I was watching a documentary today on the Norman conquest of England and i got to thinking. EU3 would be a brilliant game for that time period, is there a paradox game like EU3 set in that time zone or a mod or anything?
EU3- Dark and Early Middle Ages
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There is a Dark Ages mod, in the user mod subforum. I haven't tried it, so I don't know how good it is.
Well, Crusader Kings starts about the same time as the Norman invasion. CKII coming early next year.
1. Rome
2. Crusader Kings
3. Europa Universalis
4. Victoria
5. Hearts of Iron
All are very similar but in a way completely different games. You are probably looking for Crusader Kings. Don´t forget to get the expansion "Deus Vult".
2. Crusader Kings
3. Europa Universalis
4. Victoria
5. Hearts of Iron
All are very similar but in a way completely different games. You are probably looking for Crusader Kings. Don´t forget to get the expansion "Deus Vult".
For further clarification, Crusader Kings begins at 1066, the year of William the Conquerer's conquest of England.
It's a game that focuses on dynasties and royal marriages, the papacy, the crusades/reconquista (obviously). In this game you play as any European lord, from a count to a King. It's a great game but is a sort of transition from the earlier Paradox games (EU2, Vicky) to the 'modern' Paradox games (EU3, Vicky2). If you have a few bucks it's definitely worth it, hours of enjoyment to be found in Crusader Kings as long as you don't mind playing a game with slightly dated graphics, but the great mechanics and situations as you'd expect.
It's a game that focuses on dynasties and royal marriages, the papacy, the crusades/reconquista (obviously). In this game you play as any European lord, from a count to a King. It's a great game but is a sort of transition from the earlier Paradox games (EU2, Vicky) to the 'modern' Paradox games (EU3, Vicky2). If you have a few bucks it's definitely worth it, hours of enjoyment to be found in Crusader Kings as long as you don't mind playing a game with slightly dated graphics, but the great mechanics and situations as you'd expect.
I'm waiting for CKII like a lot of others, but I'd really like to see a "new" EU-type game set from about 1100 to 1500. Or 1200 to 1600.
EU3 doesn't model very well the rapid changes that occurred in the second half of the games' timespan.
EU3 doesn't model very well the rapid changes that occurred in the second half of the games' timespan.
Crusader Kings II should be what you're looking for - released in 2012.
If you can't wait that long, Crusader Kings will fill the gap, but it can feel slightly dated.
If you can't wait that long, Crusader Kings will fill the gap, but it can feel slightly dated.
Because so many people flock to the Grand Campaign, then whine about it so Paradox keeps focusing on goddamn 1399 in a game supposedly about the 1500-1800 period.
No OP, there is no Paradox game covering the Early Middle Ages. As noted above, they do have a game from 1066 onwards, but that is the High Middle Ages. The Early Middle Ages were an entirely different kettle of vikings.
i don't mind dated, i'm still playing Victoria 1 and M&B Warband, is Crusader Kings on Steam?
Agree with the Deus Vult comment - it's probably the most significant expansion in any game I have ever played.
As the complete version is on sale my Question: Is it worth? Or playing EU3 is much more fun? Just some commends...don't trust those commends on pages selling the product 
I'll see your DV and raise you Doomsday, or possible IN!
CK is a good fun game. They gave it away for free a couple of months ago which has breathed a bit of life back into the community.
Sadly though, there is no Dark Ages paradox game (about, say, AD 500-1000). And I believe that should change.
Yeeeeeeeeess.
I want the birth of Islam. I want the Carolingan empire. I want the Byzanto-Persian wars and the English invasion of Britain. I want Visigothic Spain and the Kingdom of Lombardia. I want to see a world where there are still Christians in North Africa, pagans in Europe and Mazdaists in Persia. I want to see the Eastern Roman Empire at its peak.
By 1066, modern Europe was already taking shape. I want to play in a world where it's still in flux.
And Great Invasions is a bit pants. ;__;
EU3 would do a much worse job of modeling the 12th and 13th centuries than it currently does modeling the 16th, 17, and 18th centuries. EU3 is a very state centric game which puts little emphasis on individuals. It's appropriate for it to be a game set during the decline of the traditional Euro-feudalistic system. In EU3, you are the state and your state can really only conquer others due to how bad the vassalage system is (a consquence of the lack of emphasis on individuals). The 12th and 13th centuries are likely best left to Crusader Kings which is the opposite of EU3 in style. It puts all emphasis on characters and pays very little attention to the "state" which only exists as a title and tool for an individual character to exhert his personal hegemony over vassals.
Which represents history i suppose, the King had very little power in those times, i mean Edward I struggled to control his barons and had to jump hoops just to get funds for wars and that's hardly the dark ages. I mean if you look at the Normans, they where a duchy of France who ran an entire other country in thier own name and not the name of France or the King.
I think Paradox could do a dark ages game but it'd need to be it's own series i think. However i would buy it and play the **** out of it
This. I would like to play some period from after the Rome desintegrates, to go a way from a barbarian tripe to a early form of feudal nation. Plus the early conquests of Islam from Iberia to Persian gulf. Much fun.
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