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I say no to records gained using that exploit!!!!
and what that will that lead to?
 

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I say no to records gained using that exploit!!!!
and what that will that lead to?
No I completely disagree. He didn't use cheats, he used exploits. Most of these records were the result of exploits, removing this exploit now is dumb and limiting to the game. This thread is supposed to push the game to the fullest and surya is doing it.
 

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No I completely disagree. He didn't use cheats, he used exploits. Most of these records were the result of exploits, removing this exploit now is dumb and limiting to the game. This thread is supposed to push the game to the fullest and surya is doing it.

In that case, nobody will ever want to play a Catholic country again!

how did you get 100 naval tradition? i assume you dont have qftnw

Cacra, If that question was aimed at me, I got QFTNW by the early 1420's, hired an explorer then swapped it out again. It's completely impossible to get 100 naval tradition without it.
 
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how did you get 100 naval tradition? i assume you dont have qftnw
I have 12 NIs two of which are qftnw and colonial ventures for explorers
In that case, nobody will ever want to play a Catholic country again!
No Catholic countries have much better units than ottoman units and France can collapse easily .So it can also be done with France.
Should that trick be allowed? IMO it defeats half the purpose because like surya people can just bruteforce their way towards the goal with infinite cash and instamaxed techs.
For your information I went bankrupt many times throughout the game
 

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Would it be reasonable to compromise by adding a requirement that WCs also include being fully westernized? Without the trick, that's probably a near-necessary step anyway - and it's pretty hard to fulfil all westernization requirements if maxing tech by 1400ish. Sure, it's probably doable to conquer the world while in a worse group, but it shouldn't be a huge hassle to add that step anyway as tech speed of early giga-empires tend to be very slow.
 

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how the hell did he conquer the world so fast ... even with lv 70 troops doing it in like 30 years ... not counting all the hordes to colonize and the maount of magistrates needed , and the very low infamy at the and.
 

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how the hell did he conquer the world so fast ... even with lv 70 troops doing it in like 30 years ... not counting all the hordes to colonize and the maount of magistrates needed , and the very low infamy at the and.

He obviously collapsed into a horde like the previous Ottoman WC record holder.
 

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Would it be reasonable to compromise by adding a requirement that WCs also include being fully westernized? Without the trick, that's probably a near-necessary step anyway - and it's pretty hard to fulfil all westernization requirements if maxing tech by 1400ish. Sure, it's probably doable to conquer the world while in a worse group, but it shouldn't be a huge hassle to add that step anyway as tech speed of early giga-empires tend to be very slow.
The WC alexti did which was roughly 50 years was done by the Ottomans in Ottoman tech (it was done without getting max tech).
And also adding restrictions to this is stupid, seeing as almost all these records were used with 'tricks' that are more or less gamey.
 

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The WC alexti did which was roughly 50 years was done by the Ottomans in Ottoman tech (it was done without getting max tech).
And also adding restrictions to this is stupid, seeing as almost all these records were used with 'tricks' that are more or less gamey.
So what about records with no gamey tricks?