EU4 Dev Clash #10 - Rule Britannia - Tuesdays 15:00 CET

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Knocking GB down below Hungary seems almost impossible, if we also assume that Hungary will die horribly when Austria and Byzantium finally go to war.

Why'd we assume that? Don't know who the winning side will end up being, but Hungary could choose it, or even determine it. GB is powerless on land, has neither current nor potential meaningful allies. My bet is it'll control none of its victory cards by 1821.
 

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Sooo... has the last ship sailed to South America yet? Did I miss it?

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I don't even know who is the good guy anymore. If Starnan didn't backstab the western alliance and instead waited a bit longer, I could have presumed he was, but now... And Kaiser is too much a non-underdog for me to root for him. Johan, perhaps, or Dnote? :eek:

It's a shame. I like Sidestep, but I think his luck might have run out, with Bohemia surely wanting his land. Unless he suddenly joins the HRE (if he can) and betrays his benefactor, I predict a painful death for his honorable campaing.

Otherwise, Mike last stand in Kilwa was truly commendable and Rageair thriving in South America is good to watch.

So, the power blocks seem firmly established : The Western ______, the Sea Powers, the H RE, Byzantium and the Eastern Powers. And Sweden, Kilwa, Mali. I think I didn't forget anyone. Bratyn is probably scheming in his own place and the "Eastern Powers" might not even be that united, though.
 

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I don't even know who is the good guy anymore. If Starnan didn't backstab the western alliance and instead waited a bit longer, I could have presumed he was, but now... And Kaiser is too much a non-underdog for me to root for him. Johan, perhaps, or Dnote? :eek:

I can't win, but I'm absolutely the good guy this time, regardless of what those Byzantium fanboys say!

Support Dnote and the right person will win first place.
 

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Support Dnote and the right person will win first place.
As long as "the right person" is the person making things the most entertaining for us viewers, I'm good with that :D
 

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To what end? Hope they bludgeon each other so much that my OPM+ can take ONE on?

La Suède meurt et ne se rend pas!

There lies the problem for Sweden, it lacks ambition! Why take on one whilst they are killing each other when you can destroy both.

How the piglets will squeal when Sweden burns Rome down, all three of them.

I did not notice last session but is the Mamluks playerless now?
 

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I have two requests regarding the Dev Clash videos:

1. Bring back those intros, keeping us updated about the players and their current strength.
2. Why are the dev clash sessions separated into 3 files on YouTube, all uploaded together but only published by several days?

When I missed a stream I don't want to wait days till I can see the next 40 minutes. And then more for the rest. It especially makes no sense as the same session is available on Twitch in one file straight away.
 

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I have two requests regarding the Dev Clash videos:

1. Bring back those intros, keeping us updated about the players and their current strength.
2. Why are the dev clash sessions separated into 3 files on YouTube, all uploaded together but only published by several days?

When I missed a stream I don't want to wait days till I can see the next 40 minutes. And then more for the rest. It especially makes no sense as the same session is available on Twitch in one file straight away.

Blonde is on vacation, no doubt once he comes back the intro will be updated.
 

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2. Why are the dev clash sessions separated into 3 files on YouTube, all uploaded together but only published by several days?

Answering on Blondies behalf here but because that makes Youtube happy and helps our channel grow. As you say, the whole thingie is available on twitch as well for all that prefers that.
 

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Answering on Blondies behalf here but because that makes Youtube happy and helps our channel grow. As you say, the whole thingie is available on twitch as well for all that prefers that.

Well, the priority should be to make the customers and viewers happy though.
I prefer YT because that runs on my preferred software on my streaming dongle. This choice shouldn't force me to consume a session spread over a week, with the resulting spoilers via Twitter etc. Just let me view it how I want and when I want.
 

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Probably, these are the potential trophy countries, if we exclude those who relocated and have halved score.
  1. Byzantium 4346 (+3.40)
  2. Austria 4063 (+3.50)
  3. Great Britain 3946 (+3.09)
  4. Hungary 2053 (+1.56)
  5. Persia 1255 (+1.46)
  6. Portugal 494 (+1.04)
  7. Bohemia 257 (+0.00)
  8. The Papal State 131 (+0.00)
  9. Aragon 54 (+0.00)
  10. Holland 43 (+0.00)
Knocking GB down below Hungary seems almost impossible, if we also assume that Hungary will die horribly when Austria and Byzantium finally go to war.

The question is, who will come first, I certainly know who I don't want it to be ;)
BjörnB shouldn't be counted out fully, halving his score still makes 1696 (+1.05) and a good shot at top5 at least. His VCs will of course be worse than those of non-relocated players, but with Chinese aid he can likely secure most or all of them.