Biggest pro of having a 3d engine is that it sells better with very good graphics. Hard core fans will buy anyway but you want to expand it to the rest as well to make more money and to do that you need to attract the more visualy intrested 
EU3 Pictures and Concept Art
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Sweet that guy has done some nice work. Does anyone know the system requirments for Diplomacy? I imagine EUIII will have better graphics but as I understand Diplomacy is 3D, I just want to know if my PC can even run that.
Toejam Football said:
- Windows® XP, Windows® ME, Windows® 2000, Windows® 98 2nd Edition (earlier Windows® and other operating systems are not supported).
- 1GHz Intel® Pentium® III or AMD Athlon™ processor (or equivalent)
- 256 MB RAM (512 MB or more recommended)
- CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive
- 1GB available hard drive space. Additional space is required for saved games and for Windows® DirectX™ installation (if required) and swap file usage.
- 32MB video card capable of a minimum screen resolution of 1024 x 768 and with support for Vertex Shader 3.0 and T&L (Transform and Lighting).
- DirectX 9.x compatible sound card
- Keyboard and mouse
- An internet connection is required for multiplayer game modes
I like the Meso-American musket man concept, but there's something about cloth armor and a steel helmet that just don't seem to go together. :wacko:
Any idea as to when we can expect to see more concept art/complete models? How many sets of art are there going to be? We've seen Arabic, Western European, Aztec, African, Eastern European, and Asian, are there any I've missed?
Any idea as to when we can expect to see more concept art/complete models? How many sets of art are there going to be? We've seen Arabic, Western European, Aztec, African, Eastern European, and Asian, are there any I've missed?
Grosshaus said:
3 things:
1) I have CIV4, played couple of games and already gave up. Miss CIV2. I am not judging before try myself.
2) My comp is a PIV 3.06 with 1GB RAM.... Not an old decade. However I like that the game be as faster as possible. EU2 rocks in that term.
3) Pretty inteface is not what I am seeking when buying a strategic game.
However I do hope Johan will find someway to not make the "new engine" accomplish what the old EU2 community wants.
Civ4 is probably one of the worst eamples of coding. It's a glorified 2d game for Gnus sake. And yet it's hard on the ol' hardware, especially when you play the "bigger" maps.
More sloppy coding is hard to find (in games, in applications you don't have to look long, just take a look at MSWord).
More sloppy coding is hard to find (in games, in applications you don't have to look long, just take a look at MSWord).
Casluerj said:
Mine is the same, but with less RAM. Runs perfectly fine after installing the first patch.
Neither do I. But I don´t consider as something negative either and when it´s done with such professionalism as with CivIV or M:TW, then it adds to the gameplay experience.
About the pictures: I hope there will be musketed and rifled versions of non-Europeans, especially the Aztez-looking guy seems like it would look great with more modern weaponry.
Casluerj said:
I can only agree on this! new engine means new bugs etc... old engine is nothing less then perfect and it would be pity if too radical change will be made.
You can't improve perfect - and EU2 is perfect. However you can expand it with new options and possibilities but my biggest fear is that EU3 won't be as playable as EU2.
EU2 is far from perfect (although it is the greatest classic Paradox has made yet and kept me occupied for years). The event system is too rigid and deterministic, the tech system is too linear, it is very un-dynamic in several areas, et.c...Nabukodonosor said:
I'm also a bit of a 2D addict, but properly optimized 3D shouldn't cause too many problems.
On that note, I'd trust that Paradox has learned how to handle both the advantages and disadvantages of such a kind of engine from their previous efforts at 3D (mainly Diplomacy, which I've heard still had a few quirks here and there, though I personally wouldn't know for sure).
On that note, I'd trust that Paradox has learned how to handle both the advantages and disadvantages of such a kind of engine from their previous efforts at 3D (mainly Diplomacy, which I've heard still had a few quirks here and there, though I personally wouldn't know for sure).
My life wont have a meaning until EU3 is out...
Okey, doomsday might keep me busy until EU3 is out
Okey, doomsday might keep me busy until EU3 is out
That would be cool zoom in on a province to see the improvements), but it took enough resources with CivIV. I doubt their is a computer marketed to home users that could run that sort of thing in an EU style game.angryclown said:
They've attracted alot of criticism in the past for using the same engine with minor modifications. A 3D game gets more sales these days then a 2D game on the same subject matter, even if the 2D one is better.Casluerj said:
CIV4's problem was a massive memory leak. I'm sure you could find a programmer who could write a version of pong with a massive memory leak that would eventually become unplayable.
Yes, but in order for a company to grow they need to try new things. If their game making stagnates, the company stagnates, investors pull out (they aren't making money), and the company goes under.
I don't know if the game with the 3D engine will be any good, but businesswise, it is a good decision.
It runs fine in the beginning. But civ 4 starts to slow down a lot after 4 hours and 8 players...
Most likely. This seems to be his official webpage. (I posted the link a couple of hours ago aswell.Gaute65 said:
I'm happy with the move to 3D. Seeing the terrain with actual forests and elevated terrain will be a lot more immersive than colored provinces.
That having been said, it's inevitable that it will be quite a bit harder on players' computers. Since everything will be 3D having more army representations on the screen will slow things down. With 2D you can essentially have as many sprites as you want without much cost but with 3D all of them require more processing power from the video card. Buildings are the same way - without some good LOD (Level of Detail) implimentation zooming out to see all of Europe will be bad news. I'm anxious to see what Paradox comes up with.
That having been said, it's inevitable that it will be quite a bit harder on players' computers. Since everything will be 3D having more army representations on the screen will slow things down. With 2D you can essentially have as many sprites as you want without much cost but with 3D all of them require more processing power from the video card. Buildings are the same way - without some good LOD (Level of Detail) implimentation zooming out to see all of Europe will be bad news. I'm anxious to see what Paradox comes up with.
Marvilous! Wunderschön! Amazing! This is going to be worth every penny I have to spend on it, and every GB it will take up!