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I assume he constantly took loans to make money, gave up the money in a war, bankrupt himself, took more loans, gave that up in a war, etc.. and then just took it back from whoever he gave the money to, and invested it into tech.
Yeah, I'm going to post it in a couple of days
To give some time for educated guesses - there's a clue in screenshot I'm curious what was King's method myself. By the symptoms it was probably different from mine. I also know another method, which is probably even faster, but again I don't think it's the same as King's.
Hmm, he also pumped Land, Naval, and Government a bit so maybe some help from buildings or NIs?
BTW, anyone want to try a fastest to max tech in all 5 areas?
BTW, anyone want to try a fastest to max tech in all 5 areas?
Maybe it has something to do with extorting money from (probably) South American countries (I can't remember what countries the flags belong to). You can see on the right side that he's at war with a bunch of people.
I think it's obvious, seeing his bankrupt, with bankrupcy modifire...
Now, i am sure, that in multiplayer, doing this, would be riddicoulously easy. LT 18 at 1466? Naval 20, Gov 17?
Production tech only 8. But seeing he got land tech 18, he practicaly won the game, as he could defeat any country, with building very small army.
I realy want to see someone doing this in multiplayer.
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There are several things that I can't quite get my head round in that picture.
21k manpower and the wars with the American natives (among other things) suggests you have overseas provinces, but 0 infamy/no colonies means you don't have many/they were obtained a while ago.
The massive interest and bankruptcy supports the take loans/invest/bankrupt strategy, but I don't understand how the loans are massive enough for you to have 178k cash (note that bankruptcy requires negative cash).
21k manpower and the wars with the American natives (among other things) suggests you have overseas provinces, but 0 infamy/no colonies means you don't have many/they were obtained a while ago.
The massive interest and bankruptcy supports the take loans/invest/bankrupt strategy, but I don't understand how the loans are massive enough for you to have 178k cash (note that bankruptcy requires negative cash).
Well, you can get event that increase the number of money you get from loans. Also, i have a feeling it may have something to do with loan interest... but i am not sure about it. High enough positive cash can turn negative, because game engine, so maybe low enough cash, can turn positive?
Looks like bankruptcy abuse, paying huge amounts of money to natives then constantly taking native provinces and then selling them back.
Not the same way King did it, incidentally.
Not the same way King did it, incidentally.
overseas provinces are worth next to nothing for manpower , so there's another thing ... but it is crazy enough xD
So far no correct guesses Here's a bigger clue:
- very industrious native americans.
Here's a bigger clue:
- very industrious native americans.
How about a record for greatest number of modifiers? I'll start off with a probably easy to beat record of 49:
You constantly occupied those provinces with manufactories, giving you the investment bonuses but not the actual penalties that come with owning provinces (increases in research costs)? It does look that way, but I'm not sure whether that alone would be sufficient to maximize one tech in just 67 years.So far no correct guesses
Smart find though
How did the Native Americans even get Manufactories? The AI usually doesn't ever westernize.
On the other hand, that would mean that the province of Huron should have a manufactory. The same is true of Onondaga. I don't think he annexed them at any point. Maybe built the manufactories and then allowed them to be seized back?
That's almost correct. Except that the investment bonus is a small change - what I was after is 2.5% exchange rate boost
Here is how I did it. Started normally - establish trade, get to Trade 7, establish trade in Asia, then set everything up for the loan size event and wait (while researching towards Gov 10). Event has fired for me around 1436, so at that point I've taken loans and bought some research (by going bankrupt repeatedly). I got Gov 16 for university, trade 15 for refineries, naval 20 for decision and some land to make fighting easier (when bankrupt). My trade did take a bit of a hit due to -100 prestige, but after enacting decisions (that give compete bonus) I've repaired the damage. After that I was taking over native americans, building refineries and selling provinces back. With enough refineries (which I would later occupy) I got pretty good investment conversion rate (way above 1), so that I could buy trade tech all the way by going bankrupt repeatedly gain.
Btw, there's no secret to manpower - I was suffering from lack of it, so I've built military buildings, march and took national conscripts.