Am i the only one who sees the missed opportunity in putting Katz not into Kazan. Katzan would be great! Hopefully we get Catzalonia 2.0!
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So that was an interesting session. QQ and Mamlukes hold a line against the Byz in the east, I think he has run out of most expansion and at this point any he does puts him into contention with some group. France getting pulled into a coalition war, that could end up being bad, and he should be glad that he has the long truce or burgundy could be resurgent.
So big questions for session 2, does the triple alliance hold firm, and if so do any other major alliances stick it out? Starnan seems to have several players in a virtual vassal position (Papal states and Bohemia).
Also France allying with Holland, that seems to be a way to eat into the HRE without pulling in Austria and Starnan, can he allow this to stand?
Also the five that have divided Muscovy, what do they do now that their mutual target has been destroyed? Do they turn on each other?
So big questions for session 2, does the triple alliance hold firm, and if so do any other major alliances stick it out? Starnan seems to have several players in a virtual vassal position (Papal states and Bohemia).
Also France allying with Holland, that seems to be a way to eat into the HRE without pulling in Austria and Starnan, can he allow this to stand?
Also the five that have divided Muscovy, what do they do now that their mutual target has been destroyed? Do they turn on each other?
If we're going for real good puns, they should play a game where everyone plays as a releasable nation, and Katz can actually have Catalonia.
Week 1 - Episode 1
I think you overlook the fact that a lot of players are in their very first MP and might be severely lacking in MP experience, not to mention lack of experience with the intricate complexity of in-house diplomacy
Your mission to prevent Blurple might have failed, but your spirit lives on:
Pretty aggressive move by Bratyn against Carsten, actually. I wonder how the diplomatic situation between them and Denmark will develop next session.
Amazing first session full of laughs! Poor Venice, slayed by StarNan, is this the new player slayer?
Well.
Was it foreshadowing or self-fulfilling prophecy?
No, it's not just Bratyn's fault^^
Am interested to see how the new world will be divvied up. Will Katz and Z be happy to slum it in south america whilst the french and english take all that sweet mexican clay and trade for themselves or will they come to blows over it? Also interested to see if the atlantic hug box are looking to make holland a long term ally and power, or they are just building him up to isolate him later on and take his land. All in all, excellent session. (Late addition of Bratyn was very nice)
I'm a lot more disappointed (disgusted even) by experienced players in great powers forming alliances with other experienced players in great powers than by newcomers doing very little.
In fact, it seems the newbies are forced into this situation because none of the old gang seems willing to ally them, and end up just getting eating. All in all, not very honourable or fair, I feel.
my my , i wasn't expecting that many people dying from the get go.
and two coalition wars.
special mention to the Groog who got one, for breaking a truce and reverting to OPM in the first five years
and two coalition wars.
special mention to the Groog who got one, for breaking a truce and reverting to OPM in the first five years
Can we have Groogys side of why the truce break was necessary? Know it was mentioned in stream that it was because bohemia was being a dick, but in what way?
Bohemia allied Pommerania. I'm guessing Groogy was allied to Mecklenburg who was also allied to pommerania and decided to break his alliance with mecklenburg, dow mecklenburg during the truce, eat the coalition, immediately surrender to the coalition then defeat pommerania and mecklenburg in the war.
What he forgot was the 12 month grace period when you cant surrender unconditionally. So the coalition roflstomped his army leaving pommerania and mecklenburg to occupy his lands and take most of them.
Like BjornB said, this is the first Dev MP for 10 out of 24 players, and some of them are relatively green with the game too (surprisingly, having the Three Mountains achievement is not a requirement to be hired by Paradox). As most knows, an MP is very different from SP, and that goes double for Dev MP.
When Katz rolled Castile, I was kind of hoping him to tag switch/release into Catalonia, but alas no
I was talking to Katz before he rolled and he said his ideal roll would be Portugal with a nice Castile he could make an alliance with. Someone like Zeke. And then the opposite happened.
THIS JUST IN: Infamous villain on the loose!
I agree this is very unfortunate. Baptism of fire indeed.
The solution? Get shipped to the ROTW, brood and gather your strength... and then show the Old Guard the meaning of TOTAL WAR!!
2. I respectfully disagree, I think Jake nailed it when he pointed out that they now have victory cards on each other and Trin just strengthened his enemy. This realization will eventually come down the pike, and it will be sooner then latter...
3. Bratyn is a tallented player but he is no match for scandanavia right now... Lithuania and Poland are both dead, they just dont know it yet... The real question is will Lithuania and Poland stand firmly with Bratyn when scandanavia comes marching on there door?!? OR will scandanivia be happy to only munch on lithuania and poland and leave Bratyn be?!?
4) I love see Byzantium on the map but it was at a huge cost, the K. Johan made himself significantly weaker in doing so. However It does look like he has a firm ally in Hungry. I foresee the Pope, Bohemia, Aragon banding behind StarNaN too fight K Johan and Hungry... (And what factor will Fido's return play on all of this next week?!?)
Honestly the Mamaluks and QQ are looking very pretty for finishing this thing as the top dogs... I do like the scandanavian alliance for being a contender too the end aswell... But the Favorites Trin Johan and Katz are going to cut each others throats... And StarNaN and K Johan will keep each other from becoming a factor leave the Mamaluks and QQ to grow quitely and Scandanavia to also grow, with a little more effort right thru Bratyn and Bjorn....
Really???
I love watching Groogy but that outcome was nearly a garuntee... He needs a quiet little corner off on the edge of the world to do his roleplay in, he simply doesnt have the required skill set to make that type of start work... But give him and Oman and he will turn it some strange religion become a trading giant and (insert something strange) that doesnt have much relavance on the game.... But he'll make it and then he will limit his growth instead of trying to win, making you at home watching and rooting for him just curl your toes and bang your head against the wall....
One factor is we have three players that will be getting new counties likely around the edges so they can provide an impact on edge players like QQ, mamlukes and kazan.
I would be surprised to see England and France make any attempt at the new world... Katz will eventually go there I am sure... but he will be happy to take whatever Portugal leaves for him... Portugal is going to have a huge advantage over every other country not just because he is portugal but because its MP and colonization is not going to be high on the priority list...
However the LetterZ is well known as a passive friendly go who tends to play single player so portugal is perfect for him... And I dont see Katz messing with him as he is a natural ally... They both know its in there best interests to be friends.... You can just bet that the LetterZ is praying that Katz and Trin play nice as long as possible....
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