EU3 versus EU4: Things you miss (and things you don't)

[AureliusBob]

I miss the randomness and replayability of EU3...I don't know what it is about EU4, but I play one country and I never want to play it again because the first 50 years is essentially going to be the same strategy due to the strengths of NI's lining up with certain idea groups and missions. I mean you don't have to take Exploration as Portugal, Trade as Hansa, or Influence as Austria, but they are too hard to pass up given each respective countries situation and overall strategy.

Also, was England as bad in EU3 as it is in EU4? England/UK seems to be paradox's weak point, they can never get them quite right in any game

 

[PeterCorless]

No, England wasn't as anemic. If I were Paradox, I'd entirely punt the Lollards as a strong revolt force, as Oldcastle's plots were far before the EUIV period, c. 1414 - 1417. At most, Oldcastle was able to muster somewhere between 300 - 800 troops -- a single understrength regiment in the game. Thereafter, they were never much of a threat to the crown.

Whereas I've seen stacks of tens of thousands of Lollards. Utterly unhistorical. Utterly debilitating to England in the teeth of the HYW.

That's the sort of nonsense that makes the game feel utterly punitive, and gives the BBB even more of an ahistorical advantage against its rivals.

 

[ozonns]

The Golden Horde extending from the Adriatic to Denmark? Good times. Good times.

Yes yes, playing as Lithuania, GH was your greatest enemy, Muscowy was like.. meh.. food for GH, i shall eat as much as i can before horde does.. :happy:
Only thing that disappointed me in EU4, mostly hordes are the one who is feeding others, they(AI hordes) usually are eating each other and can't really do anything worth mentioning to non hordes. Exception would be Timurids, but only in latest patches and well, they start like a blob bordering other pathetic hordes and Indian minorities.. :huh:

 

[Sol717]

Core times taking 50 years (although OE in Eu3 was a joke so it wasn't a big deal)

EU3's coring is more realistic, but worse for gameplay (As in general with Eu3).
However, AoW will bring one big advantage for EU4: a much more realistic Asia and Africa (and hopefully the Americas).

 

[TheCardozo]

I agree with those who mention how random and more "unscripted" (for want of a better phrase) EUIII felt compared to EUIV.

 

[Musthavename]

I miss not having a points based system, especially in tech (EU3's tech mechanism was bad... just not as bad as EU4).

And I miss EU3's coring system.

 

[Rex Chroatorvm]

I miss dem sliders.

 

[Beagá]

Meh sliders are overrated. Slides are much more fun.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[hitchens]

I miss dem sliders.

+1


I also miss how inflation worked in EU3. Inflation in EU4 is rubbish.

 

[WeissRaben]

+1


I also miss how inflation worked in EU3. Inflation in EU4 is rubbish.

They have decided to walk a thin line between "loans being useful" and "loans being damaging enough". They fell completely on the "useful" side, neglecting the damage. 20 loans are 2% inflation. Trifles.