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Marlec

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I've always wondered why you can't form closer diplomatic ties with other nations, such as defence League or confederation. Is that impossible to mod, and would the game be to boring? I wish one
could vote upon starting wars if an ally wishes to do so. I hate being dragged into wars that i don't want to fight. It could be cool if one member could be elected Leader/president of the confederacy,
and negotiate Peace on behalf of the other members, without them being able to make seperate Peace. But that's just one idea. The old Swiss confederacy could also be a model to imitate, with it's
tagzatzung. It had very limited powers, as you all know. But the cantons needed the aproval of the other nations to start a war, according to Wikipedia. The federal treaty of 1815 gave the union
a litte more powers, but the cantons were still fully Sovereign. I still want member nations to have their on color and flag on the map, since a confederation is an organisation, and not a state.

What do you Guys think? Is it just a fantasy of mine, that will never come true? i would love to hear your ideas and thoughts about the subject :)
 

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It would be great. Playing as Ottomans recently I had the Mamuluks in a PU. PUs are much better than vassals as they still carry on with their own aims. However the downside to this is that you end up inheriting them which means you suddenly own twice as much land and lose your valuble ally!

I would love to see an option that you could long term ally with an AI nation but allow them to carry on expanding and warring to their own desires.
 

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I've done this "informally" in several games, where I build up a couple of early alliances and then stick with them for several hundred years of mutual trials and tribulations ("They trust us utterly") until they inevitably end up with a random mission to attack me.

In my current game with HUN, I had Poland and Lithuania as allies for nearly the entire first hundred years, and Venice as a later partner, before Poland's newly crowned king immediately went ballistic and started attacking everyone, friend or foe. After Lithuania, Venice, and I took care of that problem (with the uninvited assistance of nearly half of the HRE), I brought Austria into the fold, and am about half-way through the 1500s with the new "quadruple threat", all gaining at everyone else's expense. I fully expect that at some point down the road, one of the other three will suddenly turn on the rest of the alliance, and get crushed like a proverbial bug underfoot. Meanwhile, it's mutually beneficial.
 

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I hope Paradox will consider it for eu5, since it's not ahistorical. Also, the North American federations is not federations in the truest sense. More like a confederate arrangement.