Eu4 + Ck2= True

[Chlodio]

I have been inspirate by the tv-programe The Tudors!

Why would anyone be inspired by that show? Casting is awful all scenes are dull, its successor the Borgias did far better with only three seasons.

About EU4+CK2, a game with simplified character mechanics already exists, but suggesting that it would be DLC is ludicrous.

 

[Grubnessul]

There is something like ck1 + eu3, and its called Europa Universalis: Rome (More EU than CK tho)

Its actually pretty fun, but with some bugs on it

Or we keep them as separate games that play to their own strengths. Two good things are not always good together.

EU:Rome 2 confirmed.

 

[Lord_P]

EU4, but more like CK2!:

• The Hordes always take over the Ottomans
• Every European country has an heir with a weak claim (bastards)
• Game mechanics will always be broken by DLC
• The HRE tag will always form
• France tag will be absorbed into HRE tag by 1600
• Westernization and horde reformation will make your country weaker, not stronger
• No rebels will ever win
• At game end the world will be divided between 5 blobs
• There will be a strait from Ireland to Iceland to Greenland because there is no naval AI

 

[Will Steel]

A CK game set in 17th century sounds awesome though. NOT EU, but CK game.

Or better still, create EU-Rome 2.

 

[Darkath]

Or we keep them as separate games that play to their own strengths. Two good things are not always good together.

You should try this new dish i created, oysters dipped in chocolate.

A delicacy for sure.

 

[steveh11]

Beefing up the roleplay aspect could be interesting, but EU4 <> CK2 - and that's a GOOD thing.

 

[Friedrich von Deutschland]

I would love it if there was a very basic system with marriages and personal diplomacy but going full CK2 is just overkill. Those aforementioned eliments were a huge part of this era and need to be simulated however there aren't any other CK2 eliments which should even be on the table for proposed EU mechanics.

 

[JagLover]

I haven’t played CK but clearly it is a very different game to EU and a very different time period so you cannot simply combine the two.
That said I find two aspects of EU to be both bad game play and ahistorical.

First of all the fact you are simply “presented” with an heir and their random stats determine virtually everything important in the game from technological progress to development to expansion. I have just been reading two biographies in 18th century Russia and the Tsars, actually had the right to appoint their own successors in that time period. Incompetents, or 1/0/1 in EU terms, might be liable to imprisonment at best, beating to death at worst. Before that time heirs needed to be approved by a council and the eldest brother could be set aside for the younger if the elder were impaired in anyway.

I’m sure many other countries would have had something similar so would not necessarily need to accept their 0/0/0 in the whole of the game period.

Secondly the process of getting and training a heir was something a number of rulers took a great deal of care over, which again makes a random number generator determined at birth unrealistic.

 

[grisamentum]

Or we keep them as separate games that play to their own strengths. Two good things are not always good together.

This would be a good response except that EU4's relative lack of characters is a weakness, not a strength. "Better explanation of heirs" and "Dynastic DLC" and "more realistic PUs" has been a feature request from day 1. Nobody was really expecting a full CK2+EU4, but just having a basic family tree for each dynasty would be a good start.

 

[Metz]

Or we keep them as separate games that play to their own strengths. Two good things are not always good together.

What about a simple family tree like in Rome Total War (the first one from 2004) where you could see who will inherit and who marries who. That way you are forced to limit your royal marriages and it is more strategical. Also imported portraits from CK2 for the monarch and his heirs.

 

[Soranya]

There is something like ck1 + eu3, and its called Europa Universalis: Rome (More EU than CK tho)

Its actually pretty fun, but with some bugs on it

Memory leak makes it almost impossible to play in later stages of a campaign (as in crashes every dozens of minutes).

 

[melkor88]

I think the games are both amazing, but it really doesn't make sense to combine them. You can always use mods which may be able to do some of the things you want

 

[Slvrbuu]

I would also like to see a basic family dynastic tree with interactions. They were still important in that time. Like EU:Rome. Alternatively, announce EU Rome 2, that would also be great.

 

[Rain Envy]

Paradox should make a new game or a dlc that combinate eu4 with crusader kings 2! I really miss the personality in the rulers like in ck2. It had been so much more fun If You have a picture on the ruler and can do things and action with your ruler like in ck2. Choose your own wife and choose a desteny for your children and manage the govourment etc. Please create a crusader kings beetween years 1444-1889! I have been inspirate by the tv-programe The Tudors!

I think you mean EU4 + Victoria 2?

Or rather EU4 + POPS + Economy.