain people in overlapping area of interest/segments,

i actually missed out Johan almost completely, but then with johans chest full of trophies, i thought it would almost be like reciting the art of war back to sun tzu. Also it's kinda hard to accurately theorise his intentions. I have a feeling he wants to throwdown with Da9L, although haven't seen or can't remember his ideas. But his got room to expand east, i'm not sure if he will grab the normandy coast if looking to build a naval force and help Katz.

Also missed out Meneth, which is a shame, since he fought so well, and provides these updated maps for me to play backseat armchair general. He fought bravely, and his postioning was always bad unless he could have managed to strike up a good alliance, but obviously that wasn't to be the case.

For you the cooper barrelled chested Bratyn, i was kinda surprised you jumped into a 3 way trilateral attack on Meneth, not sure how much this was premeditated, since i actually though the Balkan Powers could pose somewhat of a threat to yourself, and although Meneth gave more then a good account of himself, i can see the pragmatism, since if Meneth is eatern up by you or Gnivom/Ihki, his lands would have eventually have been lost to StarNaN or more likely Imse. I think reflecting back on it, it could have actually been a very capable ally, but then your expansion would have been limited, so i guess it wasn't to be. I'm hoping you have a good thing going on with Dnote, since i'm not sure how cordial the balkan powers are to you, but i'd say Dnote could probably make a decent ally given his neighbour threat level has dimished somewhat after you both smited Friduric. Got you pegged has one of the good guys after the aiding of Dnote, which made the raping of meneth more forgiveable, perhaps has a necessary evil to strengthren yourself against the powder keg called europe.

Yeah did misuse cordial somewhat, kinda felt i had at the time too, i guess indifferent or hostile would have sufficed, thanks for taking the time to read through it, obviously like i said, i'm just armchairing the armchair generals. Obviously just my take, i bet most of you are reading it thinking i'm way of the mark, with whatever foul deeds you devs are scheming up. It's just my little bit of commentary to record the war crimes committed by the devs, afterall there doesn't seem to be much gentlemanly declarations of war or settiing up of redlines. So by referencing StarNaN & Imse has the Central Powers is more a warning to other European players that some deterrent will need to be enforced, should hopefully create some more alliance blocks in europe.

Missed out Trin, rooting for him, but i'd rather not jinx him any further, although it would be in the Balkan Powers interest to support him to slow down the Central Powers march south. I just don't see Gnivom and Ihki getting along unless Ihki is content. while on the other hand, not sure how long your mutual agreement will last with the Balkan Powers, unless you offer to protect or support Ihki interest has a check to Gnivom not to get to ambitious.

On Trin, he should try to resettle himself between Dnote & Meneth, his idea group is worth saving. See if Meneth will give Military Access or help get Trin into a war with the ai there so he can cut himself out a new home.
 
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Obviously just my take, i bet most of you are reading it thinking i'm way of the mark, with whatever foul deeds you devs are scheming up. It's just my little bit of commentary to record the war crimes committed by the devs, afterall there doesn't seem to be much gentlemanly declarations of war or settiing up of redlines. So by referencing StarNaN & Imse has the Central Powers is more a warning to other European players that some deterrent will need to be enforced, should hopefully create some more alliance blocks in europe.

I like reading what others think is going to happen, and to see their take on what our best courses of action are. Yes, sometimes you are off the mark, but you have no idea what is being said/planned amongst the devs in the background, so that is entirely logical. Other times, it is quite useful to see things from a different perspective :)

I appreciate the work you put into them, keep it up!
 

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Once they're all revealed (or the players agree) can we get a list of all the idea groups posted?
Mine:

Traditions: 10% morale, -0.05 monthly war exhaustion
  1. +10% goods produced
  2. +10% infantry combat ability
  3. +7.5% discipline
  4. +20% tax
  5. +15% land force limit
  6. +5% administrative efficiency
  7. -20% regiment costs
Ambition: +15 max absolutism.
 

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In future, would you consider adding the CK2 religions into the pool of religions for custom nations?

Some of the strategic depth could be interesting, Bogomilist looks like it could be very fun to play as.
 

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I see what you did there. Making a good play for top position in the pun-off vs @Katzura !

Toucan play that game, but as you know, early katz gets the bird ;)
But we will do it classy, I'm an Aristokat after all, gotta stay kattzy.
 

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Mine:

Traditions: 10% morale, -0.05 monthly war exhaustion
  1. +10% goods produced
  2. +10% infantry combat ability
  3. +7.5% discipline
  4. +20% tax
  5. +15% land force limit
  6. +5% administrative efficiency
  7. -20% regiment costs
Ambition: +15 max absolutism.
Now that's an idea set that almost rivals that of majors.
 

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Toucan play that game, but as you know, early katz gets the bird ;)
But we will do it classy, I'm an Aristokat after all, gotta stay kattzy.

Don't worry, I've got bucketloads more where those came from. But let's take it easy lest we blow the lid clean off and reduce this thread to just a barrel of laughs...
 
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