well if you occupy them they will still lose points... temporarly at least , but if it's the end of the game you don't need to own that province either
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EU4 Dev Clash #12 - Emperor - Wednesdays 15:00 CET
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Erghk. Learning that the Vermonter invasion of the Carribean happened because the (temporary) Andalusian player didn't know about the colonial nation (and so didn't know to enforce peace on Vermont) leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. I feel like there should be a notification icon for "One of your colonial subjects is under attack!". Granted there's a notification for the declaration itself, but those can be easy to miss, especially in multiplayer.
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IIRC, the players in Delhi and Nepal did not die early; they just joined the game later than the others, in like session 3. Delhi and Vijayanagar were their first countries.
I think it was also already mentioned by Johan that in the session were Delhi and Nepal joined, two other (new?) players would normally have been placed in India, but they could not make it (Bengal and Malwa).
I agree that they had an advantage by getting their victory cards on AI, but I do not think they should be 'punished' scorewise. It is not their fault that the two other players could not make it.
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Also needs to happen outside of Europe. The European hugbox with the revolution target would be disgusting.
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Johan's mic cuts out way too often and makes for a few awkward moments in the stream. I had the same issue as him though while I used Discord with my friends, we started using Skype after that and it went way smoother. Maybe consider trying that out?
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Assuming that it is slow/difficult enough for someone outside Europe to trigger it, I see Commonwealth as by far the most likely revolution target if the French Paradox wants it. Otherwise maybe Brunswick or Saxony. It would probably be too risky for any of the Italians to go for it (since the Germans would just intervene unless they had a rest of the world coalition behind them).
To be fair, at least there would be a theoretical possibility for them to lose it. If Japan gets it, the situation will most likely be like Naval Hegemon and never be seriously contested due to remoteness.
Nepal would also be an interesting revolutionary target. Republics synergize greatly with Hinduism and it would make the already powerful Nepali armies even stronger.
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Finally caught the VOD, and man was that session fun to watch. So much of it was a really big surprise. We really didnt know about those tensions coming in, it was on a totally different front, the slow and surprising escalations, etc.
Do think the "calling in on allies" thing doesnt seem to work as well as people expect given how it escalates the war and can bring in unwanted countries. It's happened multiple times now.
I remember Bahmanis a while back. But yeah, I'm not bothered about the situation with Asia.
They clearly figured out they need to first fix StarNAN's mandate problem, and as Jake pointed out end-game when people would be more aware of their score and willing to strip victory cards is coming soon.
The diplomacy mightve been different had Timurids, Delhi, and Nepal all been placed in at once, but eh, whatever.
Do think the "calling in on allies" thing doesnt seem to work as well as people expect given how it escalates the war and can bring in unwanted countries. It's happened multiple times now.
I remember Bahmanis a while back. But yeah, I'm not bothered about the situation with Asia.
They clearly figured out they need to first fix StarNAN's mandate problem, and as Jake pointed out end-game when people would be more aware of their score and willing to strip victory cards is coming soon.
The diplomacy mightve been different had Timurids, Delhi, and Nepal all been placed in at once, but eh, whatever.
Very hyped for the next session. Will Brazil become economic hegemon? Will a revolution spawn? World War 8 or 9?
Question is Commonwealth or Prussia. Which side Europe will choose. Will Delhi will defend their score. Japan will take Italy,
As Jake has already pointed out, what the heck is Groogy up to? He seems to play a very introverted Dev Clash this time, only performing mad experiments on his vassals.
Can animists be force converted in peace? If so then you could always have a fake war where he gets force converted.
iirc thats the only way to become nahuatl left. Breaking to inti/mayan/nahuatl rebels doesnt convert you even if they make up 100% of your population. The only other way (except force conversion) is to own cholula as pagan before the temple there gets destroyed but if i am not mistaken mexico owns that province. So by now the temple should have been destroyed.
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