EU3 Manual?

[Merlact]

I read somewhere (can't remember where ) that Paradox have chosen not to go down the expensive route of copy protection for their games but instead give 'added value' in terms of 'colour manuals' and 'tech tree charts' etc.

Does this mean the EU3 manual will actually be useful this time around (I mean more useful than proping-up that dodgy table leg!), or is this just marketing speak for 'we cant afford the copy protection so we dont bother'?

I appreciate the cost of such things, things which probably dont influence anyone to buy or not to buy a game and I agree that we can get around the lack of a manual by coming here to the rich Paradox forums, but never the less manuals do add 'value' to the package, they're a way for the developers to bring you into the feel and atmosphere of the game, it sort of rounds off the package, no?

 

[Registered]

The HOI2 manual was quite usefull. Although, unfortunately, there were misprints with the early copies (anyone want to buy one? ).

Oh and the lack of copy protection is a good thing, means we can play without having to put the CD in the drive every time.
Besides it's not as if that protection ever helps.

 

[Merlact]

I agree, I cant be arsed swapping discs all the time either and I think Paradox games are not the sort to be mass copied anyway.

And your right, the sort of people who want to copy them are the sort of people who can bypass the protection anyway so it is a waste of money in the end.

 

[SirGrotius]

My vote is for Mr. T to write the manual. Also, charts and graphs make me salivate.

 

[unmerged(11600)]

I agree, I cant be arsed swapping discs all the time either and I think Paradox games are not the sort to be mass copied anyway.

What, you mean there are other CDs to go in there?

-Pat

 

[Merlact]

Vicky of course!

 

[unmerged(17489)]

I wouldnt be surprised if it was like Diplomacy that you have to register your CD-key to get access to the forums, the patches, the mods and whatnot.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

I wouldnt be surprised if it was like Diplomacy that you have to register your CD-key to get access to the forums, the patches, the mods and whatnot.

If I was Paradox I would only allow people who have bought Diplomacy, acces to the patches and mods of EUIII


But the latest manuals from Paradox (Diplomacy, HoI2 and Doomsday) were all very good, only most players are just not into reading manuals, they wanna play. I do that to, but then I don't say that the manual is bad.

 

[Registered]

I wouldnt be surprised if it was like Diplomacy that you have to register your CD-key to get access to the forums, the patches, the mods and whatnot.

Fine with me as long as it works first time round.

 

[Merlact]

If I was Paradox I would only allow people who have bought Diplomacy, acces to the patches and mods of EUIII

That would mean just you getting personal updates from Johan! :rofl:

 

[Merlact]

...most players are just not into reading manuals, they wanna play. I do that to, but then I don't say that the manual is bad.

If people want a manual they should buy the boxed game and for those who don't they should just download from gamersgate, that way Paradox need only produce manuals for those who really want one instead of wasting money on manuals some people will never look at. They can of course include a PDF manual in the download aswell though.

 

[Haukionkala]

I wouldnt be surprised if it was like Diplomacy that you have to register your CD-key to get access to the forums, the patches, the mods and whatnot.

That wouldn't bother me otherwise, but it is a bad idea to not let people who haven't bought the game yet to see the forums. That way potential customers can't really see what the game is like, what mods are in works etc which all affect the buying decision. In my opinion, this is one of the reasons why Diplomacy didn't do that well.

 

[unmerged(17489)]

That wouldn't bother me otherwise, but it is a bad idea to not let people who haven't bought the game yet to see the forums. That way potential customers can't really see what the game is like, what mods are in works etc which all affect the buying decision. In my opinion, this is one of the reasons why Diplomacy didn't do that well.

The GD is open for everyone, and the AAR forum can be read by anyone

 

[Ciçatrix]

and the AAR forum can be read by anyone

And posted in too, now.

 

[Brownbeard]

i think paradox copy protection works better than most if not all other copy protection systems out there. customer and client capital combined with added value are a winner.

and i definitively want a printed manual, no maps, no posters, just a book-type manual. 60 page minimum, peferably 120.

 

[Grosshaus]

One thing about printed manuals is their incompatibility with games downloaded from on-line stores such as the new shop Paradox created. If you want to create added value to legit download customers, then you need to provide other extra services than a proper printed manual for them. Or sell at a appropriately lower price.

 

[SirGrotius]

If I was Paradox I would only allow people who have bought Diplomacy, acces to the patches and mods of EUIII

I second that suggestion. I'd also point out that it there is not just tongue in cheek--from the screen shots I've seen of EUIII, the graphics system looks identical to Diplomacy. We can provide first-hand input into related mechanisms.

 

[unmerged(17489)]

If I was Paradox I would only allow people who have bought Diplomacy, acces to the patches and mods of EUIII

That'd save the pirates money, as they could buy Diplomacy cheap and then download EU3 and play it with patches and everything.